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pdog wrote:


FUCK HILLARY!
I see a Gore/Obama ticket...
Rudy/McCain ticket....
Ihope so, maybe we can begin to get some real change, debate and some effective leadership...

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pdog wrote:


FUCK HILLARY!
I see a Gore/Obama ticket...
Rudy/McCain ticket....
Ihope so, maybe we can begin to get some real change, debate and some effective leadership...

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jb wrote:


Do not vote republican if you seek real change. Also, as much as some would like it, Gore is not going to jump in..he has it too good now..the poster boy for the left, a star in Hollywood, and making a ton of cash. You may not like her, but please vote for Hillary , as she is the only candidate sensible enough to get us out of Iraq, face down the Iranians, and prevent the righties from further infringing on our civil liberties.

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monkey_man wrote:


Me thinks there will be a Clinton/Obama ticket vs. Rudy (McCain?)/Rice ticket. . . .

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pdog wrote:


Condi showed her Neo-con ignorance when comparing Iraq and Saddam to WWII and Hitler...

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pdog wrote:


Condi showed her Neo-con ignorance when comparing Iraq and Saddam to WWII and Hitler...

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Saint Sway wrote:
what???

Gore’s 20-room, eight-bathroom mansion consumes more energy than the average Americans 3 bedroom, 2 bath home.

shocking!

a little perspective please

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Riffhard wrote:
You libs can spin this shit any fucking way you want,but you are all still fucked when it comes to explaining this goddamned hypocrites' $30,000.00 a year power bill. Spin away fellas,but know this. I can drive whatever fucking car or SUV I want. I can run my AC for 24 hours a day seven days a week,and my "carbon footprint" is still 10 times smaller than this propagandist's is!! Spin that shit! His fucking electric bill is at least 8 times higher than mine is per year! Yet he wants to tell me how to live! Fuck him,and anyone that thinks like him!! John fucking Travolta is another big algore supporter,yet that fucker flys from LA to NY aboard his own private 707 airliner!! Babs Striesand was telling everyone on her website to hang their laundry on clothes line to conserve energy!!! You think that diva whore bitch has ever hung her fucking laundry out?!
That bitch has a chaffer driven mobil home that she uses to go shoping on Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills! That's a fact!


Algore is a liar and a hypocrite period! End of story! It would take my entire household ten years to consume the amount of energy that this fuck uses in one year,and I'm suppossed to conserve! Like I said fuck him!


Spin that shit.


Riffy

PS-This is not personally directed at anyone here in particular. Except for maybe the usual suspects. TRhey know who they are. Certainly they are not mm or pdog!
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Riffhard wrote:
You libs can spin this shit any fucking way you want,but you are all still fucked when it comes to explaining this goddamned hypocrites' $30,000.00 a year power bill. Spin away fellas,but know this. I can drive whatever fucking car or SUV I want. I can run my AC for 24 hours a day seven days a week,and my "carbon footprint" is still 10 times smaller than this propagandist's is!! Spin that shit! His fucking electric bill is at least 8 times higher than mine is per year! Yet he wants to tell me how to live! Fuck him,and anyone that thinks like him!! John fucking Travolta is another big algore supporter,yet that fucker flys from LA to NY aboard his own private 707 airliner!! Babs Striesand was telling everyone on her website to hang their laundry on clothes line to conserve energy!!! You think that diva whore bitch has ever hung her fucking laundry out?!
That bitch has a chaffer driven mobil home that she uses to go shoping on Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills! That's a fact!


Algore is a liar and a hypocrite period! End of story! It would take my entire household ten years to consume the amount of energy that this fuck uses in one year,and I'm suppossed to conserve! Like I said fuck him!


Spin that shit.


Riffy

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Fiji Joe wrote:

I think he's growing pot in there...

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AL Gore is a great American and has awakened a nation to the undisputed effects of greenhouse gases. Hypocrisy is lying about WMD's, outing a covert officer, attacking politicians who served by those too busy or who got deferments, sending our troops to war without adequate armor, and denying them meaningful health-care when they came home maimed. To suggest that Gore is a hypocrite because he lives in a large house, is about the same as calling Bush a hypocrite for getting the Bin Laden family outof the US right after 9/11. The right is angry, and I understand it very well. many on the right felt they could never lose another election, that Karl Rove and his dirty tricks would once again prevail.,Then, low and behold, the American public, never accused of being to smart, saw through Bush and his lies, and elected a majority of dems in both houses!!! The dream of a republican dynasty was shattered into pieces, and the righties still think it is just a bad dream. Off course they, along with faux News, need their bogeymen, so you have O'Reiley, Hannity, and Hume talking their marching orders from the RNC and attacking Murtha, lying about Pelosi's airplane request, still denying the greenhouse effect, and still supporting a war that has long since proven to be a disaster if biblical proportion. If you want to see hypocrisy, look at the relationship b/t the Bushies and the House of Saud...from Prescott Bush to W, their hands are drenched in oil blood. Gore has not told anyone how to live, he simply asked that a scientific fact be accepted, and that we do whatever small part we can to reduce greenhouse emissions. I suppose you righties think he should sell his house, or stop traveling by jet, etc...those are juvenile and immature arguments..the real issue is preventing large scale manufacturers from dumping their toxins in the air and accelerating what has been occurring for millions of years...The republican reign of terror is almost over, and like all defeated movements, it will get very ugly before it gets better. I would much rather be Al Gore and get accussed of being a hypocrite for using too much energy, than be a man like Bush, Cheney, Rumy et al, who have to look at themselves everyday knowing they sent our nations finest on a ill-planned mission without the basic necessities, and then abandoned these heros when they came home.

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Saint Sway wrote:
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rasputin56 wrote:
If his bill is 8x more a year, why would it take 10 years to equal 1 year?
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rasputin56 wrote:
If his bill is 8x more a year, why would it take 10 years to equal 1 year?
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Saint Sway wrote:
what???

Gore’s 20-room, eight-bathroom mansion consumes more energy than the average Americans 3 bedroom, 2 bath home.

shocking!



a little perspective please



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In rereading my post I realized that I had made that contradiction. So allow me to restate my position on that topic. At $30,000.00 a year that means that algore's power bill is actualy 60 times more a year that mine is. He averages well over $2,000.00 a month. That would pay for my bill for more than ten months. He's a hypocrite. Regardless of what jb is talking about. This is not about Iraq,or anything else. It's about this fat turd trying to tell me to conserve when he clearly out consumes 99% of the population.


Hope that clears my post up. Now please try and spin these facts. TIA!



Riffy

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AL Gore is a great American and has awakened a nation to the undisputed effects of greenhouse gases. Hypocrisy is lying about WMD's, outing a covert officer, attacking politicians who served by those too busy or who got deferments, sending our troops to war without adequate armor, and denying them meaningful health-care when they came home maimed. To suggest that Gore is a hypocrite because he lives in a large house, is about the same as calling Bush a hypocrite for getting the Bin Laden family outof the US right after 9/11. The right is angry, and I understand it very well. many on the right felt they could never lose another election, that Karl Rove and his dirty tricks would once again prevail.,Then, low and behold, the American public, never accused of being to smart, saw through Bush and his lies, and elected a majority of dems in both houses!!! The dream of a republican dynasty was shattered into pieces, and the righties still think it is just a bad dream. Off course they, along with faux News, need their bogeymen, so you have O'Reiley, Hannity, and Hume talking their marching orders from the RNC and attacking Murtha, lying about Pelosi's airplane request, still denying the greenhouse effect, and still supporting a war that has long since proven to be a disaster if biblical proportion. If you want to see hypocrisy, look at the relationship b/t the Bushies and the House of Saud...from Prescott Bush to W, their hands are drenched in oil blood. Gore has not told anyone how to live, he simply asked that a scientific fact be accepted, and that we do whatever small part we can to reduce greenhouse emissions. I suppose you righties think he should sell his house, or stop traveling by jet, etc...those are juvenile and immature arguments..the real issue is preventing large scale manufacturers from dumping their toxins in the air and accelerating what has been occurring for millions of years...The republican reign of terror is almost over, and like all defeated movements, it will get very ugly before it gets better. I would much rather be Al Gore and get accussed of being a hypocrite for using too much energy, than be a man like Bush, Cheney, Rumy et al, who have to look at themselves everyday knowing they sent our nations finest on a ill-planned mission without the basic necessities, and then abandoned these heros when they came home.

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pdog wrote:


I have 2400 sq ft, 3 bdrm, 3 bath home... His home is much bigger than mine, and in a colder climate during the winter and hotter in the summer, my last energy bill was just under $500... I don't think he's using much more energy than me, all things considered. Seriously, how many secret service agents are using thiese resources, washing, coking, cleaning ect...
Attacking individuals who mean well, is only making the case for energy change more important. The people backing the anti-climate change position are people who work in energy related industries.

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