| 17th August 2006 08:38 AM |
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sirmoonie wrote:
Hey Rodney, puffskunk Michael Jackson is blacker than Feej. Lets get some crack, man. Lets get fucking high. I like to get high.
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| 17th August 2006 08:39 AM |
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| Chuck |
August 16, 2006
Gee, Your Hair Smells Terror-ific!
Shampoo, Fear and Elections
By RON JACOBS
http://www.counterpunch.org/jacobs08162006.html
In the wake of the August 10th, 2006 arrests of some nineteen men on charges of conspiracy to blow up airliners, George Bush, wannabe tyrant that he is, declared that the US is at war with so-called Islamofascists. Not only does this use of the word to describe terrorists that use the Koran as their inspiration misunderstand the definition of fascism, it insults the majority of Muslims along with the intelligence of thinking people around the world. According to the American Heritage dictionary, fascism is "a philosophy or system of government that is marked by stringent social and economic control, a strong, centralized government usually headed by a dictator, and often a policy of belligerent nationalism." Left unsaid in this defintion is that the economic control is control by giant corporations, not the State. In fact, the State serves the corporations. To add to this misuse of the English language, Michael Chertoff, Uber Commander of Homeland Security, called these "Islamofascists' imperialists. Now, fascists don't need a country from which to launch their repressive and pro-capitalist theory, but in order for someone to be an imperialist, they need to have a country to operate from.
Last time I looked, the so-called terror gangs of which Bush speaks don't run any nation anywhere. Which means that the so-called Islamofascists can't be accused of belligerent nationalism since they don't have a nation to be nationalistic about. Like Christianity, Islam encourages converts, and also like Christianity, it has its adherents that encourage such conversions under threat of death. Both religions, however, prefer people to convert of their own free will. The fact that the terror gangs that call themselves Muslim gain most (if not all) of their converts voluntarily says a lot more about the powerlessness those individuals feel (thanks to the machinations of western Christian capital) than it does about Islam. It might do Messrs. Bush and Chertoff some good to look in the mirror to discover the true definition of imperialist and fascism. Indeed, it might do a good number of US citizens some good.
The New York Times wrote that the arrests and foiled "attack" with shampoo bottles and toothpaste tubes could well be a turning point in the upcoming US elections. According to this viewpoint, the prowar folks running for election can point to the arrests as proof that Washington is surely fighting a war against an evil never before seen in the world and that the war in Iraq and US support for Israel is essential in order to win this war. To put it bluntly, the only way one could reason like this is if they had their head way up their brainwashed ass (or is it asswashed?) Most of the rest of the world (and many US residents) see the situation completely opposite.
In other words, the reason for the raised potential of terror attacks in the United States and the United Kingdom is because they invaded Iraq, occupied it, and now refuse to call for an immediate ceasefire in Lebanon and Gaza. Instead, the US State Department, the White House, and the Pentagon debate about when they should send more cluster bombs to Israel.
The growing consensus, meanwhile, on that question is that they will send them as long as Israel promises that in the future they won't aim them directly at buildings where people might be living (or whatever you call the daily life of the Lebanese these days).
These terror cells are not being uncovered in Italy or Spain. No, they are being uncovered in Britain and their targets are (if we are to believe the British and US security officials) US citizens. Do you think the reason for this might be that Italy is in the process of removing her troops from Iraq and Spain did so a couple years ago? Then again, this might mean that Spain and Italy don't feel the need to scare their citizenry into submission every once in a while just so the rulers can continue their march towards total; control. Or total chaos.
Whether the plots are real or contrived by some black ops grouping, they have had the effect that London and Washington wanted: their citizens are acting a little more scared than they were. Like the air raid drills of the 1950s and 1960s when New Yorkers were instructed to go to certain subway stations designated as fallout shelters and schoolchildren were told to hide under their desks and duck and cover should the big bad Soviets drop their atomic bomb, these occasional terror plots and alerts are designed to keep the citizenry in fear. Back in 1963, Bob Dylan answered the state's manipulation of that fear with his song "Let Me Die In My Footsteps." Here's a sample of his sentiment:
There's always been people that have to cause fear They've been talking of the war now for many long years I have read all their statements and I've not said a word But now Lawd God, let my poor voice be heard. Let me die in my footsteps Before I go down under the ground.
As for those elections in the US, voters should be aware. Just because a politician is running as a Democrat doesn't mean they are against the war. Where I live in North Carolina, the Democratic candidate is as pro-war as the Republican candidate, who is a shamelessly corrupt war supporter that supports the most reactionary of the immigration bills and kisses the ass of every right wing supposedly Christian preacher in the region (and there's a few of them, believe me). As for Israel, forget it, you'd be hard put to find a single Democrat who doesn't support every act of war, torture cell, wall of separation, and cluster bomb attack that Israel undertakes. Every bully likes having a lieutenant that will provoke a fight and do the dirty work. Tel Aviv is playing that role for Washington these days.
Then again, perhaps this all means that voters in the US do support Israel's wars and Washington's plans to dominate the world. If they do, then they shouldn't be surprised if real fascism becomes the rule of law in these United States. It is already the economic status quo.
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| 17th August 2006 09:29 AM |
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| Fiji Joe |
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not bound to please wrote:
You can thank your pals for that. If you don't think they are sick hypocritical stalker fucks - then I have nothing more to say to you.
Although, congrats on the tickets. I hope you have a great time, seriously.
And you beleive that...people know the score...and hypocritical?...you're kidding right...you ever see me posting mean, nasty, intimate details of someone's PERSONAL life?...get used to it...it will be the status quo with you
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| 17th August 2006 09:35 AM |
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| Fiji Joe |
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sirmoonie wrote:
And to think I get dinged with anti-semite (which I'm not), when it turns out some here have issues with, oh.....half the human race.
Y'ins should have got out more back in the day, you wouldn't be so bitter now. I'm just saying.....
Ah yes..always defending the down-trodden...you have no idea how whacky that chick's been..no idea...shit man...you equate my children to nazis and huns, I in return call you a "pansy ass" (in the context of a well-deserved history lesson mind you) and you in return find it necessary to request my address so you can come learn me some manners...you're kidding with all this right?...you lecturing on bitter?...have you seen what she's posting?...you cool with that?...just askin'
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| 17th August 2006 09:38 AM |
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| Fiji Joe |
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not bound to please wrote:
as have I. I have offered to forgive and forget, repeatedly, and tried to defuse their egos with humour, etc.
A friend who is wrong and attacking someone - no. Won't do that. Shall not defend. Sorry.
You posted PERSONAL stuff on flea and SS for a month on the couch...it was ignored...then you come here and start, following SS around, and now you're the victim?...Pdog had you pegged...he did call it |
| 17th August 2006 09:50 AM |
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| Fiji Joe |
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sirmoonie wrote:
Trust me, SS knows what he's doing, he doesn't need your help.
The ironicalismness here is this stems from Dande's issues with her Ex Flea - the guy who was finally driven off by like 3-4 politics-only guys trashing his girlfriend - that was apparently okay, hardly anyone (including you) said a word - hell, that slamfest is still being fucking laughed about - but what Dande has allegedly done (I haven't seen it) is not.
Irrespective of what she did, different standards being applied - only meaningful difference appears to be gender - only logical conclusions are that some guys here either don't like girls, or find them relatively easier targets. Am I wrong? Fuck no, I ain't wrong nigger, I got Leviathan-like board cred.
Man...I been on these boards for 4 years and I have NEVER...ever seen someone's personal garbage spread out like this chick has done...and I sat on that for a month man...she was posting some in the know stuff about Flea and SS and since no one was responding and SS had told me he was going to ignore it, I let it be...but that was on the couch...and yesterday morning I'm reading a thread and she's doing it over here now...where it can't be hid...where SS can't ignore it by simply glossing over the thread...
Man...you threatened to kick my ass the other day for calling you a "pansy ass"...imagine if I had the goods on your old lady and posted them on the internet...nah man...you're talking out of your ass here...just cause Fiji says it don't mean it's wrong moonie...don't mean you have to take the opposite side...you know what she did (doing) is about as wrong as you can get on a message board...I guess you figure you gonna get some of that...bout all I can figure |
| 17th August 2006 09:53 AM |
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| nankerphelge |
"The ironicalismness here is this stems from Dande's issues with her Ex Flea - the guy who was finally driven off by like 3-4 politics-only guys trashing his girlfriend - that was apparently okay, hardly anyone (including you) said a word - hell, that slamfest is still being fucking laughed about - but what Dande has allegedly done (I haven't seen it) is not.
Irrespective of what she did, different standards being applied - only meaningful difference appears to be gender - only logical conclusions are that some guys here either don't like girls, or find them relatively easier targets. Am I wrong?"
Wrong-in-part.
Flea was driven off by no one -- he left of his own accord. He got pissed when one guy said something about his girlfriend and decided to vent his spleen on a number of people who, incidently, are more than about just politics -- myself included. I disagree with what Tele said about Flea's girlfriend. That was uncalled for. But that sure as hell didn't warrant Flea's lumping me or Riffy or anyone else into his little piss-fest. Fuck him.
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| 17th August 2006 10:00 AM |
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| Fiji Joe |
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nankerphelge wrote:
"The ironicalismness here is this stems from Dande's issues with her Ex Flea - the guy who was finally driven off by like 3-4 politics-only guys trashing his girlfriend - that was apparently okay, hardly anyone (including you) said a word - hell, that slamfest is still being fucking laughed about - but what Dande has allegedly done (I haven't seen it) is not.
Irrespective of what she did, different standards being applied - only meaningful difference appears to be gender - only logical conclusions are that some guys here either don't like girls, or find them relatively easier targets. Am I wrong?"
Wrong-in-part.
Flea was driven off by no one -- he left of his own accord. He got pissed when one guy said something about his girlfriend and decided to vent his spleen on a number of people who, incidently, are more than about just politics -- myself included. I disagree with what Tele said about Flea's girlfriend. That was uncalled for. But that sure as hell didn't warrant Flea's lumping me or Riffy or anyone else into his little piss-fest. Fuck him.
Actually nanky...the ironicalismness of all this is I got lectured on this topic by a dude who offered to come down to my town and whoop my ass just because I called him a "pansy ass"...never mind that in post before he equated my children to nazis and huns...my children?...my kids man!
See...that's ironical...when you think about it...that's exactly what it is
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| 17th August 2006 10:03 AM |
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| not bound to please |
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Fiji Joe wrote:
You posted PERSONAL stuff on flea and SS for a month on the couch...it was ignored...then you come here and start, following SS around, and now you're the victim?...Pdog had you pegged...he did call it
in couch chat, they told me some real doozies about you. They like that, and ask for the fun stuff. Pdog is the resident yenta.
This horse has been flogged to death, but hey - since you can't seem to tell - carry on!
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| 17th August 2006 10:13 AM |
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| Fiji Joe |
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not bound to please wrote:
in couch chat, they told me some real doozies about you. They like that, and ask for the fun stuff. Pdog is the resident yenta.
This horse has been flogged to death, but hey - since you can't seem to tell - carry on!
Yeah..."THEY" would have told you "doozies" that I told them myself...otherwise, "they" would just be making things up no?...and it ain't flogged to death until it stops happening...you're wrong and you know it |
| 17th August 2006 10:15 AM |
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| not bound to please |
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Fiji Joe wrote:
Yeah..."THEY" would have told you "doozies" that I told them myself...otherwise, "they" would just be making things up no?...and it ain't flogged to death until it stops happening...you're wrong and you know it
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| 17th August 2006 10:17 AM |
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| sirmoonie |
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nankerphelge wrote:
But that sure as hell didn't warrant Flea's lumping me or Riffy or anyone else into his little piss-fest. Fuck him.
Agreed. |
| 17th August 2006 10:20 AM |
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| nankerphelge |
You and I are still chillin' at the mines, right?
We's cool and all? |
| 17th August 2006 10:31 AM |
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| sirmoonie |
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Fiji Joe wrote:
Actually nanky...the ironicalismness of all this is I got lectured on this topic by a dude who offered to come down to my town and whoop my ass just because I called him a "pansy ass"...never mind that in post before he equated my children to nazis and huns...my children?...my kids man!
See...that's ironical...when you think about it...that's exactly what it is
Lighten the fuck up. You know damn well I meant nothing against your family, barely even knew you had one. My apologies if you took it that way - you should not have done so. You flame my heritage, I flame yours, you flame me, I flame you, thats the way is been from day one.
And I never asked for your addy, could care less where you are. All I said was if you want to meet and "discuss" things - which it sure the hell looked like to me - I'm fine with it. Still am fine with it.
Actually its you who dishes, then can't take it. Quit harboring grudges, you'll live longer. |
| 17th August 2006 10:43 AM |
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| Fiji Joe |
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sirmoonie wrote:
Lighten the fuck up. You know damn well I meant nothing against your family, barely even knew you had one. My apologies if you took it that way - you should not have done so. You flame my heritage, I flame yours, you flame me, I flame you, thats the way is been from day one.
And I never asked for your addy, could care less where you are. All I said was if you want to meet and "discuss" things - which it sure the hell looked like to me - I'm fine with it. Still am fine with it.
Actually its you who dishes, then can't take it. Quit harboring grudges, you'll live longer.
Seriously...you didn't want to kick my ass?...I have to say I did beleive that...I really thought you did...that's why I sent my number...I'm relieved
And come on moonie...me?...grudges?...in reality?...I've come square with everyone I've sparred with...I always do
But this thing going on now has nothing to do with a grudge...or females (LOL)...I got along fine with nbtp...for quite a while...but this stuff is nonsense...and what makes it worse is that she has the gall to lie about it...and now she has followed SS over here...it has to stop...and whether SS sees it or whether it bothers him is irrelevant to me...it's disturbing, not because of its content, but because of its intent
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| 17th August 2006 10:48 AM |
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| Zulu Fun Mix |
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You're consistent, even though I hoped you wouldn't stoop so low as to bring up someones wife! Even on Lugar's board, that was pretty fucking low
But YOU openly joined in the laughing and mocking when they brought in FPM's girlfriend! Shouldn't that also count as "pretty fucking low?" Something tells me that if Flea had won that slugfest you would now be lambasting the right-wingers.
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| 17th August 2006 10:52 AM |
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| Zulu Fun Mix |
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Fiji Joe wrote:
Seriously...this stuff is nonsense...and what makes it worse is that she has the gall to lie about it...and now she has followed SS over here...it has to stop...
So you're saying that you're a man with mission? Pummelling the woman down to keep her in line? Why is that YOUR responsibility, in any case? And why didn't you pummel your right-wing male buddies down for going after FPM's girlfriend? Shouldn't that also have been a mission for a law-and-order-enforcement guy like you?
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| 17th August 2006 10:53 AM |
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| not bound to please |
feej is groveling, cool.
Followed SS here? You're kidding, right? I've been on these boards years before him.
Anyway - carry on...
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| 17th August 2006 10:54 AM |
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| sirmoonie |
Let's all go back to talking about people's mothers. If the negroes have taught us anything, its that momma jokes is fly. |
| 17th August 2006 10:54 AM |
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| not bound to please |
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Zulu Fun Mix wrote:
So you're saying that you're a man with mission? Pummelling the woman down to keep her in line? Why is that YOUR responsibility, in any case? And why didn't you pummel your right-wing male buddies down for going after FPM's girlfriend? Shouldn't that also have been a mission for a law-and-order-enforcement guy like you?
No - I think we all got feej and pdog's number.
more rope?
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| 17th August 2006 10:57 AM |
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| not bound to please |
see this thread?
http://www.novogate.com/board/968/230329-2.html |
| 17th August 2006 10:57 AM |
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| Fiji Joe |
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not bound to please wrote:
No - I think we all got feej and pdog's number.
more rope?
Exhibit # 2
Your not guilty by reason of insanity plea is shaping up nicely |
| 17th August 2006 11:00 AM |
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| Fiji Joe |
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not bound to please wrote:
see this thread?
http://www.novogate.com/board/968/230329-2.html
Is there a point there nutty?...someone better tell all the ladies I've meeted and greeted I can't fucking stand them...I think they think I like them |
| 17th August 2006 11:02 AM |
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| 17th August 2006 11:05 AM |
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| Fiji Joe |
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not bound to please wrote:
No way that rope fits around your very bulbous head |
| 17th August 2006 11:08 AM |
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| not bound to please |
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Fiji Joe wrote:
No way that rope fits around your very bulbous head
it will fit around you though...
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| 17th August 2006 11:09 AM |
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| Fiji Joe |
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not bound to please wrote:
Your new man needs to take that "Deal-A-Meal" dealio a little more seriously |
| 17th August 2006 11:11 AM |
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| not bound to please |
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Fiji Joe wrote:
Your new man needs to take that "Deal-A-Meal" dealio a little more seriously
but this is you, and you know it.
not my type, but thanks anyway. There are guys out there into this look.
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| 17th August 2006 11:21 AM |
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| Starbuck |
would someone please tell me who i'm not supposed to like?
is flea "in" or is he "out"? good god, let's make up our minds!
FYI lambie, talya is a serious nutcase. there is no doubt about that, regardless of whatever connection you may have from the couch. she's loony as a loon! |
| 17th August 2006 11:25 AM |
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| not bound to please |
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Starbuck wrote:
would someone please tell me who i'm not supposed to like?
is flea "in" or is he "out"? good god, let's make up our minds!
FYI lambie, talya is a serious nutcase. there is no doubt about that, regardless of whatever connection you may have from the couch. she's loony as a loon!
at least I don't tell her to kill herself.
really sleazy.
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