| 17th August 2006 10:22 PM |
|
|
| Brainbell Jangler |
quote:
telecaster wrote:
Riffy just hope Brainbell doesn't give you the
"60 Minutes/Dan Rather" treatment
You know, fake letters and all
It is, of course, beyond the realm of possibility that Karl Rove planted the aforementioned fake letters.
Go see "Who Is Bush's Brain?" |
| 17th August 2006 10:23 PM |
|
|
| Zulu Fun Mix |
quote:
Fiji Joe wrote:
Wow..who does that?...you gonna drop some more personals?
Feej, here's the thing I can't understand about you and your little sidekick running pdog. Let's say you're right and nbtp said something bad to "SS" at Maxlugar's site. Okay, but that was what, 7-10 days ago? Why bring it up now, and repeatedly, in this forum? Do you think your friend SS appreciates you raising it over and over again so that now dozens or even hundreds of people who never knew anything about it (including old Zulu here) now see his name dragged through the mud repeatedly? What favors are you actually doing him?
Could it be that the whole thing is, rather than altruism, pathetic self-protection on your part? Nbtp was giving you a major-league ass-whoopin' for days on in. Everybody saw it; we were doubled over with laughter! Could it be that you, in all your right-wing glory, simply couldn't STAND the thought of gettin' whooped on by a women in public, so now you're desperately trying to divert attention by lashing back so psychotically that it's funny but painful?
You bet your right-wing little ass it could be, Feej!
|
| 17th August 2006 10:24 PM |
|
|
| Brainbell Jangler |
quote:
telecaster wrote:
Good lord, this is the kind of crap you see at Keno's
Hey Brainbell, I know that this is way, way beyond your scope, but Bush flew the F-102 which was an air superiority fighter designed to shoot down Soviet bombers, not ground attack.
It wasn't used in 'Nam. Zero. It was strictly used as part of NORAD for air defense of the US.
So while your hero Clinton was sitting in the Soviet capital of Moscow during 'Nam, Bush was trained to shoot down Soviet bombers that wanted to drop nukes on the US
in his F-102. And for that Bush recieved an honorable discharge with zero infractions on his record
Remember the "Cold War".
Those F-102s take a lot of Soviet SAM fire flying over Texas? |
| 17th August 2006 10:26 PM |
|
|
| Riffhard |
quote:
Brainbell Jangler wrote:
It is, of course, beyond the realm of possibility that Karl Rove planted the aforementioned fake letters.
It is of course,beyond the realm of possibility that your tin foil hat is too tight.
Riffy |
| 17th August 2006 10:29 PM |
|
|
| Brainbell Jangler |
quote:
Riffhard wrote:
It is of course,beyond the realm of possibility that your tin foil hat is too tight.
Riffy
How much do you know about Rove and the dirty tricks shenanigans he's been pulling ever since his days as a College Republican? Nothing? Goodness! I'm so surprised my tin hat fell off. |
| 17th August 2006 10:36 PM |
|
|
| Fiji Joe |
Zulu Fun Mix (NPTP) wrote:
"Feej, here's the thing I can't understand about you and your little sidekick running pdog. Let's say you're right and nbtp said something bad to "SS" at Maxlugar's site. Okay, but that was what, 7-10 days ago?"
No..it was constant...and it was just 3 days ago here on this board...Hot chicks appreciation thread
"Why bring it up now, and repeatedly, in this forum? Do you think your friend SS appreciates you raising it over and over again so that now dozens or even hundreds of people who never knew anything about it (including old Zulu here) now see his name dragged through the mud repeatedly? What favors are you actually doing him?"
Well...for starters...I bet she doesn't do it again...and then there's the whole notion of the mindset that would allow someone to do that in the first place...it could happen to any of us...sickness is sickness...
"Could it be that the whole thing is, rather than altruism, pathetic self-protection on your part? Nbtp was giving you a major-league ass-whoopin' for days on in. Everybody saw it; we were doubled over with laughter!
Could it be that you, in all your right-wing glory, simply couldn't STAND the thought of gettin' whooped on by a women in public, so now you're desperately trying to divert attention by lashing back so psychotically that it's funny but painful?"
Do you hear yourself?...I hate women?...when did that happen?..I'm right-wing?...how so?...what do you mean by right-wing? Go ahead and tell me how I live and how I think...It will be comical I'm sure
|
| 17th August 2006 10:51 PM |
|
|
| Zulu Fun Mix |
quote:
Fiji Joe wrote:
Zulu Fun Mix (NPTP) wrote:
I'm right-wing?...how so?...what do you mean by right-wing? Go ahead and tell me how I live and how I think...It will be comical I'm sure
There you go again, Feej! You psychotically think that all the people you disagree with must really be just one person. I MUST be NBTP, since how could more than one person in this world possibly disagree with you?!
And how comes it you now try to deny your right-wingedness? In the past, you always trumpeted it with pride.
|
| 17th August 2006 10:55 PM |
|
|
| Riffhard |
quote:
Brainbell Jangler wrote:
How much do you know about Rove and the dirty tricks shenanigans he's been pulling ever since his days as a College Republican? Nothing? Goodness! I'm so surprised my tin hat fell off.
That has nothing to do with the fact that the letter that supposedly proved Bush shirked his NG responsibility came from a man known to despise Bush! Even Dan Rather admitted to that. However,I suppose in some alternative liberal universe this guy may have been in cahoots with Bush's Brain. I wouldn't bet the farm though.
Riffy |
| 17th August 2006 11:18 PM |
|
|
| Fiji Joe |
Smelly goat wrote:
"There you go again, Feej! You psychotically think that all the people you disagree with must really be just one person. I MUST be NBTP, since how could more than one person in this world possibly disagree with you?!"
I just thought with the personals that you were dropping on me last week you're one and the same
"And how comes it you now try to deny your right-wingedness? In the past, you always trumpeted it with pride."
Shoot us a link where I proclaim myself "right-wing"..sounds to me like you just like to put people in neat little boxes...flea used to do that too...weird huh?
I asked you a question...are you going to tell me what I think?...how I live?...take a shot playa |
| 17th August 2006 11:30 PM |
|
|
| Zulu Fun Mix |
quote:
Fiji Joe wrote:
I asked you a question...are you going to tell me what I think?...how I live?...take a shot playa
Feej, my muscular, male, hairy ass aches from all the heavy squatting I did this afternoon, and my mouth and throat hurt from all the whistles and cat-calls I blew at the hot chicks doing their aerobics. I'm signing off for now, but I'll be back to listen to your rants and raves tomorrow. Pleasant dreams, o psycho one!
Z
|
| 18th August 2006 12:25 AM |
|
|
| Brainbell Jangler |
quote:
Riffhard wrote:
That has nothing to do with the fact that the letter that supposedly proved Bush shirked his NG responsibility came from a man known to despise Bush! Even Dan Rather admitted to that. However,I suppose in some alternative liberal universe this guy may have been in cahoots with Bush's Brain. I wouldn't bet the farm though.
Riffy
Goodness, no. Rove is much more clever than that. Who better than a notorious Bush-hating Texan to use as a dupe to pass the phoney letter to Rather? And who better than Rather to pull this scam on? Ol' Dan took on Dubya's daddy and Dubya don't fergit that. You don't think so, ask ol' Saddam
[Edited by Brainbell Jangler] |
| 18th August 2006 01:01 AM |
|
|
| not bound to please |
quote:
Zulu Fun Mix wrote:
There you go again, Feej! You psychotically think that all the people you disagree with must really be just one person. I MUST be NBTP, since how could more than one person in this world possibly disagree with you?!
You know who else used to do that...? Miss U/aka/Brenda...
I smell a love connection...too bad she's a female!
|
| 18th August 2006 01:19 AM |
|
|
| pdog |
Everytime you post a kitten kills a computer! |
| 18th August 2006 01:46 AM |
|
|
| Starbuck |
 |
| 18th August 2006 02:01 AM |
|
|
| pdog |
quote:
Starbuck wrote:
How are you holding up, with all the conflict and shit? |
| 18th August 2006 02:28 AM |
|
|
| not bound to please |
quote:
Starbuck wrote:
see my sig...
|
| 18th August 2006 09:59 AM |
|
|
| Chuck |
South Asia
Aug 18, 2006
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/HH18Df03.html
Be skeptical ... be very skeptical
By M K Bhadrakumar
One of the significant contributions to the "war on terror" by Britain's home secretary David Blunkett before his abrupt departure from the Tony Blair cabinet last year was his statement on terrorism in the House of Commons that specifically flagged the possibility of a "dirty bomb" being planted in Britain by terrorists.
That was in November 2002, when preparations were already in an advanced stage for the march to Baghdad. We are still waiting for the dirty bomb and its lethal radiation. The dirty bomb genre, however, provoked two years later a brilliant television series on BBC2 by acclaimed documentary producer Adam Curtis, titled
The Power of Nightmares: The Rise of the Politics of Fear.
Curtis's argument was that much of the threat of international terrorism turns out to be in actuality "a fantasy that has been exaggerated and distorted by politicians ... In an age when all the grand ideas have lost credibility, fear of a phantom enemy is all the politicians have left to maintain their power."
Curtis placed al-Qaeda terrorism in a long line of dramatic panics in Britain's checkered history since the Elizabethan era, which included the arrival of Spanish raiding parties, French revolutionary agitators, anarchists, Bolsheviks, and Irish republicans.
Naturally, Curtis comes readily to mind a week after British authorities arrested some two dozen Muslims on August 10 for plotting to blow up trans-Atlantic flights from United Kingdom to the United States. Not a shred of evidence has since seen the light of day in this Mother of all Dastardly Plots.
Meanwhile, wild stories of new plots in the making are in circulation. The latest was the "breaking news" regarding the emergency landing of an aircraft in Boston on Wednesday due to the tantrums of an "unruly" woman passenger. Last weekend, Michigan police locked up three hapless Palestinian-Americans for allegedly plotting an act of terrorism. The three "terrorists" were caught red-handed purchasing 80 cell phones from a Wal-Mart store.
Michigan police concluded that the cell phones could be used as detonators to blow up the Mackinac Bridge, which connected the peninsula's upper and lower parts. Subsequently it transpired that the three detained "terrorists" bought and sold cell phones to make a living.
The London plot itself is becoming curiouser and curiouser. Reports have appeared that the British security agencies were feeling increasingly uncomfortable that their American counterparts rushed to make out that the alleged plot was linked to al-Qaeda. More importantly, it appears that sources in London have begun distancing themselves from the plot by claiming that the British side was pressured from Washington to go public with the plot despite a lack of evidence and clear and convincing facts whether any conspiracy in fact existed at all.
Not surprisingly, the loudest voices of skepticism about the alleged plot are heard in Pakistan, where of course the public is habitually cynical over anything that goes to the credit of the establishment. This despite the insistent claim that the UK, US and Pakistani security agencies had actively coordinated in thwarting the plot - a scenario that cast Pakistan as a plucky, feisty partner in the "war on terror", quite contrary to the prevailing impression that Islamabad is possibly indulging in doublespeak.
The skeptics in Pakistan feel that the entire plot is a crudely executed hoax by the Bush administration. It was not only the so-called "jihadi" circles in Pakistan that ridiculed the plot but even sections of opinion, which usually put primacy on reasoning. The Pakistani newspaper Daily Times commented editorially, "There is a horrible war going on in Lebanon and it is not unfolding in favor of Israel, US and UK. Iraq has gone bad; Afghanistan is getting worse.
"The Bush-Blair duo is in trouble at home and both need something really big to happen to justify their policies and distract attention from their losses ... the past record of intelligence agencies everywhere suggests they are quite capable of blowing up or underplaying things for better media management of their respective governments' performance. So a bit of skepticism is in order."
Adam Curtis had an explanation for the dilemma facing the saner sections of opinion in times of public hysteria. As he explained two years ago, such plots, when blown up in larger-than-life terms and whipping up an atmosphere of hysteria, have a way of trapping us. In the process, we get "trapped by a fear that is completely irrational".
Indeed, in a poll after the plot story broke, 55% of Americans voiced approval of Bush's handling of terrorism and homeland security. A beaming Bush promptly promised his nervous nation that the terror fight may last for "years to come". Democrats are beginning to accuse the Republicans of using the scare to political advantage ahead of the November elections to the US Congress.
Former US president Bill Clinton said: "They [the Bush administration] seem to be anxious to tie it to al-Qaeda. If that's true, how come we've got seven times as many troops in Iraq as in Afghanistan? I think that Republicans should be very careful in playing politics with this London thing because they're going to have a hard time with the facts."
All the same, it is extraordinary that the mainstream media in the US could so willingly suspend their disbelief over the patchy official claims that the plot was a "real idea" of cosmic significance. Furthermore, they dutifully ran "expert opinions" by commentators on the alleged plotters' al-Qaeda connections. Not a single mainstream newspaper in the US challenged the plot theory as such - leave alone pointed out the patent gulf between the London plotters' ambition and their ability to pull it off.
It could be that they have succumbed to the "suspiciously circular relationship between the security services and much of the media" (to quote Curtis) in which official briefings become the stuff of dramatic press stories and prompt further briefings and further stories.
At any rate, terrorism thrives on bluff. Think of the horrific bomb blasts in Mumbai last month. Unlike the ethereal London plot, it was tangible; it was verifiable. It was of a piece, by all indications, with the cycle of violence ripping apart India's composite society for the past decade or so since the Babri Mosque was pulled down by vandals incited by Hindu fundamentalists.
Yet, in the wake of the Mumbai blasts, an attempt has been made to link the abhorrent violence to al-Qaeda. As if al-Qaeda is an organized international network. As if it has members or a leader. As if it has "sleeper cells". As if it has corporate-style affiliates and subsidiaries. As if it has a strategy towards India.
Indian media people seem to be unaware that al-Qaeda barely exists at all and that it is more an idea about cleansing the impure world of Islam corrupted by the al-Adou al-Qareeb (Muslim apostates) and al-Adou al-Baeed or the "far enemy" (Israel and the Western powers), through violence sanctioned by religion explicitly for such extraordinary times.
Indian opinion makers seem to believe that countering al-Qaeda justifies a national security objective. Some among them no doubt fancy that a closer "strategic partnership" with the Bush administration becomes possible if only India were to assertively stake claim to be a frontline state in the "war on terror". But there is no way that India can hope to gain entry into the exclusive, charmed circle that comprises the US Central Intelligence Agency, Britain's MI6 and Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence.
The so-called Islamic terror network is the trinity's fabrication. It has become what would be known in intelligence parlance as an "asset" or an "instrument". The "intelligence assets" do enjoy a certain measure of independence and autonomy vis-a-vis their sponsors but that is part of the art of dissimulation. Al-Qaeda has incrementally become then a situation or a chain of events in politics that can arouse a particular emotional reaction instantaneously.
|
| 18th August 2006 11:12 AM |
|
|
| pdog |
Wow Chuck!
Did you copy and paste that all by yourself? |
| 18th August 2006 02:14 PM |
|
|
| Chuck |
Remember all the jackoffs who crowed that Zarqawi's death meant something?
Cafferty's got their number--lol!
http://www.crooksandliars.com/posts/2006/08/18/cafferty-success-in-iraq/
|
| 18th August 2006 02:16 PM |
|
|
| pdog |
quote:
Chuck wrote:
Remember all the jackoffs who crowed that Zarqawi's death meant something?
Cafferty's got their number--lol!
http://www.crooksandliars.com/posts/2006/08/18/cafferty-success-in-iraq/
Chuck, I beleive we have your number... 976-Fist... |
| 18th August 2006 02:18 PM |
|
|
| Chuck |
Are you one of those jackoffs who thought Zarqawi's death was "important"?
|
| 18th August 2006 02:19 PM |
|
|
| Chuck |
pdog---you reek of Bush more than a KD Lang mosh pit. |
| 18th August 2006 02:22 PM |
|
|
| pdog |
quote:
Chuck wrote:
Are you one of those jackoffs who thought Zarqawi's death was "important"?
Nope! |
| 18th August 2006 02:23 PM |
|
|
| pdog |
quote:
Chuck wrote:
pdog---you reek of Bush more than a KD Lang mosh pit.
Wrong again dude! I'm of the belief Bush is the worst president ever, it's my opinion and it can't be changed.
I'm more of a Socialist anda Libertarian mix. Some call me commie, but only if I'm the one in charge. I would make Hitler and Stalin look like Choir boys!
|
| 18th August 2006 02:28 PM |
|
|
| telecaster |
quote:
Chuck wrote:
Are you one of those jackoffs who thought Zarqawi's death was "important"?
Chuck did you see the "Chuck Is Retarded Thread?"
Please check it out |
| 18th August 2006 02:30 PM |
|
|
| Chuck |
Come on pdog, your head's so far up right wing arse you should be called "THE COLONOSCOPE."
|
| 18th August 2006 02:33 PM |
|
|
| telecaster |
quote:
Chuck wrote:
Come on pdog, your head's so far up right wing arse you should be called "THE COLONOSCOPE."
Chuck did you not see Gazza's (webhost)request that you stop using his website for your cut n pastes?
Why do you left wingers not respect other peoples rights
and trample all over others civil liberties and private property? |
| 18th August 2006 02:48 PM |
|
|
| pdog |
quote:
Chuck wrote:
Come on pdog, your head's so far up right wing arse you should be called "THE COLONOSCOPE."
I've never voted for a Republican, and I've voted for Green Party since I can remember. The only Democrat I ever voted for was Clinton, and maybe a few SF Mayors, but not many, not at all now that I think about it.
If you know my voting record, please remind me, b/c I can't remeber shit, I'm too busy laughing at you and enjoying my Freedominess! |
| 18th August 2006 02:51 PM |
|
|
| Fiji Joe |
quote:
pdog wrote:
I've never voted for a Republican, and I've voted for Green Party since I can remember. The only Democrat I ever voted for was Clinton, and maybe a few SF Mayors, but not many, not at all now that I think about it.
If you know my voting record, please remind me, b/c I can't remeber shit, I'm too busy laughing at you and enjoying my Freedominess!
He's referring to your ability to separate politics from other aspects of life and society...he does not like it...ask him why? |
| 18th August 2006 02:51 PM |
|
|
| pdog |
quote:
telecaster wrote:
Why do you left wingers not respect other peoples rights
and trample all over others civil liberties and private property?
There's the Loonie branch of that wing, also known as the forever frustrated of America. They are actually alot like the extreme right, just not organnied, so they get nothing done, and look stupid. While their counterparts are organized and don't want the next jesus killed while trying to find life saving cures.
Organized idiots can get shit done... Then agian, i'm kinda hoping Jesus does come back, I wanna play Exile for her! |
