Is this some kind of slander against menstruating women. . .what's wrong with you people?
13th April 2007 04:08 PM
pdog
quote:monkey_man wrote:
Is this some kind of slander against menstruating women. . .what's wrong with you people?
you're right!
Might time to close up shop...
I know moonie is beside himself, he is so offended...
13th April 2007 04:09 PM
jb
lil jackie and the pain of love tonight
it;s all right, tonight...lil jackie
she knows just what to do, and it'll be
all right, tonight....
13th April 2007 04:33 PM
Joey
quote:jb wrote:
lil jackie and the pain of love tonight
it;s all right, tonight...lil jackie
she knows just what to do, and it'll be
all right, tonight....
JB & JOEY .............................
...keepin' it real .
...and doin' it for the kids !!!!!
ALWAYS .... the kids .
13th April 2007 04:42 PM
pdog
Joey, you will never be allowed near my children.
13th April 2007 05:07 PM
texile
quote:purrcafe wrote:
So what happens when the tables are turned and the very powerful christian fundamentalist voting block decides to flex their muscle by creating a shitstorm over say, a talk show with a gay theme (or anything similar) because their lifestyle is offensive. It isn't a very long stretch to see where this is headed.
this is already, unfortunately a reality -
but to equate that with a stupid, denigrating comment by a shock jock is placing it out of context.
cloaking this incident in the realm of 'free speech' or bringing up these political correct conspiracy theories is WAY out of context and gives imus' words more credence than they're worth.
13th April 2007 05:49 PM
purrcafe
[quote]texile wrote:
cloaking this incident in the realm of 'free speech' or bringing up these political correct conspiracy theories is WAY out of context and gives imus' words more credence than they're worth.[quote]
You need to look at this as more than just one isolated case, frozen in time. Just as Imus statements had repercussions, it is entire possible that those repercussions, meant as a corrective action will do far more harm than good. What I suggest is hardly a conspiracy theory, much less politically correct. I never liked Imus and still don't, but I believe that by creating this frenzy around him a non-event has given birth to a lynch mob. I don't know about you, but I don't want or need anyone, be they politician or religious figure "helping" me by deciding what THEY think is appropriate viewing or listening. The choices are limited enough as it is, particularly for those of us with the maturity to dismiss the mutterings of an ass as nothing more than that. I prefer to not see a revival of the gentle art of book burning.
[Edited by purrcafe]
13th April 2007 06:03 PM
pdog
The politicians are on it, Hillary will be speaking at the college... {sigh}
13th April 2007 06:06 PM
pdog
When all is said and done, who will be the decider of the moral compass we must follow?
13th April 2007 06:21 PM
purrcafe
quote:pdog wrote:
When all is said and done, who will be the decider of the moral compass we must follow?
I'd rather remain my own moral compass, but I guess I can't be trusted to act in my own best interest.
13th April 2007 06:46 PM
texile
quote:purrcafe wrote:
[quote]texile wrote:
cloaking this incident in the realm of 'free speech' or bringing up these political correct conspiracy theories is WAY out of context and gives imus' words more credence than they're worth.[quote]
You need to look at this as more than just one isolated case, frozen in time. Just as Imus statements had repercussions, it is entire possible that those repercussions, meant as a corrective action will do far more harm than good. What I suggest is hardly a conspiracy theory, much less politically correct. I never liked Imus and still don't, but I believe that by creating this frenzy around him a non-event has given birth to a lynch mob. I don't know about you, but I don't want or need anyone, be they politician or religious figure "helping" me by deciding what THEY think is appropriate viewing or listening. The choices are limited enough as it is, particularly for those of us with the maturity to dismiss the mutterings of an ass as nothing more than that. I prefer to not see a revival of the gentle art of book burning.
[Edited by purrcafe]
at the risk of seeming contradictory, i actually agree with your post..
i despise any type of political correctness , and yes, turning this inot a media storm DID give the words more credence...
but people, not just the team, were offended and disgusted by the comments because they were so uncalled for and blatantly degrading....
yes, it was an isolated incident - and imus paid the price for it,
that fact doesn't destroy the foundation of a of free-speech society.
13th April 2007 06:50 PM
sirmoonie
Amazing what people in this country concern themselves with. Continues to be amazing.
13th April 2007 07:01 PM
Joey
quote:sirmoonie wrote:
Amazing what people in this country concern themselves with. Continues to be amazing.
Moonie .......................................
My heart just aches !
************* IT'S PUB TIME *****************
Bye Bye Kids .... Bye Bons !!!!!!
JJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJACKY !
13th April 2007 08:08 PM
pdog
Is that your goodnight post?
13th April 2007 11:04 PM
sirmoonie
quote:Joey wrote:
Moonie .......................................
My heart just aches !
************* IT'S PUB TIME *****************
Bye Bye Kids .... Bye Bons !!!!!!
JJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJACKY !
Hey Joe-smoker, did you see this in the youtube thread? Fucking unreal!
14th April 2007 11:17 AM
Chuck
Is this why corporate America dumped Imus?
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14th April 2007 11:19 AM
MrPleasant
Some people just can't handle a joke.
14th April 2007 02:53 PM
Angiegirl
I have never heard of the people you're all talking about here, but what does Oprah say about all this?
14th April 2007 02:55 PM
Strange_Stray_Cat
quote:Angiegirl wrote:
I have never heard of the people you're all talking about here, but what does Oprah say about all this?
She will probably say: happy birthday SSC!!!
14th April 2007 03:11 PM
Angiegirl
Probably because it's not your birthday yet.
14th April 2007 05:34 PM
Joey
quote:Angiegirl wrote:
Probably because it's not your birthday yet.
Congratulations once again Angiegirl .
14th April 2007 06:59 PM
MrPleasant
quote:Angiegirl wrote:
I have never heard of the people you're all talking about here, but what does Oprah say about all this?
She's the one who probably did the firing.
14th April 2007 07:32 PM
Mahatma Kane Jeeves
America's preeminent $3 dollar hooker, Hillary R Clinton, had something to do with Imus getting fired.
I just know it
14th April 2007 07:43 PM
pdog
quote:Angiegirl wrote:
I have never heard of the people you're all talking about here, but what does Oprah say about all this?
She's one of those americans that talks a good game about tolerance and forgiveness. Except in a case like this! The basketball team will be appearing on her show soon...
these ultra PC liberals are doing the grunt work for the far right... There was a time that liberals stuck together, I think it was in the mid 70's for about 3 years...
14th April 2007 07:43 PM
Joey
quote:sirmoonie wrote:
Hey Joe-smoker, did you see this in the youtube thread? Fucking unreal!
Bless You Moonie !
You are much loved by Joey
15th April 2007 12:49 AM
sweetcharmedlife
Thank God. No more Imus. Now all of us nappy headed hoes can sleep tonight.
15th April 2007 02:22 PM
gimmekeef
Oprah Windbag will have the true story this week no doubt...After she wolfs down her third burgher....
15th April 2007 03:07 PM
Angiegirl
quote:sweetcharmedlife wrote:
Thank God. No more Imus. Now all of us nappy headed hoes can sleep tonight.
So what exactly does a nappy headed ho translate to? I get the "ho" part, but what's the first part mean?
15th April 2007 03:53 PM
sirmoonie
quote:Angiegirl wrote:
So what exactly does a nappy headed ho translate to? I get the "ho" part, but what's the first part mean?
Uncombed kinky hair is referred to as "nappy" and requires a pick with a black power salute handle to fix. Black kids often tell each other to "get your naps out" as a means of scorn and derision.
15th April 2007 04:04 PM
pdog
quote:Angiegirl wrote:
So what exactly does a nappy headed ho translate to? I get the "ho" part, but what's the first part mean?
I tell me one year old he's a nappy head when he's tired. I never even considered that I was being racist. My wife says "nicker nap" to him, seems she is defitely pushing the bar. I think people are fucking idiots! To show my outrage I will not pick up any white people in my cab tonight.
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