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pdog wrote:


This is my point exactly, you're argument is basically telling us how these girls feel. Who the hell are you to do that... Not only are you being offended for someone else, you're taking this to the level of their lives are beuing ruined. WTF! do you not leave your house, people are assholes on the streets, and I hear all kinds of stuff. Are we gonna go around and tell everyone what to do and say? I never siad I need to say the word nigger, I hear it so much, that it shouldn't matter if I ever say it or not. It's like the word cunt. I can call someone it, I can put my face in one, and babies come out of them... Some people don't like the word, is that my problem? People should have the right to be stupid, if they continue to do so, it's their choice. No one has ever died from being called a cunt or a nigger... There's plenty of people who suffer from "isms" and act on them, that never utter a single slur.
So go on about how bad these girls have it... and tell me, who was worse, Imus or the asshole who brought a 15 second soundbite to theri atttention.
I say the person who made them aware of t, otherwise, they would never know. People have said horrible things about me, that i've never been told, and my life goes on... I wish I knew, so I could feel bad and have you go get them fired, especially Imus, he's offended my Jewness... This is retarded and you're retarded... Oops, Now the retards are angry... FUCK! I can't say fuck... God damn it! Oh no, now the religous folks are offended. Thus is gay! Now the fags are marching! UGH! I said marching, now I've made it miltant... The army is now dragged into this...
Don't say anything about gay, jews in the military, religions will be offended and god will kill a retard.

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monkey_man wrote:
It seems ridiculous that Imus gets fired for a stupid joke. He has been a has been for at least 20 years. His schtick was bad, morning, drive time "humor" The are many jocks on the radio whose intent IS malicious and that that say hateful things on a regular basis. No one goes after them because they are skilled at keeping their hate in acceptable code words.

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pdog wrote:


There's a difference between wanting to do something, and being told you can't do something. you have choice... You can, not call Whoopi a ho! I can call whoopi a ho. Take away my right, and you might lose your freedom to choose! Ultra liberal PC crap, is no different than clampdown oppression!
how would feel losing the right to disagree with me?

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lovelymocca wrote:


I don't have to tell you how these girls felt, they have already told us this.

I listened to a 12yr old black girl call a radio station on
Monday crying because she said she was hurt by this.

We as adults many times forget that kids including 19yr old college students don't take our adult "humour" as lightly as we do.

They're hurt more and crushed more, we adults can take it.

You don't know if being nationally humiliated will scar some of these girls for life.

Now I know you will jump on that stament but it's true.

Now you say you've had things happen to you however it was not known to everyone in the country.

When people see you they do not point the finger at you and say there he is you know the one that........

These girls will have fingers pointed at them when they did
nothing wrong.

Their achievments are what brought this on.

Had they stayed in their place and not excelled and not beaten Duke, Imus wouldn't have had anything to say about them.

They had to go and do their best.

It's their fault , not Imus'.

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lovelymocca wrote:


This is where we differ.

Everyone owns themselves.

One has a right to call themselves whatever they'd like.

That is a right. You have a right to name your own child.

What you do not have a right to do is name someone elses child.

You do not have a right to call someone out of their name.

There is no right to that! That is not freedom of speech.

The forefathers were not thinking they had the right to call someone's wife, slave, brother, sister, a name.

It was for the feedom to protest and speak out against government.

But people want to feel that it also translate to what is the real root of the problem their lack of respect for others.

That's what constitutes freedom of speech today.

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lovelymocca wrote:


This is where we differ.

Everyone owns themselves.

One has a right to call themselves whatever they'd like.

That is a right. You have a right to name your own child.

What you do not have a right to do is name someone elses child.

You do not have a right to call someone out of their name.

There is no right to that! That is not freedom of speech.

The forefathers were not thinking they had the right to call someone's wife, slave, brother, sister, a name.

It was for the feedom to protest and speak out against government.

But people want to feel that it also translate to what is the real root of the problem their lack of respect for others.

That's what constitutes freedom of speech today.

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pdog wrote:


it's the medias fault, for constantly playing the soundbite over and over, or the 12 year old girl, would never have heard it, we need to clampdown hard. we must protect the children.

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monkey_man wrote:


Sticks and stones may break my bones
But words will never hurt me!

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pdog wrote:


This from a man who never had a dictionary thrown at him...

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monkey_man wrote:


I never dated smart chicks only nappy headed ho's

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pdog wrote:

I have another dilema. My german last name is also a slang word for a dick. My asian neighbors last name is a slang word for a dick too. Now we both found this funny, so how do we draw the line, we joked about it together. So baiscally we can't talk like this anymore... We might make little german and asian boys cry!

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pdog wrote:


I hve a question: If a black man can call himself a nigger it's okay, like in a movie, but what if the script was written by a white man?
If we are living in a PC world, that is now being imposed, where do we draw the line?
All Tarantino movies must be pulled ASAP!

I have another dilema. My german last name is also a slang word for a dick. My asian neighbors last name is a slang word for a dick too. Now we both found this funny, so how do we draw the line, we joked about it together. So baiscally we can't talk like this anymore... We might make little german and asian boys cry!

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jb wrote:
We got em' all down here...from Esteban and his magnificent guitars, to the Old Guard on Palm Beach!!! Try it some time!!!

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Strange_Stray_Cat wrote:


Summer in Holland JB, so get your ass over here!

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jb wrote:


Dude, I just added an Italian hand made "Tubi" exhaust to the Maserati, and it added about 15-20 HP, but the sound is deafening!!!! I picked Pug up in it, and he nearly shit in his pants!!!
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jb wrote:


Dude, I just added an Italian hand made "Tubi" exhaust to the Maserati, and it added about 15-20 HP, but the sound is deafening!!!! I picked Pug up in it, and he nearly shit in his pants!!!
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Strange_Stray_Cat wrote:


Wow, cool! Can you pick me up?

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lovelymocca wrote:


It was not the nappy headed comment.

It was the whore comment. (ho isn't short for hostess)

He called these educated black women whores.

They have to go to school. They were private citizens who
he dragged into his low class world.

He disparaged 19yr olds. (young kids who did nothing to him)

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lovelymocca wrote:


This is where we differ.

Everyone owns themselves.

One has a right to call themselves whatever they'd like.

That is a right. You have a right to name your own child.

What you do not have a right to do is name someone elses child.

You do not have a right to call someone out of their name.

There is no right to that! That is not freedom of speech.

The forefathers were not thinking they had the right to call someone's wife, slave, brother, sister, a name.

It was for the feedom to protest and speak out against government.

But people want to feel that it also translate to what is the real root of the problem their lack of respect for others.

That's what constitutes freedom of speech today.

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texile wrote:



i agree -
that's the bottom line.
there is no argument about free speech here -
it was a case of classlessness.

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I listened to a 12yr old black girl call a radio station on
Monday crying because she said she was hurt by this.

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We as adults many times forget that kids including 19yr old college students don't take our adult "humour" as lightly as we do.

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jb wrote:


Dude, I just added an Italian hand made "Tubi" exhaust to the Maserati, and it added about 15-20 HP, but the sound is deafening!!!! I picked Pug up in it, and he nearly shit in his pants!!!
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texile wrote:


great post!
while its a tricky thing to differentiate free speech from a thought-police mentality..
many seem to use the notion of 'free speech' to spout any kind of crap and NOT be held acountable.
yeah, free speech, but what about respect and decency?
if you call a retarded person a name - is that free speech?
in a way, but in a distorted way.

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voodoopug wrote:


Philly Special '72 was blasting on the sound system. We did not listen to one song which featured the playing of Ron Wood.

it was a beautiful car, although it did nearly bottom up while pulling into our hotel valet station.

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