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| Soldatti |
The new live album will be released on September 7 on the US and the day before on Europe and Japan. I think that is called "Live Licks" or something...
The first CD will have the best of the live albums from "Love You Live" to "No Security". The second CD will have the Licks world tour.
Here is the pre-order on Japan (but I don't think that somebody will understand):
http://www.hmv.co.jp/product/detail.asp?sku=1832235
"Sympathy For The Devils" said the same:
http://www.sympathyforthedevils.com/news.htm
This is the last thing that I can ever think: the best of the live albums... |
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| mac_daddy |
this is one of my biggest pet peves (sp)...
why bands wont take a solid show and release the whole thing is absolutely beyond me. format be damned. peter frampton's double live album sold tons. so did that e street band box that came out after the born in the usa tour. if you build it, they will come...
these "best of" collections from live shows blow monkey chunks. you cant get a feel for the show at all, and often times, the person selecting has completely different taste than me (still life comes immediately to mind)...
and who thought it was a good idea to remove the final verse of sympathy on ya yas!?!?! i had to go back and splice that shit in from the ya yas acetate boot, and it was a pain in the ass (but wholly worth it)...
what they should do is release the entire mocambo stuff, as a box set. or at least compile a full show out of both nights' material, and release that.
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"best of No Security" - isn't that kind of an oxymoron..?
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| Snappy McJack |
WHAT
ARE
THEY
DOING
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| LadyJane |
DO NOT tell me this is the new album we've all been waiting for!!! 
"Best of the live albums". WTF??
C'mon "boys"...this is so damned lame!!
LJ. |
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| Snappy McJack |
Why a double album, though? If you are going to release a live album, just make it a single disc! The cost of this thing is going to be too much, and I presume that cuts from "Flashpoint" and "No Security" will not be a good selling point.
What is up with the "best of" releases lately? |
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| Gazza |
you've got to be fuckin' kiddin' me!!!
an eleven year old compilation as a follow up to a double CD compilation that had all those songs on it anyway to begin with?
and then..a month later..
A live album compilation? Including songs from "No Security" - the lowest selling album the Stones ever put out and the one whose commercial failure (so we thought) meant no more live album cash-ins? Hands up who thought THIS was a great idea? No? Thought not! Oh but theres a live CD of Licks material on it. Great. A year after the tour ended too. Just when you thought that "Four flicks" meant we wouldnt have the critically redundant alternative of another bloody live album. I suppose it'll be stuff that was on the DVD just to add insult.
Is this band artistically redundant or what? I fuckin' give up..
I bet the fan club will be givin THIS gem away as a "special treat" to us for our 'loyalty'.
Soldatti, please tell me that this is the Argentinian equivalent of April Fool's Day and you were joking. |
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| Snappy McJack |
http://www.musictap.net/Archives/Po...730.html#062804
Under the "CD" bar -- a little more than halfway down the page.
"We mentioned to you last week that Virgin Records will issue a Rolling Stones title, Jump Back, on August 24. On September 7, Virgin will also release a Rolling Stones Live album. For all those folks who attended a Stones show over the last few years, this will serve as a highlighting of the tour for you."
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| mac_daddy |
quote:
Gazza wrote:
I suppose it (the licks tour material) will be stuff that was on the (four flicks)DVD just to add insult.
that would beat all. |
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| Gazza |
"For all those folks who attended a Stones show over the last few years, this will serve as a highlight of the tour for you."
+++ BLANK FRIGGIN STARE +++
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| Snappy McJack |
I can't honestly think of anything from Virgin that could beat "Licked All Over".
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| Gazza |
Suggestion for album title
"Flogging a Dead Horse" or
"Now We're REALLY taking the piss" |
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| Soldatti |
quote:
Gazza wrote:
Soldatti, please tell me that this is the Argentinian equivalent of April Fool's Day and you were joking.
I wish Gazza, I wish... |
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| Nellcote |
Virgin milking out the contract? |
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| Gazza |
thats what I'm beginning to wonder myself with two 'albums' being suddently scheduled for release just TWO WEEKS apart.
If reissuing an 11 year old compilation that is entirely comprised of songs that are on a top selling compilation (40 licks) thats STILL selling well isnt commercial suicide then folowing it up with a live compilation 2 weeks later certainly is - considering a) theyve waited until a year after the tour ended and b) the last live album proved once and for all that Stones live albums are dead wood. ("No Security" was by a long distance the worst selling album the Stones have ever deemed worthy of release - even though they played around 50 shows in North America and Europe in the 6 months that followed)
I could almost see their point if they put out JUST an album of songs from 2002-2003 but padding it out with repackaged stuff from years ago and getting people to buy a double CD for one CD of live material is shitty. But a single CD of a tour with the 3 types of shows is just plain stupid. How can you do the variety of shows and the concept of that tour justice over about a dozen songs?
The timing of it sounds like an afterthought. As does the issue of "Jump Back". The Stones have one more studio album left with Virgin/EMI on their contract. Maybe there's some silly clause in it that they can release another studio and live album before they quit the label but that they have to do it BEFORE their last studio album comes out for Virgin or something. Thats the only thing I can think of.
I'm amazed that the Stones would put their name to anything as shoddy as this. The lack of artistic control is shocking. |
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| mac_daddy |
best case scenario (in terms of rationalizing these release decisions) - virgin can reissue/package/release stuff until the final studio album goes out - then the contract ends. thus, maybe virgin knows the stones have an album (almost?) in the can (great news for us), and so they are trying to milk the rest of what has been a flagship contract before it disappears forever...
but they have their heads up their collective asses if they think this is where the $$ is at. if the want to reissue, they should do the sacd treatment to their side of the catalog. those would sell, continuously, for a long time.
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| stonedinaustralia |
quote:
mac_daddy wrote:
what they should do is release the entire mocambo stuff, as a box set. or at least compile a full show out of both nights' material, and release that.
couldn't agree more mac_daddyo
that's been my thoughts for a long time |
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| M.O.W.A.T. |
If they must release live albums, how about classic shows (ie. El Mocambo, Knebworth, Paris 76...) otherwise, they risk the chance of being lumped in with Rush. |
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| cwatts0462 |
well remember back in april when charlie had to cancel
his tour do to a stones special project, god i hope this isnt it |
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| Snappy McJack |
quote:
cwatts0462 wrote:
well remember back in april when charlie had to cancel
his tour do to a stones special project, god i hope this isnt it
Yeah, funny if it turns out that he was just doing overdubs for a live album! LOL |
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| kahoosier |
I don't know which is worse, the fat that they are doing this, or the fact that I will buy the live album. Sigh....its a sickeness "Oh your love's a sweet addiction..." |
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| M.O.W.A.T. |
quote:
Gazza wrote:
Suggestion for album title
"Flogging a Dead Horse" or
"Now We're REALLY taking the piss"
How about these:
"Laughing All The Way To The Bank"
"Contractual Obligation" |
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| T&A |
Really strange. I can definitely see myself passing on this, unless there are some real gems on the second disk not from FF...otherwise, I've already burned all the DVD tracks onto CDR, so would have no use for it. But, honestly, shame on the Stones... |
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| sammy davis jr. |
Record execs are the scum of the earth....and stupid. I would hope the Stones have no say in the matter, but I'm sure they do. The boys are taking us for a ride. They are proving the facy over and over: They are an 'oldies" band. Just like the Beach Boys. |
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| FotiniD |
quote:
sammy davis jr. wrote:
Record execs are the scum of the earth....and stupid. I would hope the Stones have no say in the matter, but I'm sure they do. The boys are taking us for a ride. They are proving the facy over and over: They are an 'oldies" band. Just like the Beach Boys.
I think we're jumping on conclusions here. Big time jumping.
I'm more with Gazza and Mac_Daddy here, meaning I think it's Virgin's move to make more $$ - record executives are indeed stupid, and they may think it will sell. Yes, I too think it's the contract stuff in the middle. It just doesn't sound like a 100% Stones decision to me at all.
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| egon |
does richard brandson need to finance another trip around the world? |
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| IanBillen |
quote:
Nellcote wrote:
Virgin milking out the contract?
Yes, that is what it is.
Then what are they going to do another live album after this tour? They could of saved this and released a live album from Licks and upcoming tour instead of giving us this.
Get a studio album out.
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| IanBillen |
quote:
cwatts0462 wrote:
well remember back in april when charlie had to cancel
his tour do to a stones special project, god i hope this isnt it
Cahrlie would not have to cancel the rest of his tour for some over-dubs for a Live album. That only took 10 days, if infact it was over-dubs for a live release.
Ian |
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| Jumacfly |
sad sad sad...they really want to rip all our money with their paying website, this re issue, jump back 2....
Stones are just a brand nowadays, like Coke or Adidas... |
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| cwatts0462 |
[quote]IanBillen wrote:
Cahrlie would not have to cancel the rest of his tour for some over-dubs for a Live album. That only took 10 days, if infact it was over-dubs for a live release.
Ian
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your right but i dont know what else it could have been
at this point,plus by the time the stones go on tour next year charlie could have done the tour after all |
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| UGot2Rollme |
my guess is that Mick needs some renovation work done on his chateau and his cut from this bound-to-be poor selling compilation will probably cover the bill... |
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