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10th October 2007 01:03 PM
Riffhard
quote:
monkey_man wrote:


Hey RO is a family oriented site! There is no reasons to be putting up all these pictures that you like to look at in the privacy of your own home. I mean we were all minding our business and you gotta start posting your perverseness up on a Stones site. . .




LOL! C'mom monkey_man! It's all about inclusiveness! We must learn to accept this as "normal" behaviour! Are you trying to tell me that you think these pictures are "immoral"?! Howe homophobic of you! You probably worship some magic man in the sky who can rise from dead?! These fine All-American folks would rather shove this supposed magic man up their asses! Don't get offended either you damned Jesus Freak!!! We should learn to accept, and even adopt this lifestyle less we be tagged with the "intolerant" line!


Learn to embrace them monkey_man! That's an order from Team Pelosi!



Riffy
10th October 2007 01:12 PM
pdog
quote:
Fiji Joe wrote:


Holy crap?...it's your town...you never given anyone a ride to Folsom Street?

I had to remove the earlier picture...I didn't really look at it close enough before I posted it...now I gotta spend the rest of the day thinking happy thoughts




Holy crap, you're the one posting the pics, that's what I was remarking.
Can you at least tie together for me, a court ruling on torure and folsom st. fair, and after you explain the spin job, can you tell me how you post pics of leather daddy's and explain it to your kids.
10th October 2007 01:17 PM
The jinn, my friend. And now a shameless plug for

www.mickjagger.com


10th October 2007 01:21 PM
Ten Thousand Motels mom, apple Pie, baseball....
torture, surveillence and wiretapping.

10th October 2007 01:23 PM
pdog Riffy, we just hosted Fleet Week. That's a Week, not a one day fair! There was also a two day free concert in the park, huge btw. And we had the techno hippie Love Parade... and the few thousand Burning Man people who had one of their after parties, you wanna talk about freaks and idiots and people living a lifestyle, that I don't agree with!!! All I can say is, if all you see is gay, and if you think SF is subsidizing gay, then, you need to go to gay rehab, before you keep posting those gay pics, you're dancing on the edge of gayness, and the faggots are pulling you in, and you don't even realize it. Quick brother... Get some Nina Hartley porn before you start going to Broadway shows and redcorating your houses.
10th October 2007 01:33 PM
monkey_man
quote:
pdog wrote:
Riffy, we just hosted Fleet Week. That's a Week, not a one day fair!


I'm glad they finally left. . .I ran out of saliva from spitting at the Blue Angels every time they roared by. Now I can get back to bull whipping my neighbor in peace. . .
10th October 2007 01:52 PM
pdog
quote:
monkey_man wrote:


I'm glad they finally left. . .I ran out of saliva from spitting at the Blue Angels every time they roared by. Now I can get back to bull whipping my neighbor in peace. . .




Just be glad you live in a country that openly engages in behind the scenes torture, a country where straight men can post pics of gay men on the internet to make a case for...? Abu Graib???, a country where jets rorar by overhead and you don't die b/c your leader tortures people...
This thread is just getting weird!
[Edited by pdog]
10th October 2007 01:56 PM
Fiji Joe
quote:
pdog wrote:


Holy crap, you're the one posting the pics, that's what I was remarking.
Can you at least tie together for me, a court ruling on torure and folsom st. fair, and after you explain the spin job, can you tell me how you post pics of leather daddy's and explain it to your kids.



It was a joke. And a far funnier one than your "who would Jesus torture?" joke which, by the way, I got as a joke (I guess) and realized that it too had nothing to do with the subject of the thread which everyone was doing a good job of avoiding because it's a non sequitur...No spin on your post is necessary because I'm not questioning your motives as you seem to be questioning mine...If I'm wrong in that regard, my apologies in advance...and I don't have to explain anything to my kids because they're not reading my posts...real simple...don't play the kid card man...it was wrong when it was done to you and it's wrong now...dude please...please...rethink where you think you're going with this...rethink it quick...you're the last one I'm going to listen to about making crass jokes and posting crass pictures...I'll guess you took my post as some sort of "personal" jab because you live in San Fran...which is a product of your own hyper-sensitivity...cause that's not what it was...and I hate to have to even take time outta my day explaining that to you...because you should no better

Now...back to our regularly scheduled program...

It would appear, from those butt plugs they're selling, that we now know who Jesus would torture...


[Edited by Fiji Joe]
10th October 2007 02:10 PM
pdog
quote:
Fiji Joe wrote:


It was a joke. And a far funnier one than your "who would Jesus torture?" joke which, by the way, I got as a joke (I guess) and realized that it too had nothing to do with the subject of the thread which everyone was doing a good job of avoiding because it's a non sequitur...No spin on your post is necessary because I'm not questioning your motives as you seem to be questioning mine...If I'm wrong in that regard, my apologies in advance...and I don't have to explain anything to my kids because they're not reading my posts...real simple...don't play the kid card man...it was wrong when it was done to you and it's wrong now...dude please...please...rethink where you think you're going with this...rethink it quick...you're the last one I'm going to listen to about making crass jokes and posting crass pictures...I'll guess you took my post as some sort of "personal" jab because you live in San Fran...which is a product of your own hyper-sensitivity...cause that's not what it was...and I hate to have to even take time outta my day explaining that to you...because you should no better

Now...because to our regularly scheduled program...

It would appear, from those butt plugs they're selling, that we now know who Jesus would torture...



The jesus thing is a direct comment on Bush, who is a big admirer of Jesus. How many times have you asked me, directly, when discussing gay men, and a few other things, how I would explain it to my kids. Regardless, I never went off about that, in fact, I enegaged in those debates. and with that, everything else you wrote, is moot IMO. Until we get to this personal jab part, Dude, you asked me directly, if I gave rides to people going to the fair... That's a direct and personal question, about me, my job, the city and the fair... and yes, I post crass pics, all kinds, and take the shots. I can't look at the pics you posted, I don't get turned on by cocks... I have enjoyed rough sex, but the only cock involved was my own... There's all kinds of gay people, the ones in sweater the ones in leather and so on... WTF, do these fags have to do with torture? Except that when torturing, homophobes in Abu Graib, they made the men do gay stuff... You posted pics of fags... hahaha... and are telling me to rethink this... Tee to the Pee Pee!
10th October 2007 02:20 PM
Fiji Joe
quote:
pdog wrote:


The jesus thing is a direct comment on Bush, who is a big admirer of Jesus. How many times have you asked me, directly, when discussing gay men, and a few other things, how I would explain it to my kids. Regardless, I never went off about that, in fact, I enegaged in those debates. and with that, everything else you wrote, is moot IMO. Until we get to this personal jab part, Dude, you asked me directly, if I gave rides to people going to the fair... That's a direct and personal question, about me, my job, the city and the fair... and yes, I post crass pics, all kinds, and take the shots. I can't look at the pics you posted, I don't get turned on by cocks... I have enjoyed rough sex, but the only cock involved was my own... There's all kinds of gay people, the ones in sweater the ones in leather and so on... WTF, do these fags have to do with torture? Except that when torturing, homophobes in Abu Graib, they made the men do gay stuff... You posted pics of fags... hahaha... and are telling me to rethink this... Tee to the Pee Pee!



First...it's not "pics" I posted...It's the "pic" I posted...look closer...ask the person who posted the "pics" your questions...and as for the rest of the muddled circular shit you just posted, fuck it...you obviously didn't take the time to think about what I posted and I'm not going to be drawn into this crap you seem to be inviting...make your name against someone else...because I'm telling you...if you start this petty shit with me again, I'm going to light your ass up like a butt plug candle...none of this shit is anywhere near as serious (or personal) as you seem to want to make it
10th October 2007 02:26 PM
Riffhard
quote:
pdog wrote:
Riffy, we just hosted Fleet Week. That's a Week, not a one day fair! There was also a two day free concert in the park, huge btw. And we had the techno hippie Love Parade... and the few thousand Burning Man people who had one of their after parties, you wanna talk about freaks and idiots and people living a lifestyle, that I don't agree with!!! All I can say is, if all you see is gay, and if you think SF is subsidizing gay, then, you need to go to gay rehab, before you keep posting those gay pics, you're dancing on the edge of gayness, and the faggots are pulling you in, and you don't even realize it. Quick brother... Get some Nina Hartley porn before you start going to Broadway shows and redcorating your houses.




LOL! I hear ya pdog! Look I like San Fransisco as a city. I abhor many San Fran values though. This is the same city that told the military that they could not recruit in any public schools. They forbid the Marines from filming a commercial in the city streets (yet cock sucking is fine!). The city council tried, unsuccessfully, to block the Blue Angels from doing their air show last week. Yes, I know that Fleet Week was last week, but it is also true that the same city council that tried to block the Blue Angels also tried to end Fleet Week from happening in the future. There is one idiot in the city government that advocated the dissolution of the US military all together!

My point is simple. San Fran loves to flaunt their inclusiveness, but that inclusiveness only goes so far. If anyone advocates for the military they are called Chicken Hawks. If anyone dare speak up for Christian Values they are labeled Jesus Freaks/Bible Thumpers/Religious Right-Wing Freaks etc. If anyone speaks out about the immorality of the Folsom Street Fair they are labeled Homophobes! Forget the fact that these pictures show a blatant disregard for the law of the land!


So, like so many liberals, they only give a fuck about their own brand of inclusiveness. Which by definition is purely non-inclusive! Look at what they are now trying to do to Rush Limbaugh,Sean Hannity,and Mark Levin! Henry Waxman has now assigned his staffers to monitor their radio programs, and Pelosi is calling for a return to the "Fairness Doctrine"! Why? Because conservative talk radio is kicking the ever loving shit out of liberal talk radio! The one media medium that they don't control they are now desperately trying to reel in!


So now they want to censor it! Heaven forbid anyone talk about censoring tax funded art exhibits in which a crucifix is submerged in urine! I mean why should people get so upset about this?!




The people that were rightfully offended by this "piece of art" were lambasted as idiot bumpkins with no sense of what constitutes true art! Yet these same elitists assholes would never suggest that the same should be done with a statue of Mohammad! No! That would offensive, and show a lack of understanding of the great Muslim religion! Or, truth be told, they would rightfully be in fear for their lives should they attempt to try to molest a symbol of Islam like this.


If conservatives even hint at trying to withhold tax funds for this kind of blatant Christian baiting they are labeled "Neocon censors!"


So where are these people when the same thing is happening to private citizens like Rush,Sean,Mark,etc.? I'll tell ya where they are. They are on idiot web sites like Democratic Underground and Daily Kos applauding Waxman's censorship attempts!




Riffy



10th October 2007 02:55 PM
monkey_man
quote:
Riffhard wrote:
Look I like San Fransisco as a city. I abhor many San Fran values though.

My point is simple. San Fran loves to flaunt their inclusiveness, but that inclusiveness only goes so far. If anyone advocates for the military they are called Chicken Hawks. If anyone dare speak up for Christian Values they are labeled Jesus Freaks/Bible Thumpers/Religious Right-Wing Freaks etc.




Hey Riffy over 30% of this city attends a house of worship every week. To my knowledge all of these services go off without any one being attacked for their beliefs. Once again you are confusing the pundit mythology with the facts.

http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/demographics/sanfrancisco.html


quote:


If anyone speaks out about the immorality of the Folsom Street Fair they are labeled Homophobes! Forget the fact that these pictures show a blatant disregard for the law of the land!




What Federal laws are being broken at the Folsom Street Fair? These folks are consenting adults that choose to be tortured by their fellow freaks.
10th October 2007 02:56 PM
pdog
quote:
Fiji Joe wrote:


First...it's not "pics" I posted...It's the "pic" I posted...look closer...ask the person who posted the "pics" your questions...and as for the rest of the muddled circular shit you just posted, fuck it...you obviously didn't take the time to think about what I posted and I'm not going to be drawn into this crap you seem to be inviting...make your name against someone else...because I'm telling you...if you start this petty shit with me again, I'm going to light your ass up like a butt plug candle...none of this shit is anywhere near as serious (or personal) as you seem to want to make it



What's your point? What's the leather daddy BDSM connection to Govt. sanctioned torture? I've been joking about the gay thing... I think it's funny, I'm trying to get your point regardless... I never made it personal, you did, directly asking me about the fair regarding the pics of the fair. I'm not angry, and maybe your not, but it does seem as if you are... How did I make it personal, or did my response to your direct question, get taken as personal, when it was a personal question about me, regarding those pics? Is this the chicken and egg argument? If you're not mad then cool, but your words seem angry... For the record, i'm not angry.
10th October 2007 02:59 PM
pdog
quote:
Riffhard wrote:



LOL! I hear ya pdog! Look I like San Fransisco as a city. I abhor many San Fran values though. This is the same city that told the military that they could not recruit in any public schools. They forbid the Marines from filming a commercial in the city streets (yet cock sucking is fine!). The city council tried, unsuccessfully, to block the Blue Angels from doing their air show last week. Yes, I know that Fleet Week was last week, but it is also true that the same city council that tried to block the Blue Angels also tried to end Fleet Week from happening in the future. There is one idiot in the city government that advocated the dissolution of the US military all together!

My point is simple. San Fran loves to flaunt their inclusiveness, but that inclusiveness only goes so far. If anyone advocates for the military they are called Chicken Hawks. If anyone dare speak up for Christian Values they are labeled Jesus Freaks/Bible Thumpers/Religious Right-Wing Freaks etc. If anyone speaks out about the immorality of the Folsom Street Fair they are labeled Homophobes! Forget the fact that these pictures show a blatant disregard for the law of the land!


So, like so many liberals, they only give a fuck about their own brand of inclusiveness. Which by definition is purely non-inclusive! Look at what they are now trying to do to Rush Limbaugh,Sean Hannity,and Mark Levin! Henry Waxman has now assigned his staffers to monitor their radio programs, and Pelosi is calling for a return to the "Fairness Doctrine"! Why? Because conservative talk radio is kicking the ever loving shit out of liberal talk radio! The one media medium that they don't control they are now desperately trying to reel in!


So now they want to censor it! Heaven forbid anyone talk about censoring tax funded art exhibits in which a crucifix is submerged in urine! I mean why should people get so upset about this?!




The people that were rightfully offended by this "piece of art" were lambasted as idiot bumpkins with no sense of what constitutes true art! Yet these same elitists assholes would never suggest that the same should be done with a statue of Mohammad! No! That would offensive, and show a lack of understanding of the great Muslim religion! Or, truth be told, they would rightfully be in fear for their lives should they attempt to try to molest a symbol of Islam like this.


If conservatives even hint at trying to withhold tax funds for this kind of blatant Christian baiting they are labeled "Neocon censors!"


So where are these people when the same thing is happening to private citizens like Rush,Sean,Mark,etc.? I'll tell ya where they are. They are on idiot web sites like Democratic Underground and Daily Kos applauding Waxman's censorship attempts!




Riffy








My perspective is, that the people who are extreme in their views here, are really so closed to anything else, I wouldn't call them liberals, they are totalitarian and can't see past their own beliefs. so much so, that other liberal agendas aren't on their radar. This cuts both ways too. There's alot of extreme conservative stuff, that is closed to many Republican founding ideals.
Any liberal beliefs I have, shoudn't be included with them. And lumping all liberals with them is unfair. It's the big prolem, everyone on both sides is pulled into the label of the most extreme element of... I have core beliefs and I have hundreds of evolving opinions.
I'm pro gun, pro death penalty, all for killing unwanted kids ( joke), and I definitely beleive in less taxes, especially the bullshit income tax that takes 35% of my money, and does nothing with it for the country.
10th October 2007 03:18 PM
Fiji Joe
quote:
pdog wrote:


What's your point? What's the leather daddy BDSM connection to Govt. sanctioned torture? I've been joking about the gay thing... I think it's funny, I'm trying to get your point regardless... I never made it personal, you did, directly asking me about the fair regarding the pics of the fair. I'm not angry, and maybe your not, but it does seem as if you are... How did I make it personal, or did my response to your direct question, get taken as personal, when it was a personal question about me, regarding those pics? Is this the chicken and egg argument? If you're not mad then cool, but your words seem angry... For the record, i'm not angry.



My point IS...it was a joke...faggoty leather guy being whipped...i.e, torture...and as I said, every bit as funny (or non-funny) as your "Who would Jesus Torture?" joke...the point was to not be on point...read the posts that preceded mine...the point was not to take the bait and get into some BS political discussion based on some story that has jack shit to do with anything of substance or reality...but since you insist on making an issue of my joke, why don't you just go ahead and link your Jesus post to government sanctioned torture...I asked you about Folsom Street because you seemed suprised by the pics so I thought you weren't aware of where they were taken...simple as that...which is why I asked if you had ever given anyone a ride down there because you've mentioned on more than one occasion the bucks you make when these fag festivals are in town...and yeah I'm angry...because it seems to me you took what I posted as a personal attack...and for the life of me I can't see why you would think that...rationally, from what I posted, there's no reason for you to think that
10th October 2007 03:19 PM
Riffhard
quote:
monkey_man wrote:


Hey Riffy over 30% of this city attends a house of worship every week. To my knowledge all of these services go off without any one being attacked for their beliefs. Once again you are confusing the pundit mythology with the facts.

http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/demographics/sanfrancisco.html




What Federal laws are being broken at the Folsom Street Fair? These folks are consenting adults that choose to be tortured by their fellow freaks.




Hey MM I'm not confusing the pundit mythology with anything at all my friend. My point is that many liberals (not all mind you) feel there is nothing at all wrong with ridiculing Christianity and defiling it's religious imagery. This, to many liberals, shows that they are not bound by any nonsensical dogma. To them it proves that they are "progressive", but in truth it just proves that they are not at all concerned about offending the vast majority of Americans that do worship Christ. How very progressive of them!



As to what law they are breaking? Well for starters public indecency. They are also conducting in lewd and lascivious conduct on a public street. I can promise you this. If I were to go down on my girlfriend at the annual St. Patrick's Day Parade here in New Jersey I would get my ass hauled to jail toot sweet. Not in San Fran though! Sucking cock in open public streets is illegal period! Even in San Fran. While no federal laws may be broken. There are certainly state and city laws a plenty that were broken last week. They just won't enforce the laws because they don't want a riot in the Castro District. The gay inmates are in charge of the asylum in that city.


I just don't understand howe anyone could possibly defend or support this kind of shit going down on a public street! I don't give a fuck if it is in the heart of the Castro District! Why should someones sexual peccadilloes be on public display anywhere besides behind closed doors?! Because they are gay we should accept it?! Fuck that! Does that mean that straight people can fuck on the streets of a predominantly straight neighborhood? Of course not! Yet, again, in San Fran they just love to shove this shit down your throat! Literally! LOL! Be gay! See if I give a shit, but when these freaks go out of their way to intentionally offend (see cruicifix dildos,Virgin Mary ass plugs etc.) then they are stepping way way over the line. Again, howe can anyone defend this shit?!



Riffy
10th October 2007 03:24 PM
Fiji Joe
quote:
Riffhard wrote:

Hey MM I'm not confusing the pundit mythology with anything at all my friend. My point is that many liberals (not all mind you) feel there is nothing at all wrong with ridiculing Christianity and defiling it's religious imagery. This, to many liberals, shows that they are not bound by any nonsensical dogma. To them it proves that they are "progressive", but in truth it just proves that they are not at all concerned about offending the vast majority of Americans that do worship Christ. How very progressive of them!





That's the most coherent thing I've ever seen you post...who did you steal that from?
10th October 2007 03:41 PM
Riffhard
quote:
Fiji Joe wrote:


That's the most coherent thing I've ever seen you post...who did you steal that from?



Hell son I came up with that my damned self! I'm edjumacated ya know?!



Riffy
10th October 2007 03:41 PM
pdog
quote:
Fiji Joe wrote:


My point IS...it was a joke...faggoty leather guy being whipped...i.e, torture...and as I said, every bit as funny (or non-funny) as your "Who would Jesus Torture?" joke...the point was to not be on point...read the posts that preceded mine...the point was not to take the bait and get into some BS political discussion based on some story that has jack shit to do with anything of substance or reality...but since you insist on making an issue of my joke, why don't you just go ahead and link your Jesus post to government sanctioned torture...I asked you about Folsom Street because you seemed suprised by the pics so I thought you weren't aware of where they were taken...simple as that...which is why I asked if you had ever given anyone a ride down there because you've mentioned on more than one occasion the bucks you make when these fag festivals are in town...and yeah I'm angry...because it seems to me you took what I posted as a personal attack...and for the life of me I can't see why you would think that...rationally, from what I posted, there's no reason for you to think that



quote:
Fiji Joe wrote:
Jesus would torture the jews...cause payback's a bitch!



direct response to the jesus tee shirt torture pic... you know I'm a jew, was this personal?

quote:
Fiji Joe wrote:
In some cities, people consent to being tortured....caraaaazzzzzzyyyyyyyyyyyy


[Edited by Fiji Joe]



i responded holy crap to the first pic you posted, and then removed. Which only showed some leather daddy's with their cocks out. there was zero "torture" about the pic. The new pic shows a guy whipping another guy, and straight people do that too. So your point is what?

oh wait!!!

quote:
Fiji Joe wrote:


Holy crap?...it's your town...you never given anyone a ride to Folsom Street?

I had to remove the earlier picture...I didn't really look at it close enough before I posted it...now I gotta spend the rest of the day thinking happy thoughts



How does my job, the fair and what people do their even matter? It's my town... I have ownership. That's pretty personal, considering you are posting pics with dudes dicks out, even though now removed. Guess what homie, you posted a pic of a guys dick, gay guys dicks. If I happened to be the cabbie that took those guys down there, they weren't naked on the way. My town, hell yeah, and you posted their pics... i don't let naked people get in my cab... You looked for pics of them and posted them.
My town, and a cab ride vs. posting pics of naked gay men.... LOL!

If you posted your pics, in response to my jesus tee, then more power to you. Jesus and Bush and christian values are relevant to torture. discusiing allah dildos and posting those pics, I guess it's torture for you, since you had to do the research to get them, and it's something you abhor.
and if you're so bothered by the kid comment, then don't put ownership on, or make fun of a city I live in, where my kids live. you attack things, hoping it will be defended, and then act like you're attacked. How fucking convenient. I'm 100% certain, that posting pics of gay men, to make some point about a Jesus shirt, is gay. Very gay!
Take your high ground, and be all self righteous and make this debate about how offended you're so you can post about jews and make comments about gay people. It doesn't matter, this was about torture, which is what you're doing to yourself by posting pics of gay men, since I know you don't swing that way. That my friend is the most perplexing thing about this thread...
Jesus doesn't torture, you knew that right. He turns the other cheek.
10th October 2007 03:42 PM
monkey_man
quote:
Riffhard wrote:

Hey MM I'm not confusing the pundit mythology with anything at all my friend. My point is that many liberals (not all mind you) feel there is nothing at all wrong with ridiculing Christianity and defiling it's religious imagery. This, to many liberals, shows that they are not bound by any nonsensical dogma. To them it proves that they are "progressive", but in truth it just proves that they are not at all concerned about offending the vast majority of Americans that do worship Christ. How very progressive of them!



Or it proves that some dipshit artist was trying to make a name for himself by freaking people out. If it wasn't on TV would anyone care?


quote:


As to what law they are breaking? Well for starters public indecency. They are also conducting in lewd and lascivious conduct on a public street. I can promise you this. If I were to go down on my girlfriend at the annual St. Patrick's Day Parade here in New Jersey I would get my ass hauled to jail toot sweet.




Two Words. Mardi Gras.

quote:


Not in San Fran though! Sucking cock in open public streets is illegal period! Even in San Fran. While no federal laws may be broken. There are certainly state and city laws a plenty that were broken last week. They just won't enforce the laws because they don't want a riot in the Castro District. The gay inmates are in charge of the asylum in that city.




Folsom Street is not in the Castro (which does have many families in it). It is in a part of the city where there are mostly warehouses and nightclubs. It is not a place where a tourist will "accidently" stumble into this freakshow. In addition while you were perusing these indecent photos, you seem to have missed the many straight and lesbian women dressed for the occasion. Do these offend you as well? Personally, like most Americans, if there is something going on that I don't want to see, I don't go near it.


10th October 2007 03:49 PM
pdog
quote:
Riffhard wrote:



Hey MM I'm not confusing the pundit mythology with anything at all my friend. My point is that many liberals (not all mind you) feel there is nothing at all wrong with ridiculing Christianity and defiling it's religious imagery. This, to many liberals, shows that they are not bound by any nonsensical dogma. To them it proves that they are "progressive", but in truth it just proves that they are not at all concerned about offending the vast majority of Americans that do worship Christ. How very progressive of them!



As to what law they are breaking? Well for starters public indecency. They are also conducting in lewd and lascivious conduct on a public street. I can promise you this. If I were to go down on my girlfriend at the annual St. Patrick's Day Parade here in New Jersey I would get my ass hauled to jail toot sweet. Not in San Fran though! Sucking cock in open public streets is illegal period! Even in San Fran. While no federal laws may be broken. There are certainly state and city laws a plenty that were broken last week. They just won't enforce the laws because they don't want a riot in the Castro District. The gay inmates are in charge of the asylum in that city.


I just don't understand howe anyone could possibly defend or support this kind of shit going down on a public street! I don't give a fuck if it is in the heart of the Castro District! Why should someones sexual peccadilloes be on public display anywhere besides behind closed doors?! Because they are gay we should accept it?! Fuck that! Does that mean that straight people can fuck on the streets of a predominantly straight neighborhood? Of course not! Yet, again, in San Fran they just love to shove this shit down your throat! Literally! LOL! Be gay! See if I give a shit, but when these freaks go out of their way to intentionally offend (see cruicifix dildos,Virgin Mary ass plugs etc.) then they are stepping way way over the line. Again, howe can anyone defend this shit?!



Riffy



Are you asking MM to defend Folsom St Fair, something he doesn't agree with or particiapte in, in response to our govt. sponsoring torture, something he doesn't agree with or particiapte in...

You know it can't be done. i want you, to make the case for how having folsom Street Fair once a year, is going to make torturing people in faraway places, keep America safe...
I'm all ears!
10th October 2007 03:56 PM
Fiji Joe
quote:
Riffhard wrote:


Hell son I came up with that my damned self! I'm edjumacated ya know?!



Riffy



Beer is working wonders for you...keep drinking...and I'll keep reading
10th October 2007 04:07 PM
Riffhard
quote:
monkey_man wrote:


Or it proves that some dipshit artist was trying to make a name for himself by freaking people out. If it wasn't on TV would anyone care?




Valid point, but this still ignores the fact that when Christians do raise up in opposition to do this kind of "art", it is almost exclusively liberals that cry censorship. Even in the media this holds true. They then act as if the "Religious-Right" is being unjust and mean spirited about the freedom of artistic expression. Completely ignoring the fact that this is blasphemy to millions of Christians. Blasphemy means squat to these "artists" so long as there offensive crap makes headlines! Mind you it's almost always Christianity that is blasphemed. Never, under any circumstance, is it Islam!


quote:


Two Words. Mardi Gras.






I have been to Mardi Gras on three occasions in my life. It's true that many girls flash their tits, and I have even seen the occasional blow job administered by drunken sluts in a grungy back ally. However, this is not my point. Mardi Gras is not a celebration of any kind of sexual persuasion. It is not a city sponsored event that openly celebrates the glory of gay love. That is the thing which to me is so outrageous. Why should the gay community feel that it is so important to have a day where tax payers foot the bill for the on duty police officers,the street cleaning,the zoning ordanances,etc.,so that they can openly blow each other in public? Why does the city even go along with this shit?! To prove that San Fran is progressive?! What is the advantage of allowing a man to shove a dildo up his ass in public? Why are tax dollars used to subsidize this shit?!


quote:

Folsom Street is not in the Castro (which does have many families in it). It is in a part of the city where there are mostly warehouses and nightclubs. It is not a place where a tourist will "accidently" stumble into this freakshow. In addition while you were perusing these indecent photos, you seem to have missed the many straight and lesbian women dressed for the occasion. Do these offend you as well? Personally, like most Americans, if there is something going on that I don't want to see, I don't go near it.







This I did not know. However, it hardly matters. The law is still the law. To the best of my understanding San Fransico law is the same as most cities with regards to public indecency. Sure the Mardi Gras case could be argued, but so could "two wrongs don't make a right". The pictures that I have seen from the Folsom Street Fair are far far more shocking than anything I have seen form New Orleans.




Riffy
10th October 2007 04:12 PM
pdog
quote:
Riffhard wrote:
The pictures that I have seen from the Folsom Street Fair are far far more shocking than anything I have seen form New Orleans.
Riffy



10th October 2007 04:14 PM
Fiji Joe
quote:
pdog wrote:

direct response to the jesus tee shirt torture pic... you know I'm a jew, was this personal?




Yes...but not a personal attack...a reference to your jewness of which, given that you just made a comment that any lucid person would know stands a pretty good chance of touching on the personal beliefs of 90% of the American population, and roughly 10% of the members of this board, you should not be the least bit offended...in fact, you'd be a fool not to expect such a response and a bigger fool to then take offense to said response

As for the rest of what you posted...I said what is was and what it is...If you choose make more of it than what it is...so be it...I'm tired of this retarded nonsense...and NO...the use of the word "retarded" was not intended as an insult and is no way directed towards you personally...and at least as far as this thread is concerned, so there will be no further confusion between you and I, please apply the above disclaimer to the following words and terms:

Dickhead
Cocksucker
Psychotic fuckstick
Travis Bickel
Ass hat
Ass clown
Ass munch
Ass hole

and

Jo Jo the Dog Faced Boy

You ain't gonna nail me to the cross...I'll do it myself...just to deny you the pleasure



[Edited by Fiji Joe]
10th October 2007 04:23 PM
pdog
quote:
Fiji Joe wrote:


Yes...but not a personal attack...a reference to your jewness of which, given that you just made a comment that any lucid person would know stands a pretty good chance of touching on the personal beliefs of 90% of the American population, and roughly 10% of the members of this board, you should not be the least bit offended...in fact, you'd be a fool not to expect such a response and a bigger fool to then take offense to said response

As for the rest of what you posted...I said what is was and what it is...If you choose make more of it than what it is...so be it...I'm tired of this retarded nonsense...and NO...the use of the word "retarded" was not intended as an insult and is no way directed towards you personally...and at least as far as this thread is concerned, so there will be no further confusion between you and I, please apply the above disclaimer to the following words and terms:

Dickhead
Cocksucker
Psychotic fuckstick
Travis Bickel
Ass hat
Ass clown
Ass munch
Ass hole

and

Jo Jo the Dog Faced Boy

You ain't gonna nail me to the cross...I'll do it myself...just to deny you the pleasure







I was not, and never said I was offended...

How does Folsom Street Fair torture make us safer from terror?

How are we going to wash off the gayness of those pics...
[Edited by pdog]
10th October 2007 04:24 PM
monkey_man
quote:
Riffhard wrote




I have been to Mardi Gras on three occasions in my life. It's true that many girls flash their tits, and I have even seen the occasional blow job administered by drunken sluts in a grungy back ally. However, this is not my point. Mardi Gras is not a celebration of any kind of sexual persuasion. It is not a city sponsored event that openly celebrates the glory of gay love. That is the thing which to me is so outrageous. Why should the gay community feel that it is so important to have a day where tax payers foot the bill for the on duty police officers,the street cleaning,the zoning ordanances,etc.,so that they can openly blow each other in public? Why does the city even go along with this shit?! To prove that San Fran is progressive?! What is the advantage of allowing a man to shove a dildo up his ass in public? Why are tax dollars used to subsidize this shit?!



I imagine the city goes along with it because of the revenue it generates for the city. The fair brings in millions of dollars to the city via hotels and local merchants. The fair organizers pay for all the permitting and the cleanup afterwards. In addition, revenue generated by renting booths at the fair gets donated to local charities. http://folsomstreetevents.org/fair-beneficiaries.php

and look even members of the KISS Army show up . . .
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10th October 2007 04:32 PM
pdog
10th October 2007 04:36 PM
pdog
10th October 2007 04:37 PM
Fiji Joe
quote:
pdog wrote:



I was not, and never said I was offended...

How does Folsom Street Fair torture make us safer from terror?

How are we going to wash off the gayness of those pics...
[Edited by pdog]



What is it you cannot grasp?...I did not post "the pics"...and the one I did post, after I looked at it again this morning and saw what you saw, I removed and replaced with one more "family friendly"...without any prodding...and yes, the original pic did depict what I would call imagery of torture...two dudes on their knees being led around on a leash...they called that torture at Abu Gharib no?...the joke stands...and at least one person got it...and just so you know, there was no research and no calculated attempt to fuck with you...I didn't even know what this Folsom Street fag fest was until a week ago...but dude, it's all over the national news this week...so don't run around thinking and saying something that's pretty far removed from the truth...I'm not the one who turned this thread into a condemnation of grotesque public displays of faggottry...I'm not

You want wash off the gayness of those pics?...do your bouncing jugg thang...lord knows you got the material

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