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Moonisup wrote:


so when it's about muslims, isreal or whatever it's allowed in every single thread on the board, and now it's not?

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Moonisup wrote:


so when it's about muslims, isreal or whatever it's allowed in every single thread on the board, and now it's not?

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the good wrote:


so I guess I should just shut up.

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jb wrote:
Total humiliation...............

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texile wrote:
heritage rock?
it even sounds like a senior citizen's apartment complex.

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Mel Belli wrote:


Yes, but it's hype aimed at an older demographic that simply doesn't buy records like they used to. And when they do, it's Norah Jones and Rod Stewart singing standards.

Kids don't read newspapers anymore. So - boom - the exposure from print reviews is virtually useless.

Much of the hype is for the tour, which seems to be selling well to me, though I don't have access to your "sources."

Let's face it: Most of the world considers the Stones a nostalgia act. I - and about 150k others - don't think that's true, which is why we're the only ones buying the new CD.

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Ihavelotsajam wrote:
In any case, I think epople here are overly negative. It doesnt matter if the Stones' last album sells or not... We're living in a time where everything is so extremely subjective, yet the Stones are one of the few almost universally-lauded bands ever. That's as objectively "good" as you're ever gonna get...it really doesnt matter if ABB sells or not.

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Moonisup wrote:


it was just a cynical joke, there are a few who understand it. But some peepz over here can't take one. They can say, yeah fuck the muslims etc.
Someone over here said something about the Tsunami when it hit that is just was a muslim country. Oh just kill the muslims, and all that shit. And with most threads about hate, and fuck this, fuck that, I was just thinking: Let's turn it around, let's make a (pretty sick, yeah I know it's sick) joke about this. and see: no one can take it That says nothing about me, but just a little bit more about you all, you just can't imagine a different world outside your own little circle. there are lots of examples wich I won't post here cos this ain't a political board, but your reaction on me, well, I don't care.
Where were you when they said this about the Tsunami? The people in Darfur?

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Riffhard wrote:


Mel that is spot on analysis my friend. Working in radio I can tell you that it is very hard to get kids to listen to a band that they consider their parents music. When complete rubbish like Greenday are considered hip by today's youth market it's very hard to sell the Stones. This is the corner that the Stones have painted themselves into by,in Pete Townshend's words,"not growing up gracefully".

The fact is that rock and roll,or what is left of it,is a young man's game. I am personally happy that the Stones are still out there doing it by their own rules,and not falling into the middle-of-the-road/adult contemporary shit trap that Rod Stewart,Clapton,and others have trode down. So while some may bitch about the later day Stones' record success,I choose to think differently about it all. The way I see it the Stones are constantly pushing the limits of just what they can do,while not compromising their music for the sake of growing up. I like that attitude.

The Stones still consistantly put more asses in the seats than any band out there. Regardless of what Josh may say the facts are simple. A Rolling Stones' concert is still considered an event as much as it is a concert. They consistanly bring stadiums of people to their collective feet,and I know of no other band that can do that. Jagger maybe 62 years old,but he works an audience better than any other performer out there. The funny thing is that nobody else is even close to Jagger in this ability. Keith Richards may be an older arthritis wrecked image of his former self,but he still commands cool like no other. Again,nobody is even in the same league as Keith on this score. Nobody,nada,zippo! Keef owns cool! He always has. It's his image that young guitar players have been copying for years now. Yet,he is the originator,and cannot be duplicated. It's ironic that Chaz has always had this very non-rock star quality about himself that has managed to make him one of the coolest rockstars ever! Not to mention that he is "the only white drummer with swing" according to Keith. The greatest timekeeper in the history of rock nad roll,and he reeks rockstar class all the while remaining aloof.

Peter Tosh once sang,"You don't miss the water till the well runs dry". How true is that? Some here can bitch and moan all they want about lackluster album sales,lame assed tunes,high ticket prices,and on,and on,and on. At the end of their very long ride though the Stones will be missed by everyone,and they will be hailed as the greatest rock and roll band ever,and though we may already know this to be true,many will be missing the Stonsian water supply!


It's starting to wind down folks. Find other things to bitch about. The Stones have already given us forty three years of rock and roll bliss,and no other band will ever be able to say that again. Not one.


"So I'm gonna get my kicks in before the whole shithouse goes up in flames!"-Jim Morrison



Riffhard

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The only problem with low sales of ABB is that it will not encourage Mick to make another one anytime soon. What would be really be nice is if they gave us a new one NEXT year without saying they would and didn't in 1994, and 2002. It seems all these songs were written so effortelessly at least by Mick, he's got another in him.

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Exactly....the low sales is what probably caused the last 8 yr wait..and they don't have 8 more yrs....

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Moonisup wrote:


joshy, good news

ABB is # 1 in holland
SOL in # 9, weak sales

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chevysales wrote:


now that is very well put.

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the good wrote:


Let me ask you something, moonisup, do you have hurricanes in your country? Do you have any idea what a category 4 hurricane can do, especially if it strikes a major city? No you don't, because where you live there is no such thing as extreme weather.

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glencar wrote:
I'm trying to recall who on this board said that it was just a Muslim country when the tsunami hit.

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Mr Jimmy wrote:


Careful... Much of Holland is situated below sea level and in 1953 their dyke/levee system was breached by a storm surge from the North Sea that resulted in catastrophic flooding. The official death toll in Holland was 1,835.

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Riffhard wrote:


Mel that is spot on analysis my friend. Working in radio I can tell you that it is very hard to get kids to listen to a band that they consider their parents music. When complete rubbish like Greenday are considered hip by today's youth market it's very hard to sell the Stones. This is the corner that the Stones have painted themselves into by,in Pete Townshend's words,"not growing up gracefully".

The fact is that rock and roll,or what is left of it,is a young man's game. I am personally happy that the Stones are still out there doing it by their own rules,and not falling into the middle-of-the-road/adult contemporary shit trap that Rod Stewart,Clapton,and others have trode down. So while some may bitch about the later day Stones' record success,I choose to think differently about it all. The way I see it the Stones are constantly pushing the limits of just what they can do,while not compromising their music for the sake of growing up. I like that attitude.

The Stones still consistantly put more asses in the seats than any band out there. Regardless of what Josh may say the facts are simple. A Rolling Stones' concert is still considered an event as much as it is a concert. They consistanly bring stadiums of people to their collective feet,and I know of no other band that can do that. Jagger maybe 62 years old,but he works an audience better than any other performer out there. The funny thing is that nobody else is even close to Jagger in this ability. Keith Richards may be an older arthritis wrecked image of his former self,but he still commands cool like no other. Again,nobody is even in the same league as Keith on this score. Nobody,nada,zippo! Keef owns cool! He always has. It's his image that young guitar players have been copying for years now. Yet,he is the originator,and cannot be duplicated. It's ironic that Chaz has always had this very non-rock star quality about himself that has managed to make him one of the coolest rockstars ever! Not to mention that he is "the only white drummer with swing" according to Keith. The greatest timekeeper in the history of rock nad roll,and he reeks rockstar class all the while remaining aloof.

Peter Tosh once sang,"You don't miss the water till the well runs dry". How true is that? Some here can bitch and moan all they want about lackluster album sales,lame assed tunes,high ticket prices,and on,and on,and on. At the end of their very long ride though the Stones will be missed by everyone,and they will be hailed as the greatest rock and roll band ever,and though we may already know this to be true,many will be missing the Stonsian water supply!


It's starting to wind down folks. Find other things to bitch about. The Stones have already given us forty three years of rock and roll bliss,and no other band will ever be able to say that again. Not one.


"So I'm gonna get my kicks in before the whole shithouse goes up in flames!"-Jim Morrison



Riffhard

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texile wrote:


some sad truths that we, as stones fans.....should at least be honest about; very good post riff.....

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glencar wrote:
I'm trying to recall who on this board said that it was just a Muslim country when the tsunami hit. Were they a regular poster & was this really your reason or sort of an afterthought?

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