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| polksalad69 |
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Happy Motherfucker!! wrote:
The King Rules!
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| Honky Tonk Man |
This is a tough one. In terms as a performer on stage, The 50's Elvis wins hands down. He caused absoloute moral outrage across America with his hip shakin' antics on tv.
I think Mick is great, there is no one who can strut their stuff like him, but I'm FAR more of a Stones fan than a Mick fan.
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| not bound to please |
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parmeda wrote:
Undoubtedly, Elvis is the King.
And for what it's worth...and for as much as I adore Mick...having the pleasure to see Elvis only once, and having seen Mick a gazzillion times...nobody, and I mean NOBODY, puts an audience in a crazed frenzy as Elvis did.
I have yet to attend any concert, or event, that was not audible for the first 10-15 minutes due to non-stop hysterical screaming.
Well, that's hardly a measure. I'm sure you can say the same about any current boy band. The Stones have never really attracted that sort of weirdness on a large scale. Even when Mick was dressing like Carmen Miranda in the mid 70's.
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| Bloozehound |
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not bound to please wrote:
Well, that's hardly a measure. I'm sure you can say the same about any current boy band. The Stones have never really attracted that sort of weirdness on a large scale. Even when Mick was dressing like Carmen Miranda in the mid 70's.
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| F505 |
Another difference is that Elvis attracts fans and imitators of all kinds of social layers including people of a very low social background... These people don't buy Stones-records. |
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| not bound to please |
I'd have to say the Stones physical influence resonated /s more quietly, but perhaps deeper. Anyone trying to look like vintage Elvis or Beatles, for instance is obviously being affected, posturing, going for a "look". The early Stones style blended in, infiltrating the general culture.
None of them (E, B, S, and Sinatra) were originals. They took bits and pieces and created their own chimaeras. The Stones sort of blended the scruffy bohemian with 19th century romanticism. They were more based in an identifiable history, not as jarring or "original" seeming, hence the appearance of not being as influential. Perhaps.
Aesthetically, the Stones are better artists. The Beatles are over rated based upon nostalgia and cultural impact. Not to say they don't come in at a close third after Dylan. Or the Stones, but definately third in my not so humble opinion. There is a difference. Elvis was a hell of a singer and performer, and one hell of a great bad movie actor - but he never created beyond interpretation, and well...just BEING Elvis.
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| not bound to please |
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Bloozehound wrote:
Rummy have you ever heard Mick talk about the "teenies" and their high shreiks.
I said "large scale"
The superblow thread here proves they still have some of that sort of following.
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| Bloozehound |
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F505 wrote:
Another difference is that Elvis attracts fans and imitators of all kinds of social layers including people of a very low social background... These people don't buy Stones-records.
Now that's just plain arrogant and silly to say. I can assure you their fans come from all walks of life. |
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| Snappy McJack |
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not bound to please wrote:
I said "large scale"
The superblow thread here proves they still have some of that sort of following.
Has Joey rented "1 Night In Paris" yet? |
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| F505 |
AND he never wrote songs, he is only a performer. |
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| not bound to please |
Where is Joey this morning? Josh is kicking his arse with post totals.
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| F505 |
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Bloozehound wrote:
Now that's just plain arrogant and silly to say. I can assure you their fans come from all walks of life.
Why arrogant? I didn't make a value judgement. |
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F505 wrote:
Another difference is that Elvis attracts fans and imitators of all kinds of social layers including people of a very low social background... These people don't buy Stones-records.
"...a very low social background..." ?
Uh yes you did. |
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| Bloozehound |
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F505 wrote:
AND he never wrote songs, he is only a performer.
I don't recall the Stones writing much of their own material on their first few albums, but they sure could do wonders with others material. I guess these albums shouldn't count, since they didn't write "Carol" "Not Fade Away" "Time is on my side" "little red rooster" |
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| Bloozehound |
All that beautiful slide work by Brian on "Little REd Rooster" all lost, cuz they didn't write the song, such a pity  |
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| F505 |
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Bloozehound wrote:
"...a very low social background..." ?
Uh yes you did.
Sorry I didn't, it was just a plain observation. Maybe I am wrong in my observation but I didn't say anything negative about people with a very low social background did I? Unless you think that admiring Elvis is something inferior. But that's not my opinion! |
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F505 wrote:
Another difference is that Elvis attracts fans and imitators of all kinds of social layers including people of a very low social background... These people don't buy Stones-records.
You imply that people of "low social background" (aka fans of Elvis) "don't buy Stones-records" and this is nothing but an ignorant and arrogant "value judgement" based on your opinion.
Who are you to judge fans based on social background ? Are you an official ? Show me some credentials then.
How the fuck do you know who buys what ?
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F505 wrote:
Sorry I didn't, it was just a plain observation. Maybe I am wrong in my observation but I didn't say anything negative about people with a very low social background did I? Unless you think that admiring Elvis is something inferior. But that's not my opinion!
You're wrong and your pompous observation was nothing but a value judgement & you're now exposing your guilty conscience over it. I corrected you, fans of both Elvis and the Stones come from all social backgrounds, high to low and back again.
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| jb |
Elvis played the West Palm Beach Auditoriun in 77 and I tremember the excitement of him coming to our town....his sheets were auctioned for a charity the next day. |
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| F505 |
Bloozehound you just wanna fight. Go ahead but without me... |
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| Ten Thousand Motels |
Wow, some very interesting and informed observations here. Quite an enjoyable read. It's funny too because I was fully baked on booze when I posted it originally. |
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| jb |
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Ten Thousand Motels wrote:
Wow, some very interesting and informed observations here. Quite an enjoyable read. It's funny too because I was fully baked on booze when I posted it originally.
Where is Joey? |
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| Ten Thousand Motels |
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jb wrote:
Where is Joey?
Working???? |
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| jb |
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Ten Thousand Motels wrote:
Working????
But he always posts from work...I'm worried. |
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| Ten Thousand Motels |
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jb wrote:
But he always posts from work...I'm worried.
He's just probably back logged. I get that way quite often. Especially after drinking beers and frittering away time on the internet. |
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Ten Thousand Motels wrote:
He's just probably back logged. I get that way quite often. Especially after drinking beers and frittering away time on the internet.
I hope that's all it is....I know he was taking friday off..I expected back this morning ... |
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jb wrote:
Where is Joey?
Here I Is !!!!!
Two colleagues on Vacatuion this week !
Friggin Bummer ......Means more work for the Joester !
" The Kid has got this Friday Off AGAIN Ronnie ! "
Burcee ! |
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| F505 |
there was a rumour you were fired  |
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| Ten Thousand Motels |
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Joey wrote:
Two colleagues on Vacatuion this week !
Friggin Bummer ......Means more work for the Joester !
Yeah, BUT does anyone actually work at your office? |
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| F505 |
Is there actually an office? |
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