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Jeep wrote:
A show from 1982 in Akron, Ohio.
Excellent soundboard (mp3) :
http://www.captainsdead.com/2008/02/20/we-finally-got-enough-people-for-a-seven-mile-spanking-machine/
Thanks for the link, Jeep |
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I was never into punk but I always thought highly of The Clash. They had the potential to be as big as the Stones. But they didn't understand you have to do the business part of the job. And they couldn't get along. |
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| BILL PERKS |
THE RAMONES ABSOLUTELY BLOW DOG
THEY ARE NOT IN THE SAME HEMISPHERE WITH THE CLASH |
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BILL PERKS wrote:
THE RAMONES ABSOLUTELY BLOW DOG
THEY ARE NOT IN THE SAME HEMISPHERE WITH THE CLASH
"Clash"? Isn't that a movie? |
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BONOISLOVE wrote:
"Clash"? Isn't that a movie?
BONOISLOVE?
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quote:
Glimmer Twin wrote:
I was never into punk but I always thought highly of The Clash. They had the potential to be as big as the Stones. But they didn't understand you have to do the business part of the job. And they couldn't get along.
They DID understand. They were just idealistically trying to battle it. And did so quite successfully. |
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mrhipfl wrote:
The Ramones came pretty damn close, though.
imo
I love the Ramones and saw them at Irving Plaza, 1980. But they never wrote a song that can stand with a Stones song, or coverd a song as good as a Stones cover choice. The Clash came a lot closer to the Stones quality-wise, and certainly surpassed them in the political department. |
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Glimmer Twin wrote:
I was never into punk but I always thought highly of The Clash. They had the potential to be as big as the Stones. But they didn't understand you have to do the business part of the job. And they couldn't get along.
The big self-destructive Clash problem, the issue that disabled them from surfing the commercial/non-commercial waves and troughs, was that Strummer was too pigheaded a rocker to keep putting up with Jones's multiculti influences. It's why he disappeared from one of the later Clash Euro tours for days - bigotry against Jonesy's songs.
"Cut the Crap" shows how wrong and how shortsighted Strummer was, and how threatened he felt. It's a wasted, shaming album that reveals how threadbare his mind had become in the struggle for dominance. A crying shame, as neither Strummer or Jones ever did again anything equal to what they did together, and - after the fine first Big Audio Dynamite album - what they did produce was pathetic, unlistenable piffle.
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Left Shoe Shuffle wrote:
I love 'Sandinista!'.
Yeah, it's sprawling, but imo the CD release made it infinitely more accessible than the original three LP's.
Meh? Next!
Maybe some of the dub stuff could've been 86'd, and it peters out at the end, but hey, they wanted to put it all out there. Cheap.
And besides, 'Broadway' alone makes it worth owning.
That was the big competition album between Strummer and Jones. Strummer hated Jones's non-rocking songs, tape experiments, etc. So every long, pointless Strummer track on there (and I don't mean the wonderful Broadway) was meant as a rebuke to what Strummer saw as those tendencies in Jones - and to be fair, not every Jones dub on there is great.
I think there's four good sides out of six on the LP version. But the hateful competition factor, largely a Strummer product, was projected onto their dissatisfaction with Epic Records, thus forcing all six sides on us. Truly, a guerilla war with only phyrric victory at its end.
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