| 24th February 2006 08:13 AM |
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| Gazza |
BRUCE GETS FOLKED UP
New album & tour on the horizon, as Springsteen readies collection of Pete Seeger covers
As of early 2005 and throughout the year, Springsteen's plan (according to Conventional Wisdom, inside sources, little birdies and the like) seemed to be this: the solo album and tour that was Devils & Dust, to be followed by an E Street album and tour in 2006. As all of us Springsteen followers know, his plans have a way of changing. Now, it appears that E Street activity (at one time, they were scheduled to be in the studio this very minute) has been put on hold, as Springsteen prepares another solo album for release this spring. Tentatively titled The Seeger Sessions, this new collection of folk covers has yet to be officially announced or confirmed. But with a due-date locking in for roughly one year after the April 26, 2005 release of Devils & Dust, we expect an announcement to be imminent.
That's Seeger as in Pete, not Seger as in Bob; much as we'd love to see Bruce's take on "Ramblin' Gamblin' Man" committed to tape, we're looking at a collection of songs either written by, associated with, or popularized by the folk legend. It's in the tradition of albums like Merle Haggard's A Tribute to the Best Damn Fiddle Player in the World: Or, My Salute to Bob Wills, or heck, even 1968's Pete Seeger Sings Woody Guthrie. Though never in full-album form, Springsteen has recorded salutes to his folk forefathers before, his takes on Guthrie songs appearing on Folkways: A Vision Shared ("Vigilante Man"), 'Til We Outnumber 'Em ("Plane Wreck at Los Gatos (Deportee)," "Riding in My Car," ) and his own Live/1975-'85 ("This Land is Your Land"). He's released one Pete Seeger tribute already, as well: "We Shall Overcome" was recorded for the 1998 collection Where Have All the Flowers Gone: The Songs of Pete Seeger (see Backstreets #58, page 9) and received renewed interest in the days after September 11, 2001. Though the seeds of Springsteen's forthcoming album can probably be traced back to that '98 release, sources tell Backstreets that sessions with NY/NJ-based musicians have occurred much more recently; Rolling Stone reports today that "Springsteen is likely to hit the studio once more" before the record is done.
And while we'll point out once again that none of this is set in stone, at the moment a two-month, small-market tour is in the planning stages for the late spring, with Springsteen to be accompanied by a group of musicians from the record. Watch here for more as we know it.
-February 23, 2006
www.backstreets.com
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| 24th February 2006 09:43 AM |
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| Martha |
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| 24th February 2006 12:50 PM |
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quote:
Gazza wrote:
BRUCE GETS FOLKED UP
New album & tour on the horizon, as Springsteen readies collection of Pete Seeger covers
Man....Bruce has his finger on the pulse of America. Nothing gets America excited as much as prickly old communist folk singers.
Hell, _I_ don't even like Pete Seeger, never having forgiven him for the axe incident at Newport. |
| 24th February 2006 12:59 PM |
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| glencar |
I played one of his songs last weekend & the creaky socialists I was with absolutely hated it! |
| 24th February 2006 01:07 PM |
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| nanatod |
IMO it would be more interesting to see Pete Seeger do an album of Springsteen covers. Or to see Southside Johnny and the Asbury Jukes cover either Seeger or Springsteen.
Except for "Darlington County" and a couple of songs on Greetings, I wince every time I here Springsteen these days. His music, especially the "radio hits" just sounds too dated. |
| 24th February 2006 01:10 PM |
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nanatod wrote:
IMO it would be more interesting to see Pete Seeger do an album of Springsteen covers. Or to see Southside Johnny and the Asbury Jukes cover either Seeger or Springsteen.
Except for "Darlington County" and a couple of songs on Greetings, I wince every time I here Springsteen these days. His music, especially the "radio hits" just sounds too dated.
I know what you mean, I always liked "Spirit In the Night" though. |
| 24th February 2006 01:11 PM |
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| nanatod |
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Break The Spell wrote:
I know what you mean, I always liked "Spirit In the Night" though.
I meant the goofy songs from Greetings like Mary Queen of Arkansas and the one about the busdriver. |
| 24th February 2006 01:12 PM |
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| Break The Spell |
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nanatod wrote:
I meant the goofy songs from Greetings like Mary Queen of Arkansas and the one about the busdriver.
I'll have to dig it out and play it now, its been ages since I played any springsteen on my freewill. |
| 24th February 2006 01:33 PM |
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| glencar |
His 9-11 CD was quite good. I think Devils & Dust is not as good. |
| 24th February 2006 01:47 PM |
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glencar wrote:
His 9-11 CD was quite good. I think Devils & Dust is not as good.
"The Rising" was ok, I've yet to hear "Devils and Dust". |
| 24th February 2006 07:15 PM |
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via expectingrain.com
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Dylan, Springsteen Prep New CDs
Both legends are hitting the studio, launching tours
Bob Dylan and Bruce Springsteen are both planning new albums for 2006 -- and each will likely launch a tour as well. Dylan has just begun work on his thirty-first studio disc, and Springsteen is wrapping up his first-ever CD of cover songs, focusing on music from the repertoire of folk icon Pete Seeger.
On January 31st, Dylan arrived at the Bardavon 1869 Opera House in Poughkeepsie, New York, with his current touring band. For the next four days, according to Bardavon's executive director, Chris Silva, the band rehearsed new material. "It was experimental, all kinds of different licks," Silva told the Poughkeepsie Journal. "They would get into one thing, and they would go over it and over it. Then they would change gears."
Dylan -- who kicks off a tour on April 1st in Reno, Nevada, that will include a performance at the New Orleans Jazz and Heritage Festival later that month -- then moved the operation to Manhattan to lay down his new tunes. His previous studio album, 2001's acclaimed Love and Theft, was also cut in New York, in just two and a half weeks at Sony Music Studios, with Dylan producing under the name Jack Frost.
Meanwhile, sources familiar with the Springsteen project say that he has nearly completed his covers album, which has the working title The Seeger Sessions and will include both Seeger-penned tunes and American standards the folk patriarch helped popularize. Seeger, 86, is the author of folk classics such as "If I Had a Hammer" and "Where Have All the Flowers Gone?"
One source says that this project began in 1998, when Springsteen recorded the protest anthem "We Shall Overcome" for the Seeger tribute album Where Have All the Flowers Gone? There have been two recording sessions since, and Springsteen is likely to hit the studio once more.
On the new disc, Springsteen is backed by a small group featuring his wife, Patti Scialfa, E Street Band violinist Soozie Tyrell and other New Jersey musicians playing largely traditional folk instruments like mandolin and banjo. "The Tom Joad tour [from 1995 to 1997] helped me realize I like to play a lot of different ways," Springsteen told Rolling Stone last year. "I love playing with the E Street Band, I love playing by myself, and at some point I'll probably stumble onto something that might work for a small band." The album is due out in May, and Springsteen is planning to tour this spring, backed by the musicians who recorded the disc.
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| 24th February 2006 07:19 PM |
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| glencar |
I'm sure it's been posted already but there's an upcoming Springsteen DVD release from the Hammersmith Odeon 1975. |
| 24th February 2006 07:55 PM |
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| Gazza |
Sort of...the DVD has been out for a few months - it came as a part of the "Born To Run" 30th anniversary boxed set - which included the CD of the album, a DVD of the Hammersmith show from 18.11.75 (recorded for BBC but never broadcast, and only half of which had ever circulated) plus a "Making of Born To Run" DVD
Sony are releasing a two-disc CD of the Hammersmith show on Monday. Hopefully its just the first of a series of archive shows.... |
| 25th February 2006 03:24 AM |
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| Child of the Moon |
I'll buy it. |
| 25th February 2006 03:26 AM |
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Gazza wrote:
Sort of...the DVD has been out for a few months - it came as a part of the "Born To Run" 30th anniversary boxed set - which included the CD of the album, a DVD of the Hammersmith show from 18.11.75 (recorded for BBC but never broadcast, and only half of which had ever circulated) plus a "Making of Born To Run" DVD
Sony are releasing a two-disc CD of the Hammersmith show on Monday. Hopefully its just the first of a series of archive shows....
The Odeon show is AMAZING. Had I actually been there in 1975, it would have been the greatest show I'd ever seen. Honestly, half-way into the show - 8 songs, actually - I had to pause it and catch my breath. I was that blown away. I can't wait to buy the soundtrack, especially for those insane versions of Spirit in the Night, Kitty's Back, Saint in the City, Jungleland... hell, the whole show! |
| 25th February 2006 03:29 AM |
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quote:
nanatod wrote:
IMO it would be more interesting to see Pete Seeger do an album of Springsteen covers. Or to see Southside Johnny and the Asbury Jukes cover either Seeger or Springsteen.
Except for "Darlington County" and a couple of songs on Greetings, I wince every time I here Springsteen these days. His music, especially the "radio hits" just sounds too dated.
And one more from me...
I LOVE Mary Queen of Arkansas. I know that one gets a lot of flak, and I just can't understand that. I enjoy the hell out of it. |
| 25th February 2006 07:18 AM |
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| IanBillen |
Springteen turned lame. Then he got pretty good again on The Rising.
Besides here is my take on the guy:
I just could never dig him. Always thought he was OK I suppose but was very, very, over rated. Around 85 it was like Bruce Springteen fever in the States. I was like "Bruce Springteen?" ....."You mean the 70's dude", "Born to Run song and that bit", "Well, what is this new fixation? out of nowwhere?". Before that he had a great album or two back in the 70's and that was it. I just kinda viewed it like it was Peter Frampton and now everyone is suddenly going bonkers over him or something to that effect? Sure Born in The USA is a great song I guess.The album, although too poppy for my taste at times is also a heck of an album for what it was. I just didn't get the big buzz. I mean think about it. Let's just say Born in The USA never happened. Let's just say Bruce never did that album. Well he would basically be forgotten. Nothing he has done since (except The Rising) was of any real notable mention. I just never got it.
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| 25th February 2006 08:00 AM |
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Ian, you slay me. Especially the Peter Frampton reference.
(By the way, that was my favorite album when I was 13. "I wan choo . . .") |
| 25th February 2006 01:46 PM |
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IanBillen wrote:
Springteen turned lame. Then he got pretty good again on The Rising.
Besides here is my take on the guy:
I just could never dig him. Always thought he was OK I suppose but was very, very, over rated. Around 85 it was like Bruce Springteen fever in the States. I was like "Bruce Springteen?" ....."You mean the 70's dude", "Born to Run song and that bit", "Well, what is this new fixation? out of nowwhere?". Before that he had a great album or two back in the 70's and that was it. I just kinda viewed it like it was Peter Frampton and now everyone is suddenly going bonkers over him or something to that effect? Sure Born in The USA is a great song I guess.The album, although too poppy for my taste at times is also a heck of an album for what it was. I just didn't get the big buzz. I mean think about it. Let's just say Born in The USA never happened. Let's just say Bruce never did that album. Well he would basically be forgotten. Nothing he has done since (except The Rising) was of any real notable mention. I just never got it.
Ian
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(Born In The USA is one of the weakest albums Springsteen ever did btw. And most of us who were into his music BEFORE that thought so at the time...) |
| 25th February 2006 01:49 PM |
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Child of the Moon wrote:
The Odeon show is AMAZING. Had I actually been there in 1975, it would have been the greatest show I'd ever seen. Honestly, half-way into the show - 8 songs, actually - I had to pause it and catch my breath. I was that blown away. I can't wait to buy the soundtrack, especially for those insane versions of Spirit in the Night, Kitty's Back, Saint in the City, Jungleland... hell, the whole show!
and to think that at the time, that show was so overhyped that the band themselves were deflated at their performance.
When you strip away the hype and just look at it from the perspective purely as a concert, its a terrific gig.
The show he played on his return to the same venue 6 days later is actually far superior, however. Now, if theyd filmed and released THAT one....
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| 25th February 2006 05:03 PM |
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[quote]Gazza wrote:
(Born In The USA is one of the weakest albums Springsteen ever did btw. And most of us who were into his music BEFORE that thought so at the time...)
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Gazza,
You may not like BITUSA but the album itself was anything but weak. It had sell me written all over it. You may of not dug the style, but it wasn't weak. It spawned many hits:
*Besides,
Why do you care so much about some bloke who whines all the time about
blue collar Americans and some of the latter day hardships in the USA?
You're from the UK right. If I were you, I'd be like who gives a rats ass...I'm
tired of hearin this dude whine.
However,
I will make an exception....Glory Days rocks. I do love that tune man.
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| 25th February 2006 05:11 PM |
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| glencar |
You know, there's an edit button that you should use after every post, dumbass. |
| 25th February 2006 05:13 PM |
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IanBillen wrote:
Gazza,
You may not like BITUSA but the album itself was anything but weak. It had sell me written all over it. You may of not dug the style, but it wasn't weak. It spawned many hits:
I didnt say it was weak...I said it was one of his weakest efforts. Springsteen has never made a weak album. BITUSA would have been a better album had he used the best songs instead of the more commercial, radio friendly MOR ones. I could make a list of 12 songs that he left off the album which would blow away the 12 that he DID choose.
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*Besides,
Why do you care so much about some bloke who whines all the time about
blue collar Americans and some of the latter day hardships in the USA?
You're from the UK right. If I were you, I'd be like who gives a rats ass...I'm
tired of hearin this dude whine.
Yeah, but thankfully, you're NOT like me.
You show up your complete ignorance of the guy's music if you sum it up in such simplistic terms. That really is an idiotic statement even by your standards. Maybe I appreciate it because it touches me on a certain emotional level, as most good music should do, and because perhaps I'm cultured enough to appreciate it. By your yardstick, why should you give a rats ass about a few Englishmen playing black American music that you would never have otherwise been exposed to? If the Stones can appreciate music from another culture, then shouldnt I be able to..? If you cant grasp that, thats your problem.
Not mine.
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| 25th February 2006 05:14 PM |
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| glencar |
IanBillen has standards? |
| 25th February 2006 06:12 PM |
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quote:
Gazza wrote:
BRUCE GETS FOLKED UP
New album & tour on the horizon, as Springsteen readies collection of Pete Seeger covers
As of early 2005 and throughout the year, Springsteen's plan (according to Conventional Wisdom, inside sources, little birdies and the like) seemed to be this: the solo album and tour that was Devils & Dust, to be followed by an E Street album and tour in 2006. As all of us Springsteen followers know, his plans have a way of changing. Now, it appears that E Street activity (at one time, they were scheduled to be in the studio this very minute) has been put on hold, as Springsteen prepares another solo album for release this spring. Tentatively titled The Seeger Sessions, this new collection of folk covers has yet to be officially announced or confirmed. But with a due-date locking in for roughly one year after the April 26, 2005 release of Devils & Dust, we expect an announcement to be imminent.
That's Seeger as in Pete, not Seger as in Bob; much as we'd love to see Bruce's take on "Ramblin' Gamblin' Man" committed to tape, we're looking at a collection of songs either written by, associated with, or popularized by the folk legend. It's in the tradition of albums like Merle Haggard's A Tribute to the Best Damn Fiddle Player in the World: Or, My Salute to Bob Wills, or heck, even 1968's Pete Seeger Sings Woody Guthrie. Though never in full-album form, Springsteen has recorded salutes to his folk forefathers before, his takes on Guthrie songs appearing on Folkways: A Vision Shared ("Vigilante Man"), 'Til We Outnumber 'Em ("Plane Wreck at Los Gatos (Deportee)," "Riding in My Car," ) and his own Live/1975-'85 ("This Land is Your Land"). He's released one Pete Seeger tribute already, as well: "We Shall Overcome" was recorded for the 1998 collection Where Have All the Flowers Gone: The Songs of Pete Seeger (see Backstreets #58, page 9) and received renewed interest in the days after September 11, 2001. Though the seeds of Springsteen's forthcoming album can probably be traced back to that '98 release, sources tell Backstreets that sessions with NY/NJ-based musicians have occurred much more recently; Rolling Stone reports today that "Springsteen is likely to hit the studio once more" before the record is done.
And while we'll point out once again that none of this is set in stone, at the moment a two-month, small-market tour is in the planning stages for the late spring, with Springsteen to be accompanied by a group of musicians from the record. Watch here for more as we know it.
-February 23, 2006
www.backstreets.com
Along with U2 and Sting, Springsteen is in the definitive Top Ten List Of Self Righteous Douchebag Musicians, delusional with self-importance. I loathe the man. |
| 25th February 2006 10:22 PM |
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"Yeah, but thankfully, you're NOT like me.
You show up your complete ignorance of the guy's music if you sum it up in such simplistic terms. That really is an idiotic statement even by your standards. Maybe I appreciate it because it touches me on a certain emotional level, as most good music should do, and because perhaps I'm cultured enough to appreciate it. By your yardstick, why should you give a rats ass about a few Englishmen playing black American music that you would never have otherwise been exposed to? If the Stones can appreciate music from another culture, then shouldnt I be able to..? If you cant grasp that, thats your problem.
Not mine."
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Geeze Gazza....who lit the wick on your tampon this weekend?
I understand you like the music and it moves you emotionally. That is cool. And your right, that is what music is all about. I am just tired of theme groups and theme artists. U2 (who I am not nuts over anyway), is in a sense a theme group/political group. In a sense they are. About the only group I really dug that had an entire theme to their music was Rage Against The Machine. Bruces who persona has a theme tied to it. Whether you like it or not that is the way it is. Now to me, his music just doesn't drive me. I'll be honest, if it did I'd dig him. And you are right. It is all about the music and how it makes you feel. I just could care less about what the dude always crams down my throat.
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Gazza Also Wrote:
"I appreciate it because it touches me on a certain emotional level, as most good music should do, and because perhaps I'm cultured enough to appreciate it."
Fuck, I am from, and grew up in a mill working town if there ever was one. Youngstown, Ohio. (See Bruces song titled: Youngstown. I figure you know it right?)
My Father worked in a mill for years and both my Grandfathers retired from the mills. And yes two of them shut down and left my one granfather short on pension. I don't whine about it ever and I was way more involved in that scene than that yoke ever was from what I have read... So as far as "cultured" as you put it. Well now, in this instance that is a nice way of saying "ahhh yeah, how deep and tragic. I totally understand where your coming from" .....I do not have to be cultured on this one Gazza. I lived it.
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As far as Bruce. I will give him this.
A:He gives it all in his performance. I appreciate that.
B. He writes good songs
C. He knows his fan base
His music just doesn't do it for me. Has nothing to do with...."culture" as you put it. The Stones music does do it for me. Rages Music and The Stones does. To be honest, I never though Bruce was that special. That's all I'm really trying to say. And as far as The Broken Heart of America Crap.....Geez, that sure as hell isn't getting any newer.
Ian
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| 25th February 2006 10:27 PM |
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| glencar |
Goddam but you're stupid. I mean, really stupid. |
| 25th February 2006 11:20 PM |
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IanBillen wrote:
>Geeze Gazza....who lit the wick on your tampon this weekend?
Ian. Blow it out your ass.
>I understand you like the music and it moves you emotionally. That is cool. And your right, that is what music is all about. I am just tired of theme groups and theme artists. U2 (who I am not nuts over anyway), is in a sense a theme group/political group.
No theyre not!!
> In a sense they are. About the only group I really dug that had an entire theme to their music was Rage Against The Machine. Bruces who persona has a theme tied to it. Whether you like it or not that is the way it is.
No. It doesnt. Its NEVER been like that to ME, I see a lot more depth to it than that. Its the "way it is" because YOU choose to see it in such narrow terms. I dont, so as one's personal experience of any music is subjective, then your opinion is wrong in my view. It doesnt have a 'theme' tied to it. Listen to his early stuff. Listen to Ghost of Tom Joad. Completely different.
> Now to me, his music just doesn't drive me. I'll be honest, if it did I'd dig him. And you are right. It is all about the music and how it makes you feel. I just could care less about what the dude always crams down my throat.
you have an off button on your radio I presume?
>My Father worked in a mill for years and both my Grandfathers retired from the mills. And yes two of them shut down and left my one granfather short on pension. I don't whine about it ever and I was way more involved in that scene than that yoke ever was from what I have read... So as far as "cultured" as you put it. Well now, in this instance that is a nice way of saying "ahhh yeah, how deep and tragic. I totally understand where your coming from" .....I do not have to be cultured on this one Gazza. I lived it.
Right..so THAT makes YOU better qualified to judge someones music because of your geographical location - even more so than someone who actually LISTENS to it?
You missed my point entirely (surprise). You had a pop at me for being into a form of music supposedly far removed from where I happen to come from (its not that far removed anyway...musical themes can be universal, not necessarily tied to geography). The example I threw back at YOU is that you like an English band who play(ed) black american blues music. I couldnt give a flying fuck whether you or anyone likes Bruce Springsteen or not (if it doesnt move you..fine.. I do however find it hard to take seriously a debate on quality music from a Bon Jovi fan, but thats another argument  ) - I dont get antsy when I hear of Americans liking Van Morrison just because they havent lived in my neighbourhood. Good songwriting should be universal. It obviously is with the Stones. As you may have noticed, there are people from all nations and cultures and backgrounds on THIS board who seem to get whats magical about them - and many of them dont have English as their first language either.
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| 26th February 2006 12:42 AM |
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Bruce Springsteen puts out more effort and gives you more for your money than any musicial group out there. Anyone can talk as poorly about hte man as they want. I will say this though, you will never meet any professionally accomplished musician who is nicer. Also, you will never see a better value than Bruce Springsteen. $75 for floor seats to see him and the E Street Band. When was the last time the Stones offered you floor seats up front for under $100. Oh right, before Ronnie Wood joined the band (I know I'm off by some years). The point is where the Stones charge $450 for two hours of rock and roll up front. Bruce is giving you three hours of rock for $75 and more energy as well. Believe it or not, it's fact. Also, I would recommend Devils and Dust to anyone who likes folk music even slightly. It is a great album and his solo tour was amazing. I personally saw three of the best shows I've ever seen, on that tour.
Oh and about that Greetings from Asbury Park comment that was made, that album is awesome as is that song about the bus driver or for any Bruce fan "Does This Bus Stop at 82nd Street?". |
| 26th February 2006 01:54 AM |
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Gazza,
U2 ARE in a sense a political band. They make many more political songs than most bands do. Hell, even Vertigo, their last big hit was originally an anti-gun song.
Thank goodness their producer, Steve Lilywhite, talked them out of doin alot of politics on this album. So they had to change Vertigo's lyrics all together. He had some sense and knew people were growing tired of it.....especially Bono, always trying to be Mr. Greenpeace.
Anyway,
Everyone I think you are COMPLETELY WRONG about what folks think of when they hear, ot think of Bruce Springsteen. They think=Totaly American....singing about American blue Collar hardship. That is fact. He is labled with that image now.
Only thing is Bruce tries to sell himself as that. He tries too much for my taste. The "BOSS" and all that crap.... it seems more like a publicity machine than anything authentic.
He just aint my style. He IS talented. You won't get me to say he's not. I just don't like what he trys to cram down everyones throat. And yes, that is what he rings.....American Blue Collar sad Stories and Hardship. It is almost here anyway, if you like Bruce Sprinsteen or are a big fan of his you gotta be a mill grunt coming from a mill grunt family. Now there is nothing wrong with that...(hell who am I to talk) but it is almost a way of life rather than just digging the guys tunes. That is what I just don't go for, much. Nothing eles. As far as the music....it just aint my gig.
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