| 26th January 2007 10:41 AM |
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| Gazza |
I know a lot of you dont look at the Bit Torrent thread as you either cant or dont use them, which is the reason for this post.
Last weekend, I managed to unearth 18 early mixes of 11 of the songs which were released on 'A Bigger Bang' and GotToRollMe has kindly uploaded them to gigasize for everyone to download. As they're mp3 sourced, we cant put them on the tracker, but they're something most fans will want to get.
here are the links :
http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/322269/01__Let_Me_Down_Slow.mp3
http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/322289/02__It_Wont_Take_Long.mp3
http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/322300/03__Streets_Of_Love.mp3
http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/322305/04__She_Saw_Me_Coming.mp3
http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/322309/05__Biggest_Mistake.mp3
http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/322313/06__This_Place_Is_Empty.mp3
http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/322328/07__Oh_No_Not_You_Again.mp3
http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/322331/08__Dangerous_Beauty.mp3
http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/322335/09__Driving_Too_Fast.mp3
http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/322342/10__Dont_Wanna_Go_Home.mp3
http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/322344/11__Under_The_Radar.mp3
http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/322351/12__Let_Me_Down_Slow.mp3
http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/322353/13__Let_Me_Down_Slow.mp3
http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/322362/14__It_Wont_Take_Long.mp3
http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/322367/15__Streets_Of_Love.mp3
http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/322373/16__Dangerous_Beauty.mp3
http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/322378/17__Dont_Wanna_Go_Home.mp3
http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/322386/18__Dont_Wanna_Go_Home.mp3
Original link to the info on the material here :
http://www.novogate.com/board/968/233708-7.html
If the link to the mp3's dont work, you can try Urban Steel's post on IORR as he has kindly upload them over there for us as well.
http://www.iorr.org/talk/read.php?2,634228
I think JumpinKentFlash has posted the link on shidoobee as well (cant access it from my work pc, unfortunately) so most people should have access to the files easily enough.
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| 26th January 2007 11:01 AM |
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| PartyDoll MEG |
Thanks Gazza for your ever-vigilante quest to unearth these gems!!
Didn't get to listen to all of the album last night, but after hearing "It won't take Long" and "Biggest Mistake", it was obvious that these were different mixes. And thanks GTRM, for uploading them for us all...
[Edited by PartyDoll MEG] |
| 26th January 2007 11:05 AM |
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| speedfreakjive |
thanks for the post Gazza - but I am unsure of how it works exactly - I enter the code to download, and it counts down the download time, but then nothing has seemingly been downloaded - any clues to why this is, it could be me not reading it properly |
| 26th January 2007 11:07 AM |
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| PartyDoll MEG |
quote:
speedfreakjive wrote:
thanks for the post Gazza - but I am unsure of how it works exactly - I enter the code to download, and it counts down the download time, but then nothing has seemingly been downloaded - any clues to why this is, it could be me not reading it properly
After the countdown is completed, you should get a message to "click to download" |
| 26th January 2007 11:17 AM |
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| gimmekeef |
Thanks to Gazza and GTRM for the heads up and links etc.Some of the downloads you might have to try a time or two..but they will eventually work...Done in Mick's house but leaked?....interesting to find source....only 100 d'l's so far.. |
| 26th January 2007 11:19 AM |
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| speedfreakjive |
got it, cheers PDM |
| 26th January 2007 11:23 AM |
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| speedfreakjive |
i have to say the two that i've heard so far have been very similar to the masters |
| 26th January 2007 11:25 AM |
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| steel driving hammer |
Deep thanks Gazza.
It will 1st time listening to these too btw. |
| 26th January 2007 11:32 AM |
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| Gazza |
quote:
speedfreakjive wrote:
i have to say the two that i've heard so far have been very similar to the masters
well theyre all the same takes, so the differences are quite subtle. Just longer in some cases (check out Dangerous beauty and Biggest Mistake) and the mix is a bit different. I think the mix is a bit rawer than the 'cleaner' album mixes. Took me a few listens for it for some of the differences to kick in, but theyre definitely there.
I dont have as keen an 'audiophile' ear for these things as some do, so the main problem I have is discerning the difference between the various alternate mixes as some of the songs appear 2 or 3 times.
[Edited by Gazza] |
| 26th January 2007 11:58 AM |
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| steel driving hammer |
Is the sound distorted?
Sounds distorted on the Latitude.
Shit.
Seems this always happens to me! |
| 26th January 2007 12:11 PM |
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| GotToRollMe |
Don't know if there's a download cap on Gigasize - don't think so, but anyway - here are some fresh links:
http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/324235/01__Let_Me_Down_Slow.mp3
http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/324243/02__It_Wont_Take_Long.mp3
http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/324245/03__Streets_Of_Love.mp3
http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/324249/04__She_Saw_Me_Coming.mp3
http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/324252/05__Biggest_Mistake.mp3
http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/324262/06__This_Place_Is_Empty.mp3
http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/324265/07__Oh_No_Not_You_Again.mp3
http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/324270/08__Dangerous_Beauty.mp3
http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/324277/09__Driving_Too_Fast.mp3
http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/324284/10__Dont_Wanna_Go_Home.mp3
http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/324285/11__Under_The_Radar.mp3
http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/324289/12__Let_Me_Down_Slow.mp3
http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/324296/13__Let_Me_Down_Slow.mp3
http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/324300/14__It_Wont_Take_Long.mp3
http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/324302/15__Streets_Of_Love.mp3
http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/324306/16__Dangerous_Beauty.mp3
http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/324310/17__Dont_Wanna_Go_Home.mp3
http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/324314/18__Dont_Wanna_Go_Home.mp3
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| 26th January 2007 12:21 PM |
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| speedfreakjive |
Keith's solo on Dangerous Beauty is not half as good as on the master |
| 26th January 2007 12:42 PM |
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| Some Guy |
That is the very first time I have heard under the radar. I like it! |
| 26th January 2007 02:26 PM |
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| pdog |
Even for ABB, this stuff always gets me excited... |
| 26th January 2007 02:34 PM |
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| Fiji Joe |
Good work Gazza... |
| 26th January 2007 03:29 PM |
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| Nellcote |
Wicked Pissa!
Thanks to GTRM & Gazza.
I always enjoy the different mixes... |
| 26th January 2007 04:03 PM |
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| pdog |
it will be really sweet when we get these in wav file... |
| 26th January 2007 04:04 PM |
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| mrhipfl |
the versions of "we don't wanna go home" are killer. There's something special about this song. |
| 26th January 2007 04:06 PM |
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| pdog |
quote:
mrhipfl wrote:
the versions of "we don't wanna go home" are killer. There's something special about this song.
I thought the two songs left off ABB, where the better of anything on the album itself... |
| 26th January 2007 05:17 PM |
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| Gazza |
The timings of the tracks - with the length of the official release in brackets
1. Let Me Down Slow #1 - 4:17 - (4:16)
2. It Won't Take Long #1 - 4:12 - (3:54)
3. Streets of Love #1 - 5:10 - (5:10)
4. She Saw Me Coming - 3:22 - (3:12)
5. Biggest Mistake - 4:53 - (4:06) !!
6. This Place Is Empty - 3:16 - (3:16)
7. Oh No, Not You Again - 3:48 - (3:46)
8. Dangerous Beauty #1 - 4:14 - (3:48)
9. Driving Too Fast - 4:29 - (3:56)
10. Don't Wanna Go Home #1 - 4:33 - (3:32) !!!
11. Under The Radar - 5:09 - (4:32)
12. Let Me Down Slow #2 - 4:16 - (4:16)
13. Let Me Down Slow #3 - 4:17 - (4:16)
14. It Won't Take Long #2 - 4:12 - (3:54)
15. Streets Of Love #2 - 5:09 - (5:10)
16. Dangerous Beauty #2 - 4:15 - (3:48)
17. Don't Wanna Go Home #2 - 4:32 - (3:32)
18. Don't Wanna Go Home #3 - 4:33 - (3:32)
So, there you go..substantial edits in several of the songs ranging from a whopping minute extra of 'Don't Wanna Go Home', 47 seconds from 'Biggest Mistake, 37 seconds from 'Under the radar', 33 seconds from 'Driving Too Fast', 27 seconds from 'Dangerous Beauty', 18 seconds from 'It Wont take long', 10 from 'she saw me coming' down to a couple of seconds (or less) from some others
If there's a second differencen in the time between each of the mixes and the official release , its probably not an edit at all. And the various mixes of each song are basically the same length as each other too.
I'd be interested if anyone can tell of any significant differences they can find between each of the mixes of the songs which appear more than once. |
| 26th January 2007 05:36 PM |
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| pdog |
quote:
Gazza wrote:
I'd be interested if anyone can tell of any significant differences they can find between each of the mixes of the songs which appear more than once.
I was hoping to do a pepsi challenge later... |
| 26th January 2007 06:39 PM |
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| charlotte |
Thanks to GTRM & Gazza for the detailed information..good work |
| 26th January 2007 06:43 PM |
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| gimmekeef |
There doesnt appear from first listen any vocal changes of note.Mostly from my ears its rougher guitar mix...yet ever so slight..Prefer the ONNYA version here to the official one....Wonder if any totally unrealeased will surface? |
| 26th January 2007 07:16 PM |
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| Gazza |
quote:
gimmekeef wrote:
There doesnt appear from first listen any vocal changes of note.Mostly from my ears its rougher guitar mix...yet ever so slight..Prefer the ONNYA version here to the official one....Wonder if any totally unrealeased will surface?
Its the same takes. Theyre different mixes, not different takes. There are some vocal changes in that there are some ad-libs here and there that have been edited out. I noticed Keith's backing vocal on 'wanna go home' higher in the mix too, amongst other things.
There arent any unreleased songs from the sessions. They used all 18 songs that they completed, so all you can hope for are alternate takes. With so much of the album being recorded in a private residence (La Fourchette) that may be a bit much to expect. Unless one of Woody's kids sells the tapes again, as happened with the Voodoo Lounge stuff
[Edited by Gazza] |
| 26th January 2007 07:25 PM |
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| Nellcote |
I've only listed to two, however, not knowing any of the times, I picked up on Biggest Mistake, a possible different vocal inflection on a part of SOL, Don't Wanna Go Home is nitty, gritty....Thanks again, I think this stuff is the balls...
BTW, I never knew the story about the Voodoo Sessions..I thought it was some disgruntled studio chap, wow, one of the Woodster's sons....wtf? |
| 26th January 2007 09:46 PM |
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| Gazza |
I just contacted the guy who I got these from and the story is that he was temporarily working in a place about 18 months ago in New York which shared a storage facility with Sterling Sound, where the album was being mastered.
He was going through their server one day, saw a file marked 'Rolling Stones' and, being a fan of their music yet not to the degree where hes ever seen them live, was curious enough to make a copy on an AIFF File. This was before the album was released, of course.(July '05, we figured out between us).
Asked him if the lossless version still existed and he said that they didnt. He had some storage problems a while ago, and so they were lost. Fortunately he still had the mp3's however, so theres NO prospect of the uncompressed versions of these surfacing it seems.
Passed on a thanks on behalf of the Stones online community - he was pleased he was able to share it with us.
[Edited by Gazza] |
| 26th January 2007 09:51 PM |
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| Nellcote |
Inspector Gazza hits the three point shot!
Cheers! |
| 26th January 2007 11:50 PM |
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| Taptrick |
links appear down currently
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| 27th January 2007 10:52 AM |
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| gimmekeef |
Well lets hope Ronnie was a Scrooge this Xmas and didnt take care of his kids...maybe then we'll get some Voodoo like outtakes! |
| 27th January 2007 10:57 AM |
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| Gazza |
quote:
Nellcote wrote:
BTW, I never knew the story about the Voodoo Sessions..I thought it was some disgruntled studio chap, wow, one of the Woodster's sons....wtf?
apparently so. Thats what I read. (I think Mathijs could confirm it)
Then again - I'm sure youre familiar with the much-bootlegged Dirty Work sessions (the first tape which included Invitation, Strictly Memphis, Baby Youre Too Much etc) - I had a low generation tape of that by early 1987, well over a year before it ended up on any bootleg LPs. And the indirect source of the tape was Mr Wood himself, it seems.
The difference is though that it appears he gave them to a fan in LA - and didnt sell the tapes to a bootlegger |
