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�01/04/2004��17:44:27�EST
Willie Nelson Debuts Anti-War Ballad
Willie Nelson has premiered his new anti-war ballad at an Austin fund-raising concert for Democratic presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich.
"(Nelson) brought down the house," said Kucinich's media coordinator Susan Mainzer of the Saturday performance. "People were on their feet applauding."
Nelson has said he wrote "What Ever Happened to Peace on Earth" on Christmas Day at the Lake Elsinore, Calif., home of his in-laws.
"There was nothing but bad news, and here it was Christmas Day," Nelson told the Austin American-Statesman last month. "I said, 'There sure are a lot of babies dying and mothers crying,' and (wife) Annie said, 'That sounds like a song.'"
The song asks questions such as, "How much oil is a human life worth?"
It is the second protest song Nelson has written. He often performed his Vietnam-era protest song, "Jimmy's Road," at peace rallies during the 1991 Gulf War.
Kucinich's two-day tour through Austin started Friday. At a Capitol rally Saturday, Kucinich told several hundred people that ending combat in Iraq is among his highest goals.
Asked if his new song might cause a backlash with conservative country music fans, Nelson said, "I sure hope so. I don't care if people say, 'Who the hell does he think he is?' I know who I am."
Last spring, Dixie Chicks singer Natalie Maines' criticism of President Bush led to boycotts of the group's music.
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On the Net:
Willie Nelson home page: http://www.willienelson.com
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| Larry Dallas |
Martha,
Is Willie in danger of Toby Keith or Travis Tritt questioning his "patriotism?" I'll bet they back off now because they would be messing with Willie.
Note to anyone, if you're considering burning your Willie Nelson records and cds, I'll take them. |
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| Taptrick |
Well while Willie was depressed on xmas day just about 50 miles from my home - I was about 200 miles north of him having a great time in 6 inches of snow. I love Milk Cow Blues but don't really want to waste my time with Willie's personal intellectual struggles. |
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| Ten Thousand Motels |
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Larry Dallas wrote:
Is Willie in danger of Toby Keith or Travis Tritt questioning his "patriotism?" I'll bet they back off now because they would be messing with Willie.
Yeah, no one messes with Willie. Except the IRS. And he'd better be careful because Presidents like to sick the IRS on critics. |
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Well while Willie was depressed on xmas day just about 50 miles from my home - I was about 200 miles north of him having a great time in 6 inches of snow. I love Milk Cow Blues but don't really want to waste my time with Willie's personal intellectual struggles.
I think your flippant response goes a long way to explain how america got as fucked up as it is. "I don't want to know the truth, because the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show is on TV." It's not personal, and it's not intellectual - it speaks for a lot of us, and speaks from the gut.
By the way, I haven't heard the song yet, but here are the lyrics:
What Ever Happened To Peace On Earth
There�s so many things going on in the world
Babies dying
Mothers crying
How much oil is one human life worth
And what ever happened to peace on earth
We believe everything that they tell us
They�re gonna� kill us
So we gotta� kill them first
But I remember a commandment
Thou shall not kill
How much is that soldier�s life worth
And whatever happened to peace on earth
(Bridge)
And the bewildered herd is still believing
Everything we�ve been told from our birth
Hell they won�t lie to me
Not on my own damn TV
But how much is a liar's word worth
And whatever happened to peace on earth
So I guess it�s just
Do unto others before they do it to you
Let�s just kill em� all and let God sort em� out
Is this what God wants us to do
(Repeat Bridge)
And the bewildered herd is still believing
Everything we�ve been told from our birth
Hell they won�t lie to me
Not on my own damn TV
But how much is a liar's word worth
And whatever happened to peace on earth
Now you probably won�t hear this on your radio
Probably not on your local TV
But if there�s a time, and if you�re ever so inclined
You can always hear it from me
How much is one picker�s word worth
And whatever happened to peace on earth
But don�t confuse caring for weakness
You can�t put that label on me
The truth is my weapon of mass protection
And I believe truth sets you free
(Bridge)
And the bewildered herd is still believing
Everything we�ve been told from our birth
Hell they won�t lie to me
Not on my own damn TV
But how much is a liar's word worth
And whatever happened to peace on earth
words by Willie Nelson
Christmas Day, 2003
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I believe you would fit into the "Bewildered Herd".
I can't wait to see the reaction to this - although it seems to have already been glossed over. It really makes The Dixie Chicks' "unpatriotic" statement seem pretty innocent. Will Toby Keith challenge Willie to a wrasslin' match?
The most cogent part of the lyrics - Bush's war is being sold on the basis of being God's Will, As Told To George W. Bush in his nightly discussions with The Almighty. And any IDIOT can see that there's NOTHING in the Christian credo which says "Strike Them Before They Strike You". In fact, isn't it exactly the OPPOSITE of that?
If, for instance, instead of spending billions blowing up Iraq and then hunkering down with our wagons in a circle in the ruins while W's frat brothers grow fat from war profits, we were concerned about humanitarian relief for the earthquake victims of Iran - THAT would be a truly "Christian" act. But like most "organized" religion, calling on God's blessing for murder is just more hypocrisy. I'd have a little more respect for W if he started mentioning his true god, Mammon, in his fumbling, stumbling public pronouncements.
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The above is purely the opinion of Fleabit Peanut Monkey and does not reflect the beliefs of Rocks Off or the C10. |
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| glencar |
Gee, I thought "bewildered herd" was a reference to anyone who supported Dennis Kucinich. This song will be glossed over because Willie Nelson is 70 & he has been. No one cares. The rest of your post about Bush's frat brothers getting fat on Iraq is too absurd to spend time on. Politics is fast becoming a paranoid pasttime in this country. |
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| Martha |
Larry, I think Willie answered that when he says:
Asked if his new song might cause a backlash with conservative country music fans, Nelson said, "I sure hope so. I don't care if people say, 'Who the hell does he think he is?' I know who I am."
RIght on!
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| FPM C10 |
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Gee, I thought "bewildered herd" was a reference to anyone who supported Dennis Kucinich. This song will be glossed over because Willie Nelson is 70 & he has been. No one cares. The rest of your post about Bush's frat brothers getting fat on Iraq is too absurd to spend time on. Politics is fast becoming a paranoid pasttime in this country.
What a typical reaction. "You're paranoid!"
Us left-wingers have been trained not to use the word "conspiracy" - the whole stinking mess with Cheney being Sec'y of War (let's call a spade a spade), farming out billions to Halliburton, then becoming CEO of Halliburton with NO previous experience, then becoming VP, pushing for an unjust war in which his old company gets billions in no-bid contracts, and then gouges the tax payers on GASOLINE - and the administration's response is "SO????" - yes, all of that is just a COINCIDENCE. That this whole load of soulless oil men suddenly cares deeply about the Iraqi people, but NOT the oil they sit on...exactly who is being absurd here?
If you think nobody cares about Willie Nelson, you're seriously mistaken. (You might start with his buddy Keith Richards, but then who cares about him either?)The only person close to him in the hearts of grass-roots Americans was Johnny Cash, and of course, he's dead. It was easy to write off the Dixie Chicks, even though they were only stating a personal opinion, because they suck. I think Willie's song will make at least a few people think.
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| glencar |
Willie will make people "think"? Parroting soemone else's theories isn't thinking. I know you don't agree with me but to assign me or other conservatives to a "bewildered herd" smacks of emotional fascism. No matter how we arrived at our ideas, we're weak because we buy the lies that Karl Rove tells us, right? I've read so much of that BS over the past decade that I've started "glossing over" it.
Politically, I've been all over the map. I've been moderately conservative now for about 15 years. Where have you been? Ever read magazines/books from a different viewpoint? Ever challenge your own beliefs? Ever listen to Limbaugh or anyone who's to the right of Noam Chomsky?
As for the Dixie Chicks, one reason so many disrespected them (besides the bad singing) was they went overseas & said something that they'd never, ever have said over here. And then when it engendered a HUGE backlash, they ran crying to corporate partner Entertainment Weekly about how free speech was threatened. |
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| throbby |
Mr. Chomsky may inhabit one end of the spectrum. I do think you'd be hard pressed to find many to the right of him speaking as openly about the motivations of the American political/industrial/military machine. I don't care if one hails from the "right" or the "left". As long as they have the balls to publicly call a spade a spade.
One thing I could never understand is the statement "they hate us for our freedom". I've never hated someone for being free, have you? Follow that logic to its end and see where it takes you.
Surely George Orwell was a prophet. |
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Surely George Orwell was a prophet.
agreed throbby
i heartily recommend you all read his essay "politics and the english language" - even if you've already done so - do it again |
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| FPM C10 |
>Willie will make people "think"? Parroting soemone else's theories isn't thinking.
Well, since none of US are IN Iraq, or the White House, or Halliburton, we are ALL "parroting soemone else's theories". I meant that a LOT of Americans take what they see on Fox News as the truth, and these same people don't give a fuck what Susan Sarandon says, but are quite likely to stop and think for a minute if Willie says it.
>I know you don't agree with me but to assign me or other conservatives to a "bewildered herd" smacks of emotional fascism.
I didn't. Stop being paranoid! I did that to taptrick, who was more interested in his own ski holiday than thinking about this issue. I have no idea if he's a "conservative" or not. But I do know that the original title for "Armed Forces" was "Emotional Fascism".
I think what Willie is saying with the "Bewildered Herd" line is this: if you believe that the war in Iraq is justified on the grounds of WMDs, links to Al Quieda, or the theory that Saddam posed an immediate threat to one American life (except for the ones W sent over there to die)then you have been lied to and should be mad as hell. The ones who support W because he says he's born-again, even though his war spits in the eye of Christ's teachings.
>No matter how we arrived at our ideas, we're weak because we buy the lies that Karl Rove tells us, right?
Well, whoever it is that has his hand up that George W Bush sock puppet's ass. Is that Karl Rove? Whoever made up all the lies I mentioned above.
>I've read so much of that BS over the past decade that I've started "glossing over" it.
Yeah, that can be a problem, when you adhere to a flawed political philosophy. "Don't confuse me with the facts - I've got my mind made up."
>Politically, I've been all over the map. I've been moderately conservative now for about 15 years. Where have you been? Ever read magazines/books from a different viewpoint? Ever challenge your own beliefs? Ever listen to Limbaugh or anyone who's to the right of Noam Chomsky?
Well, I think you assuming that I haven't is emotionally fascistic! What the fuck does listening to RUSH LIMBAUGH have to do with anything? I think perhaps you need to find a new mouthpiece.
Actually, I DO challenge my own beliefs, and continually discover that I actually DO believe them. I have Fox News on at my house a lot - does that count for anything? My friends always express concern, but I say: gotta keep an eye on the enemy!
If you're "moderately conservative", how can you support Bush?
>As for the Dixie Chicks, one reason so many disrespected them (besides the bad singing) was they went overseas & said something that they'd never, ever have said over here. And then when it engendered a HUGE backlash, they ran crying to corporate partner Entertainment Weekly about how free speech was threatened.
They were in the ONLY country that supported our unjustified war. They were in London, not North Vietnam. And speaking one's mind is the most American thing one can do. I would imagine they WERE embarrassed to be from Texas - Bush has made me deeply ashamed to be from America on many occasions. And the whole "if you don't agree with the war you're a terrorist" thing IS a threat to free speech.
Boy, I don't even know where to begin with the post that thinks we're in trouble because we're SOCIALISTS. If we were socialists I'd have health insurance.
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FPM WROTE: "I think your flippant response goes a long way to explain how america got as fucked up as it is. "I don't want to know the truth, because the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show is on TV." It's not personal, and it's not intellectual - it speaks for a lot of us, and speaks from the gut."
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Your assumption is wrong. You believe to know my politics when you do not. I prefer to keep my music and politics separate. I am disappointed in Willie. I think music has more direct emotional levels to appeal to in uniting people than using direct political discourse in a musical forum (I prefer the Taj Mahal approach). Likewise, I understand I'm not going to change anyone's politics in a Rolling Stones fan site and choose to expatiate those ideas in a different forum. What was it you "did" to me? I'm not sure I noticed.
"What can a poor boy do?
Cept to sing for a rock n roll band
Cause in sleepy London town,
There's no place for Street Fighting man"
[Edited by Taptrick]
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| glencar |
First off, 35 countries supported us in the war against Iraq. I myself wasn't a supporter until Colin Powell amde his speech at the UN. I figured if he's on board, it's worth doing. As a moderate conservative, Bush is the only one I support at this time. I live in fear of what the Dims will do if they take back the WH. I don't support the POTUS on several issues(the environment, the DP) but what's the alternative? Dean is the only one of that crowd who's shown consistency & he's a bit raw for my taste.
Emotional Fascism was the original title for AF? LOL I knew it somewhere in the recesses of my mind. I'm sorry that you inferred that I thought you hadn't changed your opinions over the years. It was an open question. As for Limbaugh, I rarely listen to him. But he has lead a sea change in this country & you should give him a listen once in a while if only for the "listening to the enemy" part.
Even though I'm not in the WH, I can form theories about our actions across the globe. I think President Bush came into office unsteadily internationally & I think he's found his way. Libya has seen the light & I expect others to follow shortly. As for health insurance & socialism, was that in my post? I didn't see it in my original post. |
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This song will be glossed over because Willie Nelson is 70 & he has been. No one cares.
I have to disagree here. Willie still plays nearly 150 shows a year and has two Grammy nods in the Country Album of the Year category. Willie Nelson will NEVER be a "has been." As I have said before, years after all of the Live Aids and USA for Africa bullshit, Willie's still standing with his Farm Aid concerts. It seems that Willie believes that a good cause if worth fighting for forever, not just one year when Phil Collins' schedule permits him to play three continents in one day. |
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>Your assumption is wrong. You believe to know my politics when you do not.
I made NO statements about your politics. Given the tone - "I don't care about people dying, I've got skiing to do" - I would guess you're a Republican.
>I prefer to keep my music and politics separate. I am diappointed in Willie. I think music has more direct emotional levels to appeal to in uniting people than using direct political discourse in a musical forum.
Music has ALWAYS been a vehicle for social and political discourse, among other things. "Masters of War" was a great song in 1962, and it's still great, and could certainly be about Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld et al.
Other songs - I'll stay with Dylan and mention "George Jackson" or "Hurricane" or "The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll" - are used to present a viewpoint about a specific incident that otherwise might not be heard, to an audience who otherwise might not hear it.
Sometimes the drums are just for dancing. Sometimes they mean that the natives are restless. Willie is fulfilling his role in the tribe, using music in a way that is as old as mud (i.e almost as old as Willie hisself!)
>(I prefer the Taj Mahal approach).
Ever hear Taj cover Leadbelly's "Bourgeoisie Blues? It's pretty good.
>Likewise, I understand I'm not going to change anyone's politics in a Rolling Stones fan site and choose to expatiate those ideas in a different forum.
Well, actually I wasn't going to say a damn thing about Willie's song until you felt the need to weigh in with your thoughts. See, I'm always aware that this is an international forum, and I'm always afraid that people will think ALL Americans are....um....Republicans.
>What was it you "did" to me? I'm not sure I noticed.
glencar said: I know you don't agree with me but to assign me or other conservatives to a "bewildered herd" smacks of emotional fascism.
I assigned you to the Bewildered Herd, but that was wrong. They're people who have been lied to and don't know it. You're someone who's been lied to but doesn't care.
Actually I'm the most bewildered. I'm constantly amazed that statements like those made by Willie in this song can be argued against by anyone with a conscience. |
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>First off, 35 countries supported us in the war against Iraq.
Oh, come ON. Tell me - do Trinidad & Tobago count as one or two of our mighty allies?
>I myself wasn't a supporter until Colin Powell amde his speech at the UN. I figured if he's on board, it's worth doing.
Colin Powell always looks like he rues the day he accepted his post, and is embarrassed to say what he's been ordered to say. I do agree that he seems to be the only man with an actual soul in the Bush administration, but he's odd man out. And I don't admire him enough to swallow a load of shit just because he squeezed it out.
>As a moderate conservative, Bush is the only one I support at this time.
Bush is the most radical President we've ever had, and he had NO mandate from America to do the things he's done. When a presidential election comes down to a couple hundred votes it is a mandate to actually BE moderate and conservative. Or is this label Orwellian doublespeak? War is Peace?
>I live in fear of what the Dims will do if they take back the WH.
What could they possibly do that would be WORSE than what Bush has done? I live in fear, PERIOD, because that's how Bush wants it.
>I don't support the POTUS on several issues(the environment, the DP) but what's the alternative? Dean is the only one of that crowd who's shown consistency & he's a bit raw for my taste.
I had to stop and think what POTUS meant. It's hard because I never think of that little twit as The President. Along with a majority of Americans, I didn't vote for him.
I'm not too thrilled by the Democrats - and why are you interested in consistency, when you seem to feel that being "all over the map" makes YOU a deeper political thinker? I know that Al Sharpton is the only Democratic candidate that Bush could beat in a battle of wits. I'd love to hear John Kerry or General Clark discuss the military with our cowardly, draft-dodging Commander in Thief. Those men are actual HEROES, not dweebs who dress up like soldiers.
But not being thrilled by the alternative is no excuse for staying with the wrong side.
>Emotional Fascism was the original title for AF? LOL I knew it somewhere in the recesses of my mind. I'm sorry that you inferred that I thought you hadn't changed your opinions over the years.
I actually haven't, because these really aren't POLITICAL issues, they are issues of basic humanity. Fuck politics.
>It was an open question. As for Limbaugh, I rarely listen to him. But he has lead a sea change in this country & you should give him a listen once in a while if only for the "listening to the enemy" part.
Well, obviously, NO ONE could live in America and NOT be aware of that asshole. I don't listen to him much for the same reason I always turn Jerry Springer off.
>Even though I'm not in the WH, I can form theories about our actions across the globe. I think President Bush came into office unsteadily internationally & I think he's found his way.
WHAT? FOUND HIS WAY? Oh, Christ...never mind. No use arguing this one. Bush is the worst president we have ever had.
>Libya has seen the light & I expect others to follow shortly.
You don't see the hilarious irony of the Libya situation? They were the bad guys for years, and now since they are making the tiniest concessions to our half-baked demands about how WE think everyone else should act, we have to be friendly with them? Can't anyone see how much that looks like our support of Saddam because he was fighting the Iranians? The enemy of our enemies is NOT always our friend.
I'd wait and see how it turns out before you crow TOO much about our good friend Col. Kaddafy. You might think he's patting Bush on the back, but he's really taping a "kick me" sign to it.
>As for health insurance & socialism, was that in my post? I didn't see it in my original post.
No, it was one of several posts that disappeared from this thread. Not sure who said it. The gist was that we're in trouble because we're too "red". It was just too absurd to respond to, and evidently the poster thought so too. |
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| Joey |
Fleabit ...........................................
I would like to clutch you to my bosom and gently and sweetly stroke your young , sweaty , moist , shiny , glistening , GLISTENING little fleabit forehead and just say , " THANKS !!! , Man ! " , for being so damn smart .
You are much loved by this " Caked One "
My Gift to you today :
http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/0200378BDE2DC4FA?brand=&artistid=734828&majorcatid=10001&minorcatid=1
Jacky Cake ! |
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| glencar |
Consistency in a campaign is a bit different from changing one's viewpoint over the course of adulthood. Hell, Kerry can't keep his consistency over the course of a weekend. The only one of that crowd I can vote for is Lieberman & he's not going to be the party's choice.
No, the President didn't win a majority but he gained a mandate which was further strengthened by the '02 elections. BTW Clinton never gained a majority either (50% + 1). I believe Bush outpolled him in total votes. As for him being "the worst President we've ever had" that's a bit early to rate him. As much as I disliked Clinton, it's too early to rate him amongst all the others. History isn't written overnight. You're never going to like any Republican President & I'll probably never like any Dem one at this point. But throwing the word "Halliburton" isn't going to win any debates.
As for Bush being a radical, that's just garbage. He's mostly governed from the center as far as the budget goes. He's passed Medicare drugs, that No Child Left Behind Bill w/Teddy K & a host of other expansionist programs. He's even created a whole new cabinet department. I'd be interested in why you think he's so radically conservative. The Patriot Act? The one passed with large support by the Dems? Hmmm, nope. |
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FPM: 1.You quoted something you "think" I believe as if I actually said it. That's often called libel. 2.There is no skiing in Tehachapi...just happened to snow at my in-laws X-mas night. Someone enjoying a family get-together doesn't equate to not caring about people dying. You've used a lot of name calling and accusations to argue a very passionate point-of-view opposing my expression of disappointment in a musician. I don't mind the debate but I think it would be more suitable to a more appropriate board or PM. Invitation is open.
"What'cha gonna do about it?
What'cha gonna do?
Gonna fight it.
Gonna fight it"
FYI: Taj is about to embark on his Caribbean Cruise at about $2000 a pop. I don't think it will very bourgeoisie; but it's a great song and believe it or not I owned Hurricane in the 3rd grade - still have the 45.
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Willie wrote it so he can nail the Dixie Chicks! |
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| glencar |
You must be a Republican! |
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Haliburton?
LOL!!
No one ever seems to want to dig into an issue and see for themselves what the truth is. Call it "The Howard Dean Bewildered Herb Mentality". They must be smoking it too much. (Yes it CAN happen).
Some clarification needs to be made regarding that evil company Haliburton.
LOGCAP is the Logistics Civil Augmentation Program created by the United States Army. It is a program that uses a competitive bidding process to award a contract to a corporation to be on call to provide whatever services the Army might need. It's like outsourcing. These contracts are awarded ahead of time so that the Army is not bogged down during a war or emergency when they have more important things to do than start a bidding process. Haliburton won. Before Gulf War II. In fact, they won the LOGCAP contract in 1992 while the Clinton administration was in power. In fact, they lost it in 1997 but Clinton STILL WENT WITH HALIBURTON, with no contract, to do vital work in the Balkan's. Not only with no LOGCAP contract but with no bidding! Oh my God! There was no left wing hissy fit or conspiracy theories. Haliburton gets these contracts with good reason. They are extremely experienced in things that other companies are not. They put out 350 oil well fires out after Gulf War I for instance. They provide food and logistics to major natural disasters too. The fact Cheney ran the company is a non-issue. He makes no money from Haliburton anymore and in fact gave up millions of dollars in pension money to run for vice president. Al Gore threw a few things Haliburton's way during his re-inventing government kick back in the 90's too. Sans Buddhist Monks! Also, the contract Haliburton had under the Clinton administration called for a 1 to 9 percent profit margin, the one they currently have calls for a 1 to 3 percent profit margin. They made more under Clinton. The left has a problem with big successful companies. Capitalism angers them for some reason. The thing is, it doesn't anger them enough to make a fuss when a dem is in the White House.
Also, Bush did not say "So?" when word came out that Haliburton overcharged for gas.
Quote from the NY Times: Bush says "And if there's an overcharge, like we think there is, we expect that money to be repaid."
Far from price gouging, Haliburton themselves over paid for gas. They made a mistake. It happens with large companies sometimes, believe it or not.
As far as Willie Nelson's new song goes, looking at the lyrics, it seems he is more pissed off at being lied to about the reasons for going to war than anything else. Understandable for sure. But will he write a different song if it is shown that Saddam and Al Qaeda has a blossoming relationship (which is happening) or if WMD are found? I still love Willie as a great artist and would not hesitate to buy his music.
Disagreements are part of life. I disagree with many things my C10 brothers say but they are still my brothers. We have more in common than not.
Even Joey, who I have a present for if he emails me.
Macky!
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" Disagreements are part of life. I disagree with many things my C10 brothers say but they are still my brothers. We have more in common than not.
Even Joey, who I have a present for if he emails me.
Macky! "
E - Mailing away now !
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| glencar |
There was a big deal made on certain websites last night. Apparently Hilly Clinton tried her hand at humor & told some joke about Mahatma Gandhi working at a gas station down the street. Now I have zero use for that woman & the joke was lame but some on the right are trying to hoist her on her own petard. Why? Politics in this country has degenerated to a silly level. I don't think it's as vicious as some claim & open debate is always a good thing but this latest escapade is more drivel. And Halliburton is the Lefties' version of it.
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| Joey |
" but some on the right are trying to hoist her on her own petard "
That sounds EXACTLY like what Lamby does to me every time she " Uncakes " .
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| Joey |
Oh , yeah !
Congratulations Blue on 3500 Posts !!!!!!
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| glencar |
Thanks Joey! I answered you "elsewhere" & it's nice to see you are closing in on six grand total! |
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| Joey |
" Thanks Joey! I answered you "elsewhere" & it's nice to see you are closing in on six grand total! "
Yes , thanks !
6K is quite an achievement .......JB holds the record though . Damn that guy is good , huh ?!?!?!
Cakey !
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Thanks Joey! I answered you "elsewhere" & it's nice to see you are closing in on six grand total!
Yeah,...but quality counts. |
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