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21st December 2007 09:28 PM
andrews27 Jigsaw Puzzle is the weakest song there, because so derivative of Dylan. The Beatles never stooped to outright imitation of his surreal images, or if they did, they made them their own, as in "Lucy." The saving grace of Jigsaw is the way the lyrics look forward to the description of a damaged band in "Torn and Frayed." The guitars and trailing fadeout give "Jigsaw" enough panache to survive, though it sounds better suited to the period and style of Between the Buttons.

I agree that JJF sounds more like a Beggars track - but where are you going to put it? It doesn't plug neatly into the end track, side 1 slot. Child of the Moon, to me, sounds more like Satanic Majesties, and would have improved that record.
21st December 2007 09:42 PM
glencar
quote:
voodoopug wrote:


get your rest my friend, it will be a long 4 day weekend for many of us! Happy holidays.

My weekend's over, mate. Now I need to get back to work for the American people.
21st December 2007 11:39 PM
Sioux
quote:
andrews27 wrote:
Jigsaw Puzzle is the weakest song there, because so derivative of Dylan. The Beatles never stooped to outright imitation of his surreal images, or if they did, they made them their own, as in "Lucy." The saving grace of Jigsaw is the way the lyrics look forward to the description of a damaged band in "Torn and Frayed." The guitars and trailing fadeout give "Jigsaw" enough panache to survive, though it sounds better suited to the period and style of Between the Buttons.

I agree that JJF sounds more like a Beggars track - but where are you going to put it? It doesn't plug neatly into the end track, side 1 slot. Child of the Moon, to me, sounds more like Satanic Majesties, and would have improved that record.



Interesting observations. I agree with your last paragraph, although I love Satanic Majesties just as it
is as well...
[Edited by Sioux]
22nd December 2007 11:01 AM
andrews27 They could have made a stronger Satanic Majesties by cutting some stuff that was too-Beatles derived and instead putting in stuff like We Love You and Child of the Moon, but there was that pre-FM radio prejudice against re-issuing singles as album tracks. They ended up obsessively yet weakly overworking a style that was essentially Over Their Heads, which might as well be the album title. Even as a kid, one could tell that a dead horse was being beaten within those grooves. It was one of those transitional albums a group makes when it finds itself fagged out just as times are changing - if the same moments coincided ten years later, we might have gotten a truly atrocious disco album.

Yes, there things on Satanic Majesties I love dearly, including the fairly awful The Lantern. But it's Sgt. Pepper done in the mindset and techniques of Something Happened to me Yesterday, which makes it doubly stale on delivery. The real dimension was in the 3-D cover, which was a dead giveaway of the lack therein. That was the part the kiddies liked, and they found the fulfillment of that witchy desire just around the corner in Led Zeppelin I.
22nd December 2007 11:49 AM
Sioux Well, Brian was the one who so strongly objected to putting
out Satanic Majesties. And record sales, at the time, were
pretty bad, so he was proven right. I still enjoy the album, as I enjoy anything that Brian had a part of. And I
have friends who state that SM is their favorite Stones
album. Go figure, eh? lol
22nd December 2007 12:49 PM
voodoopug
quote:
glencar wrote:
My weekend's over, mate. Now I need to get back to work for the American people.



I thought my weekend was ready to begin too....but yet I find myself in the office again today.....I guess we are both successful because we are willing to put in the necessary hours to serve the American Public (or in my case American Laboratories/Classrooms).

Happy Holidays Blue.
23rd December 2007 03:32 PM
glencar Merry Christmas, Voodoopuggy!

23rd December 2007 06:10 PM
Egbert To these ears Satanic Majesties cops way more from Piper At The Gates than Sgt. Pepper - you have songs (In Another Land, Lantern, Gomper) that sound much like Syd's whimsical little ditties; STAT(SWH) is a rather poor attempt at replicating an Interstellar Overdrive-type jam; 2000 Light Years apes the space-rock themes of Astronomy Domine and IO; the 3-D cover is similar as well....

23rd December 2007 11:30 PM
voodoopug
quote:
glencar wrote:
Merry Christmas, Voodoopuggy!







YES!!! Merry Christmas to you too.
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