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jb wrote:
Where's Osama???You know, that tall guy with bad kidneys?

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telecaster wrote:


Sure. You mean like this one from two years ago when 75% were dead or captured. Now it is well over 80%

http://www.borrull.org/e/noticia.php?id=40842

Thanks for playing

We have a clock radio as a consolation prize for you on your way out

Now why don't any of you Clinton apologists show us a list of Al Q killed or captured while Clinton was President

We will wait

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monkey_man wrote:


Hmmm and they haven't grown since then. . .interesting. Keep up the bumper sticker talking points they never fail to entertain!

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pdog wrote:


I don't like him in Our White house... That's all I've said... He's scum. He harbors terrorists and refuses to let us persue them. Do you agree with him on that?

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glencar wrote:
Joshy, I think your prediction of 500 by 5 will be spot on!

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rasputin56 wrote:


Damn, I keep looking throught that wonderful list and I can't find any dated from 1/01 through 9/01? Did I miss them? 75%? Is there a list that AQ folks need to sign up on so they can accurately come with that number? Wait wasn't it 80%? Cole? Anyone?

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jb wrote:
I must leave for dinner...I wish you all a good evening and harbor no ill feelings(that's a lie).

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monkey_man wrote:

Hey it's only 1:30 here!

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Nice weak attempt at chaning the goal posts/topic

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pdog wrote:
Zarquawi didn't make that list Tele! Is it safe to say a two year old list, might need updating as far as growth and decline among Al Queada..
Just putting it out there...

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Fiji Joe wrote:


Uhh...no...but you do realize he's governing a tinderbox?...I think he is one of the more intrigung figures of our time and deserves the world's support in his efforts to modernize that nation...as I said, when he is killed, you will see his value

I do not think he is the scrupulous character you do...I think he is doing about all he can without setting off a major islamic revolt in Pakistan...one that would lead to islamafacists being in control of their nuclear weapons and a major conflcit with India

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Al Q killed or captured under Bush. Now one of you Clinton lovers show a list of those Al Q killed or captured under Clinton.

"How much of al Qaeda's leadership has been captured or killed?

Terrorism: Questions & Answers (http://cfrterrorism.org/home/)

Most terror experts agree with official claims that counterterrorism efforts have substantially depleted al Qaeda's senior ranks.

According to the White House, "of the senior al Qaeda and associated leaders, operational managers, and key facilitators the United States has been tracking, more than two-thirds have been detained, captured, or killed." In each of the three presidential debates, President George W. Bush said that 75 percent of Qaeda leaders were dead or in custody.

Experts point out, however, that it is impossible to identify all of the top-ranking members of the shadowy network. Nor is it known how quickly Qaeda operatives who have been captured or killed are replaced. Following is a list of 29 operatives identified by experts and by the U.S. government as key Qaeda members. Sixteen are in custody, four are believed dead, and nine remain at large.

Captured

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. A Kuwaiti who is the alleged mastermind of the 9/11 attacks. He is also believed to have personally executed Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl in January 2002. Captured in Pakistan in March 2003.

Abu Zubaida. A Palestinian born in Saudi Arabia, thought to have served as Osama bin Laden's field commander following the death of Mohammed Atef. Captured in Pakistan in March 2002.

Ramzi Binalshibh. A Yemeni national and an alleged coordinator of the September 11 attacks, accused of involvement in attacks on the USS Cole in October 2000 and on a Tunisian synagogue in April 2002.
Captured in Pakistan in September 2002.

Mohammed Haydar Zammar. A Syrian-born German national accused of recruiting several of the 9/11 hijackers. Arrested in Morocco soon after the September 11 attacks.

Ali Abdul Rahman al-Ghamdi. A Saudi described as al Qaeda's top leader in Saudi Arabia and suspected of masterminding a series of bombings in Riyadh in 2003. Surrendered to Saudi authorities in June 2003.

Mohamedou Ould Slahi. A Mauritanian alleged to have played a key role in the recruitment of some of the 9/11 hijackers. Captured by Mauritanian authorities and turned over to the United States in November 2002 on suspicion he plotted to bomb Los Angeles International Airport during the 2000 millennium celebrations.

Omar al-Faruq. A Kuwaiti and an alleged link between al Qaeda and other militant Islamic groups in Southeast Asia. He was arrested in Indonesia in June 2002.

Mohsen F. A Kuwaiti whose full identity is unknown, plotted unsuccesfully to blow up a hotel in the Yemeni capital, Sanaa. Arrested in Kuwait in November 2002.

Hambali, aka Riduan Issamuddin. An Indonesian, reportedly a top strategist for Qaeda-linked Jemaah Islamiya in Southeast Asia. Captured in Thailand in August 2003.

Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri. A Saudi thought to be al Qaeda's chief of operations in the Persian Gulf. Captured in the United Arab Emirates in November 2002.

Ahmed Khalfan Ghailani. A Tanzanian suspected in the 1998 bombings of the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. Captured in Pakistan in July 2004.

Abu Issa al-Hindi. A British national born in India, allegedly a central planner of detailed reconnaissance of U.S. financial institutions. Captured in Britain in August 2004.

Zacarias Moussaoui. A French citizen of Moroccan origin, thought by U.S. officials to be the "20th 9/11 hijacker." Reportedly prevented from participating in the September 11 attacks because he was in custody in Minnesota on an immigration violation.

Mounir al-Motassadek. A Moroccan arrested in Hamburg in November 2001, the only person to have been convicted of a crime connected to the 9/11 attacks. In 2004, Germany's Supreme Court threw out the verdict. Currently being retried.

Richard Reid. British-born, sentenced to life in prison in January 2003 for trying to blow up an airliner with explosives hidden in his shoes.

Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri. A Saudi believed to have been head of Qaeda operations in the Persian Gulf and linked to the August 1998 U.S. embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania. Sentenced to death by a Yemeni court in September 2004 for the bomb attack on the USS Cole, which killed 17 U.S. sailors in October 2000. Currently in U.S. custody.

Believed dead

Amjad Farooqi. A Pakistani, allegedly helped organize two failed assassination attempts on Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf and participated in the abduction and murder of Daniel Pearl. Reportedly killed by Pakistani security forces in September 2004.

Mohammed Atef. An Egyptian believed to have been al Qaeda's senior field commander. According to the Pentagon, he was killed in Afghanistan in November 2001.

Ali Qaed Senyan al-Harthi. A Yemeni suspected of involvement in the bombing of the USS Cole. Believed to have been killed in a U.S. counterterrorist operation in Yemen in November 2002.

Abu Hazim al-Shair. A Yemeni and former bin Laden bodyguard thought to have been al Qaeda's chief of operations for the Gulf States and a key planner of the May 2003 bombings of Western residential compounds in Saudi Arabia. Reportedly killed in Riyadh by Saudi security forces in March 2004.

At large

Osama bin Laden.

Ayman al-Zawahri. An Egyptian believed to be bin Laden's spiritual adviser and doctor. Some experts consider him the architect of the Qaeda ideology.

Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. A Jordanian accused of spearheading the insurgency against U.S. forces in Iraq. Experts disagree whether he is a Qaeda operative or has merely associated himself with bin Laden.

Sheikh Said. A Saudi, bin Laden's brother-in-law, and al Qaeda's financial controller.

Saif al-Adel. An Egyptian who is bin Laden's security chief.

Abu Mohammed al-Masri. An Egyptian who ran Qaeda training camps in Afghanistan.

Sulaiman Abu Ghaith. A Kuwaiti and Qaeda spokesman.

Thirwat Salah Shirhata. An Egyptian and al-Zawahri's deputy in Egyptian Islamic Jihad, an Egyptian network founded in the late 1970s that effectively merged with al Qaeda in 2001.

Abu Faraj al Libbi. A Libyan said to have become third in command of al Qaeda when Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was captured in 2003. Allegedly the mastermind of two failed attempts to assassinate Pakistani President Musharraf.

Fecha:2004-10-23

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monkey_man wrote:

Asking you to defend your talking points is changing the goal posts?? I think asking me to defend a talking point I didn't make about Clinton is changing the topic.

How are this weeks football picks coming?

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telecaster wrote:
But the Clinton lovers hate Bush more than the terrorist so they will find a way
around the results

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glencar wrote:
BTW To those who say Clintoon won teh exchange, I think their partisan glasses are clouding their vision. He didn't lose per se but it wasn't a win either.

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