| August 23rd, 2005 06:05 AM |
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| egon |
I think the've toured in the states long enough now.
time to come over to europe! |
| August 23rd, 2005 07:49 AM |
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| corgi37 |
Gazza, that is one fucking bizarre review!
My apologies. Mostly full page review on page 27 of Melbournes Herald Sun. It's just a review from the wires, and has been posted here. Spewing i missed the news. It was all over tv. Got to watch the late night news in the next 40 minutes.
Again i ask. Describe to me the reaction Charlie got. |
| August 23rd, 2005 09:34 AM |
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| Jerry in Boston |
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corgi37 wrote:
Again i ask. Describe to me the reaction Charlie got.
Typical reaction - loud ovation and a bit longer than the rest mostly because they pause in front of the drums so everyone cheers a bit longer. The usual Charlie reaction if you ask me. Most shows I've been to have had Charlie get the longest response but on opening night there were no cherubs descending from parted clouds, if that's what you're wondering.  |
| August 23rd, 2005 09:44 AM |
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| corgi37 |
Yeah, thats what i was wondering. Thought everyone would go nuts, as they do, but more so after his cancer scare. |
| August 23rd, 2005 10:00 AM |
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| Lazy Bones |
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I think the've toured in the states long enough now.
time to come over to europe!
Sorry, Egon, they're heading North first! I like they way you think, though - I, too, drink from a green bottle...
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| August 23rd, 2005 11:06 AM |
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| corgi37 |
Just saw footage on our late news. Looks very impressive. Newsreader said no word on Oz tour. I am starting to get alarmed. |
| August 23rd, 2005 11:21 AM |
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| Martha |
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Sir Stonesalot wrote:
I may be in the minority here, but.....
If I went to see the Stones and DIDN'T get to here those warhorses, I'd feel cheated. For real.
I LOVE THOSE SONGS! Why wouldn't I want to hear them?
I've been to 11 Stones shows...soon to be lucky 13...and I've seen all those songs played ad nauseum. And I loved 'em each and every time. Holy FUCK people...those are some of the GREATEST rock and roll songs ever written! Why WOULDN'T they play them?
How can it be a bad thing to hear JJF or Statisfaction, two of the greatest rock and roll songs ever written, played by the greatest rock n roll band ever to plug in their amps? I mean, c'mon. Those warhorses are what MADE the Rolling Stones. Fuck yeah they oughta play those songs.
I bought my tickets knowing full well that there would be no suprises, that I'd be hearing things that I've already heard multiple times. I love those songs, so I bought tickets. How many tours do the Stones need to do before you realize that ALL Stones tours are "warhorse" tours? If you haven't realized by now that you are gonna get 12-15 "warhorses" in every setlist, then you are fucking thick headed. Did you seriously expect anything else...c'mon back to reality son.
Don't want to see that kind of setlist? Don't buy the tickets. Or start your own Rolling Stones band and play whatever you want to play to a bar full of people. Snuggle up with you bootlegs and create your own dream show. Whatever.
I will, however, join in with a bitch about ticket prices. Even as much as I love the Stones, I will not pay more than $150.00 a ticket for ANYONE.
YOU my dear Sir are the voice of reason and sanity. Thank you.
I was wondering what everyone would be saying IF (yes I know I am dreaming here) the ticket price for all seats at all the shows were $49.50 (before the ass-rape fees are applied by TXbastardo). HOWE would be be talking?
I wonder.......
Not developing..................
kisses and hugs,
Martha |
| August 23rd, 2005 11:32 AM |
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| Gazza |
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Martha wrote:
I was wondering what everyone would be saying IF (yes I know I am dreaming here) the ticket price for all seats at all the shows were $49.50 (before the ass-rape fees are applied by TXbastardo). HOWE would be be talking?
personally - I dont think it would make any difference, Martha
People who go to a lot of shows like to see a bit of variety. The Stones woke up to that fact from about 1989 onwards. I'm sure when you went to several Dylan shows this year you were thrilled at how many unusual song choices he pulled out of the hat.
And a 'hardcore' audience would go nuts at pretty much anything that they played that wasnt an obvious hit anyway. Surely thats better for the band to give them the freedom to play what they want, rather than feel 'obliged' to play all their best known hits for a sizeable chunk of the audience who cant be bothered to familiarise themselves with anything that isnt on 40 Licks.
By all means, cater for all types of fans and in a stadium show, its natural to play a lot of your biggest hits. But a healthy balance between new material, greatest hits and (as someone called it) 'deeper album cuts' is nice. The Fenway setlist delivered the first two, but a lot of folks think it was severely lacking in the third.
thats not taking away in any manner how enjoyable the show seems to have been for those who were at it, though.
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| August 23rd, 2005 01:38 PM |
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| Honky Tonk Man |
I really don't understand why people are moaning about the set list. I thought it was great! They played four new songs, Shattered, She's So Cold, Out Of Control and all the usual classics. I personally, couldn't ask for more.
I'm sure the arena shows may be a little more varied in what we get to hear, but I think Sundays show was a nice mix.
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| August 23rd, 2005 02:06 PM |
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| gimmekeef |
Sounds overall like the boys played very well indeed considering it was opening night and a stadium to boot...(did I say boot..hmmmm...when???!!!)....As far as warhorses I'm only concerned because Gimmeshelter is my all time fave and it wasnt played...But theres lots of time for the set to evolve.... |
| August 23rd, 2005 02:07 PM |
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| VoodooChileInWOnderl |
Four new songs and a cover of Ray Charles so technically there were FIVE new / unknown songs |
| August 23rd, 2005 03:31 PM |
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Honky Tonk Man wrote:
I really don't understand why people are moaning about the set list. I thought it was great! They played four new songs, Shattered, She's So Cold, Out Of Control and all the usual classics. I personally, couldn't ask for more.
I'm sure the arena shows may be a little more varied in what we get to hear, but I think Sundays show was a nice mix.
Actually, if compare the set to the first stadium show for Licks which was also held in Boston, 13 songs were exactly the same. If you throw in the four new songs (the Stones are touring behind a new album), there wasn't a hell a lot of change. Licks was a tour supporting a greatest hits album so one would logically expect a lot of their greatest hits to be played. The Stones now have, what appears to be from most sources, an interesting new album.
One would think, instead of playing basically the same set as a Licks Tour, that the STONES themselves would be interested in playing a different setlist to keep things more interesting. Going into deeper album cuts in addition to the new songs from the new album.
No one is denying that they shouldn't be playing the warhorses. The constructive criticism is that instead of playing 11 warhorses a night, as they did opening night, they cut it down to 7 or 8 and allow more imagination into the setlist.
Saying all of this, if you compare the setlist to the actual performance, to me the actual performance itself is much more important. What's does a great setlist mean if the actual performance is sub standard???
The STONES have played a grand total of one show so far (opening night). They played it safe. I fully expect, as time goes on and the tour winds along, the STONES to play a more adventureous setlist.
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| August 23rd, 2005 08:18 PM |
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| corgi37 |
yes, yes, yes, but as Jagger has said. Its ok to do a few of the new album that 99.9% of people havent heard, to ease them in, so to speak, and do more once the album is out. I think well worn chestnuts like YGMR & IORR might get the flick once the newer songs have been established. |
| August 23rd, 2005 08:48 PM |
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| exile |
was there a space theme with the graphics?
like a big bang theme to the show? |
| August 23rd, 2005 09:37 PM |
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| linusnc |
I think that the setlist was awesome can't wait to hear a boot of it. This is my first post here Hi everyone |
| August 24th, 2005 05:08 AM |
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| Gazza |
hopefully one will be available on the torrent tracker soon
Good to see you here |
| August 24th, 2005 05:18 AM |
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| beer |
3 words for this tour:
Torrent
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| August 24th, 2005 06:40 AM |
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| egon |
Uit he AD online:
23-08-2005
Mick Jagger dartelt als veulen over podium
Geen sleet op de Rolling Stones
Door Robert Haagsma
Zondag was in het Fenway Park-stadion in Boston de aftrap van de nieuwe wereldtournee van de Rolling Stones.
Keith Richards, Mick Jagger en Charlie Watts in Boston tijdens het eerste concert van de 'A Bigger Bang'-wereldtoernee.
Voor 35.000 enthousiaste fans liet de band zich vooral van zijn ruige kant zien.
Bij een concert van Rolling Stones is het altijd zoeken naar dat ene moment van pure magie. Tijdens de eerste avond van de nieuwe wereldtournee viel dat precies halverwege het optreden.
Mick Jagger - jeans, zilverkleurig colbertje - ging een vocaal duel aan met een van de achtergrondzangeressen in 'The Night Time', oorspronkelijk van Ray Charles. Terwijl diens karakteristieke hoofd op het videoscherm verscheen, verloor Jagger zich in een gospelachtig vraag- en antwoordspel. Pure soul! Alleen dat moment bewees al dat het muzikale hart van de Britse band nog altijd klopt en bovendien op de juiste plaats zit.
Het concert in Boston was de eerste van een kleine 40 concerten in Amerika. Volgend jaar zomer is Europa, en dus ook Nederland, aan de beurt. De Stones hadden voor de aftrap van deze wereldtournee geen betere locatie kunnen kiezen. Fenway Park is een vooroorlogs honkbalstadion in het hart van Boston, met oude, verweerde muren die vele jaren sportplezier uitademen.
De Rolling Stones schotelden de dankbare fans een solide rockshow voor. Veel van het werk werd verzet door de band zelf, net als op de nieuwe cd 'A Bigger Bang', die op 6 september in Nederland verschijnt. Het concert begon met de ideale opener 'Start Me Up'.
'Shattered' was de eerste prettige verrassing, die nog overtroffen werd door 'She's So Cold'. Volgens Mick Jagger was dit de eerste keer dat het nummer live werd gespeeld. Het bleef daar niet bij. De zanger speelde verdienstelijk (!) slidegitaar in 'Back Of My Hand', een van de nieuwe songs.
Het podium oogde indrukwekkend: erboven prijkte een immens videoscherm, dat werd geflankeerd door immense, zilverkleurige gallerijen, als een high-tech Bijlmerflat van waaruit de kopers van de duurste kaartjes het concert mochten volgen. Die elite had daar overigens vooral uitzicht op de nog altijd tengere billen van Mick Jagger en zijn collega's.
Onder de speciale gasten bevond zich de uit Oostenrijk stammende, voormalige acteur en huidige gouverneur van Californië: Arnold Schwarzennegger. Hij was er met een gezelschap dat per persoon 100.000 dollar in zijn herverkiezingskas had gestort.
Zijn aanwezigheid leidde voor het begin van het optreden tot een protestmars rond het stadion. Boze burgers deelden plakkaten uit met 'No Sympathy For Arnold', vrij naar 'Sympathy For The Devil'. Helaas speelden de Rolling Stones niet 'Sweet Neo Con', een sneer aan het adres van nieuw-rechts, waarin 'Der Arnold' wel iets van zichzelf had kunnen herkennen. Mick Jagger hield het bij een grap: hij had de gouverneur buiten ontdekt, terwijl deze T-shirts aan het verhandelen was.
En dus zag ook Schwarzenegger hoe in de tweede helft van de show een deel van het podium met de hele band erop naar het midden van de arena schoof. In een intimiteit die deed denken aan een kleine rockclub speelde het stel 'Miss You', het gloednieuwe 'Oh No, Not You Again' en 'Satisfaction'. Tijdens 'Honky Tonk Women' verscheen een gigantische mond, waaruit een wellustige tong - het logo van de band - rolde. 'You Can't Always Get What You Want' en 'It's Only Rock en Roll' waren de toegiften, waarna een kort maar hevig vuurwerk het einde van het concert markeerde.
Het was een overtuigende show. Mick Jagger, 62 alweer, huppelde als een dartel veulen over het podium en was opvallend goed bij stem. Hoewel de Rolling Stones nooit een wonder van technische perfectie zullen worden - liever niet! - klonk de band hechter dan twee jaar terug. Destijds leek vooral gitarist Ron Wood regelmatig overvallen te worden door blackouts, maar hij bleef in Boston goed bij de les.
Er zullen ongetwijfeld nog veel woorden vuilgemaakt worden over de leeftijd van de veteranen: Woody is met zijn 58 jaar de benjamin van de band. Net als over de ticketprijzen, in Amerika vanaf een slordige 170 dollar.
Ook de keuze van de songs zal weer de nodige discussies opleveren. Het begin van deze tournee liet vooral horen dat de liefde van de Rolling Stones voor de rock 'n' roll nog altijd springlevend is. En dat wanneer die wordt geconsumeerd, de Stones zich nog altijd de grootste rockband ter wereld mogen noemen.
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| August 24th, 2005 06:57 AM |
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| beer |
Egon my friend,
I just tried to go to Heinekin's official French site, and i almost got my ears blown out with some awful music. tell 'em to fix this problem. thanks!
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| August 24th, 2005 07:01 AM |
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| egon |
beer.
always & only use the dutch website.
like the heineken itself, it's better to have the one made in the Netherlands.
I shall now check out the french website and thereafter place some calls.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Some people woul
let this slide, but you obvisouly live up to your username.
Good work! |
| August 24th, 2005 07:05 AM |
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| beer |
Haha!
Egon, you rule!
Are you coming to the U.S this tour?
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| August 24th, 2005 07:16 AM |
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| egon |
well.......................,
I would like to. but if i'm coming it would have to be a last minute thing.
for the moment i'm not sure about anything
due to work (damn, always that one!) & if i'll still
have holidays left.
i'm 1st going on a holiday to australia in november,
and definitely can't go to the states before that.
a concert in NY would be nice cos
that town is still on my 'to do' list,
and of course because of the gathering there.
also could get afairly cheap flight.
but then again, it will apparantly be impossible to get last minute tickets..
too many ifs, buts & maybe's, but who knows;
a miracle might happen once the time comes
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| August 24th, 2005 07:23 AM |
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| beer |
You only live once sweet neo egon.
go to a west coast show, i'm in the process of figuring out whats realistic and what's not, granted a little late. My credit cards gonna hate me, Ronnie!!
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| August 24th, 2005 07:26 AM |
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| egon |
west coast would be great, as i have family there (san diego), but it's too expensive.
I can't do 2 big trips within 2 months;
They don't give those plane tickets to australia away for free you know.
must be a fucking magical country... it better be anyway!
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| August 24th, 2005 07:27 AM |
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beer wrote:
sweet neo egon.
I like this one!
(stricky on a non erotic basis of course. beer anyone?) |
| August 24th, 2005 07:42 AM |
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| beer |
Of course Egon, be sure to find StonedinAustralia, he's the coolest! Are you going to Melb or Sydney?
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| August 24th, 2005 07:45 AM |
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| Gazza |
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egon wrote:
a concert in NY would be nice cos
that town is still on my 'to do' list,
and of course because of the gathering there.
also could get afairly cheap flight.
but then again, it will apparantly be impossible to get last minute tickets..
if youre looking for a single, I would imagine one will come up somehow.
But the flight prices in january are good. I got one yesterday for about 294 Euro. Makes it worth the chance |
| August 24th, 2005 07:50 AM |
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| egon |
i know gazza, i looked at prices yesterday :-)
maybe i SHOULD take the chance.
i shall decide end november on this |
| August 24th, 2005 09:03 AM |
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| beer |
egon,you bastard. what's your email?
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| August 24th, 2005 10:01 AM |
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| egon |
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beer wrote:
the coolest! Are you going to Melb or Sydney?
both cities as have friends there.
and furthermore (according to the girlfriend) we'll be
visiting a/the coral reef on the eastcoast
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beer wrote:
egon,you bastard. what's your email?
see under my profile |
