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| Gazza |
from today's Daily Mail:
Rolling Stone Ronnie Wood is back in the Priory hospital after being warned he could die if he does not stop drinking.
The 57-year-old guitarist, who turned to alcohol after kicking his cocaine addiction, checked himself into the famous rehabilitation clinic earlier this week.
He was visited by Mick Jagger, who had helped convince him to seek help. It is Wood's second stay at the £5,000-a-week centre in Roehampton, South London.
Wood, who has also been told to quit smoking otherwise he will get emphysema, said "Every day is a challenge. It's fighting "the monster", I call it".
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| Martha |
Shit. But knowing a lot about the disease I am not surprised he's relapsed. Many, many people relapse.
I'm glad he is checked into the hospital. Thanks for posting this Gary.
My prayers are with him and his family.
Get well Woody, we love you!
Take it one day, hour, minute at a time.
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| LadyJane |
Sad, but not surprising. 
At least he knows enough to get help.
God Bless you, Ronnie!
LJ. |
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| Moonisup |
this comes not as a surprise to me, and also for others I hope |
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| Main Offender |
God bless you, Ronnie. The "Serenity Prayer" will help you accept this challenge and give you the strength to change this demon. You are not alone. I will pray for you daily. |
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| Busch1 |
Hasn't he been up and around and doing gigs all over the place? Just wonder if this is a real "check-in" stay for a relapse, or is just maybe doing some type of group therapy or something to keep him from falling off the wagon. Not that a relapse would surprise me, but it seems like he's the most active of the bunch right now. I'd think he'd have a hard time doing as much as he is if he was really hitting the bottle hard again. |
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| Monkey Woman |
Sad sad sad! I hope Ronnie will really kick the drink & fag habit this time. It could be his death. And a sore blow to the Stones and their fans.
Good thing he has his family and friends to support him. |
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| Monkey Woman |
Sirmoonie, is it wise to attack MO when this poster writes something sympathetic and unoffensive to anybody? If you react to some other posts he made at another time or on another board, then you run the risk to push MO to make fresh new attacks. 
BTW, you must have noted that the jabs MO took at "somebody" in the T-shirt thread have been deleted by Gazza and the other inflamed thread deleted by Voodoo. Obviously, our revered administrators don't let things go too far... Double dose of !
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| Bloozehound |
Serenity Prayer huh |
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| caro |
It must be hard : either you're on tour and you're happy and everything pushes you to drink, or you're not on tour and you drink to pass the time...
Are a few relapses a normal thing even for drinkers who will manage to stay away from booze in the end? |
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| Monkey Woman |
http://open-mind.org/Serenity.htm
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| littleredrooster |
Ronnie needs to tour in order to kick his alcoholism!
He was the best in recent years during Licks !
Roostah |
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| Gazza |
>BTW, you must have noted that the jabs MO took at "somebody" in the T-shirt thread have been deleted by Gazza and the other inflamed thread deleted by Voodoo. Obviously, our revered administrators don't let things go too far... Double dose of !
simple reason. "Main Offender" is the same user who posted here previously as ShineALight and was banned some months ago. She also posts on Gas x 3 as DemonLife. (the IP numbers are identical). During the recent disagreement we had with Keno she made a series of posts sticking up for the guy on his own board, then came here using a different screen name to bad mouth him and post abuse at him, simply for the sake of shit-stirring and enticing other people to do the same.
Regardless of any problems we've had with Keno in the last week or so (which we're dealing with ourselves), we're none too happy at some hypocritical troll trying to make things worse by kissing his ass on his own board to get on his good side then defaming him on here.
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| Moonisup |
I can post! |
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| scratched |
I can't. |
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| glencar |
I knew Main Offender was the same sick bitch as Shiny Light. She lied about it, natch. |
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| glencar |
As for the more important matter of Ronnie's drinking, I hope he gets the help he needs. What a horrible way to live. |
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| LadyJane |
quote:
glencar wrote:
I knew Main Offender was the same sick bitch as Shiny Light. She lied about it, natch.
Unbelievable....I should have known. Psychopath.
Sorry to hijack...Ronnie, Be Strong
LJ.
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| Ten Thousand Motels |
From what I understand, now I don't know about this particular clinic, most rehabs use the AA approach/disease concept model. I like the Rational Recovery model better because it's not a disease thing....it's about personal resposibility. Rehabs just don't work for some people. But since I'm not an expert on these things, I can just wish the guy the best and hope he finds his way. |
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| Soldatti |
Come on Woody, be strong on this!
We don't want loose you... |
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| BILL PERKS |
quote:
Soldatti wrote:
Come on Woody, be strong on this!
We don't want loose you...
RIGHT |
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| Ten Thousand Motels |
Well Goddammit. Woody doesn't have to go to rehab. I'll bet Keith's got a room for him in CT for a couple of months???? August in New England is about the only nice weather up here. A month off in NE, spending some quality time with Keith and playing guitars would do wonders. |
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| Gazza |
"Quality time" with a fellow alcoholic and chain-smoker?
I can't think of anyone who would be less qualified to be his "minder" for a few weeks right now!
What next? A cosy weekend with Courtney Love? LOL
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| Monkey Woman |
Er, I don't think so, TTM. Quality time with Keith generally involves fags and liquor... He wouldn't make Ronnie take it by force of course But there's the temptation... In close company with Keith for a week or two, without another "role model", it's almost guaranteed hed'd have another relapse .
Edit: He he! Gazza beat me to it! I didn't think about Courtney, though! LOL
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| Bloozehound |
quote:
Monkey Woman wrote:
Er, I don't think so, TTM. Quality time with Keith generally involves fags and liquor...
I learn something new everyday lol
No seriously...this isn't good for the band.
His spending "quality time" with Keith and the boys was probably one of the main causes of his problems to begin with, but this is a real catch-22 situation, it's almost like these guys are damned if they do, damned if they don't.
Drugs, booze & addiction are the occupational hazards of being a musician. On one hand these things can spark them on to new creative levels, and help cushion the effects of the fame and attention, but on the other hand it tears down their abilities.
I can't imagine how difficult it must be to try and distance yourself from these things after you've spent just your entire adult life surrounded by drugs and booze, especially if you're a part of such a drug friendly band as the rockin' Rolling Stones.
I'm not a Ronnie basher, but I don't know if the Woodman is strong enough to turn over a new leaf without retiring or totally distancing himself from the music scene. Maybe he needs to start hanging out with Clapton, take up bicycling, or do something else besides the Stones for a while. |
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| Ten Thousand Motels |
quote:
Monkey Woman wrote:
Er, I don't think so, TTM. Quality time with Keith generally involves fags and liquor... He wouldn't make Ronnie take it by force of course But there's the temptation... In close company with Keith for a week or two, without another "role model", it's almost guaranteed hed'd have another relapse .
Edit: He he! Gazza beat me to it! I didn't think about Courtney, though! LOL
Well I dunno. Either drink like a man or go to rehab I guess.... personally I think the disease concept of alcoholism will go down in history like the flat earth and black hole theorys that whiz kid Hawkings has just denounced. Probably killed as many "recovering alcoholics" as it saved. I think the RR guys are closer to the truth. The disease concept creates victims. Three or 4 days ago they "declared" Obesity a "disease". Ronnie could go and visit Keith for the next year and NOT have a drink at all if he didn't want to. Or have a drink if he did want to.
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| kahoosier |
Ten Thousand Motels,thank you so much for mentioning rational recovery. In the late 80's, 12 steps did me no good and rational recovery saved my life and carreer. I think you need to be stronger, or at least more greatly motivated to use RR than 12 steps.
What is weird is that all these years later, even though they did not help me get sober, I find that many of the 12 steps are a good way to live a happy life.
Ronnie needs to find something to help him. He is so lucky to have Jo around. It must be so hard when his major income forces him to work closely with one of the most un repentant substance abusers around. Both programs are big on getting away from bad influences. I am sure to be cruicified here, but I would rather see Ron walk away and live then return to a working environment that makes his soberity difficult. While the touring may keep him busy,Keith cannot be seen as a good role model or partner to a guy that may die of his substance abuse.
As the two grow older, we all need to remember that the dead Righteous Brother and the OX were not infamous substance abusers, but had years of quiet use that coupled with advancing age and a single last "good time" proved fatal. Maybe fans should think about that before they throw their next "package" onto the stage for Keith. |
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| Monkey Woman |
quote:
Ten Thousand Motels wrote:
Well I dunno. Either drink like a man or go to rehab I guess....
Better not drink "like a man" if it makes him a corpse! Liver and heart problems caused by heavy drinking (in just about anybody except Keith Richards!) are not just a question of will. Or it would be less of a disaster.
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The disease concept creates victims.
Ha! Would that I had known that when I suffered from asthma, I'd have told that to my bloody lungs! 
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Ronnie could go and visit Keith for the next year and NOT have a drink at all if he didn't want to. Or have a drink if he did want to.
That's precisely what RECOVERED alcoholics can do. If they are NOT recovered yet, as Ronnie seems by his relapses, they can't. Wether it is by RR or 12 steps, the important thing is to heal. |
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| Ten Thousand Motels |
quote:
Monkey Woman wrote:
Ha! Would that I had known that when I suffered from asthma, I'd have told that to my bloody lungs!
Well asthma is a bone-fide pyhsical disease that can be objectively verified? The only thing that verifies alcoholism as a disease is the word of experts who have been in the pay of corrupt politicians for the last hundred years. Or 50, when they decided that personal responsibilty was passe. RR Flys in the face of all that. |
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| Monkey Woman |
Oh, I smell a conspiracy...  |
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