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| MarthaMyDear |
I posted something different previously but I'm changing it now so people know exactly what I am talking about and so that no one gets confused, etc.... Anyways, this whole thread on this page and which CONTINUES on this page (Page 2): http://novogate.com/board/968/143828-2.html is about an UNOFFICIAL Rolling Stones fan club called the Rolling Stones Fan Club Office and their fanzine, the Stones Planet fanzine, and the woman who runs the Scandinavian and UK, etc., part of that fan club, Charlotte Schultz. This is a warning to ANYONE, Stones fans and all consumers alike, who plan to do ANY type of business with this woman or fan club and/or join this fan club, etc. to NOT DO SO because this woman has not only been well-known to rip-off Stones fans in the past but continues to spam this message board and do NUMEROUS things that other people know about (that I, actually, don't know about, as far as I'm aware)... I will list just SOME of the things she has done and then I will post the link to this UNOFFICIAL fan club so you will know to avoid it if you should come across it in the future, etc., AND I will post a link to the fan club you SHOULD NOT AVOID because there is just NO COMPARISON between these fan clubs as IORR FAR out-does the RSFCO and I will, also, post a link to another fanzine which is top-notch, like the one that IORR puts out, also, so you can subscribe to that one, also, if you'd like!!! 
Anyways, here are just SOME of the things this con artist, Charlotte Schultz, has done and what she does with her fan club, etc.:
1.) During the Bridges To Babylon tour, she sold Rolling Stones tickets to Stones fans as well as VIP passes and when these fans showed-up at the venue the day of the show to pick-up their tickets and VIP passes AFTER HAVING PAID HER FOR THEM, THE TICKETS AND VIP PASSES WEREN'T THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not only that, but it took them A LONG TIME to get their money back from that MAJOR FIASCO after CONSTANT CONTACT with Charlotte Schultz regarding their money!!!
2.) They have used false advertising and marketing tecniques since they have been online to sell their fan club memberships and later on their Stones Planet fanzine and free email address ([email protected]), which you could buy also, such as:
They post as the title on at least two pages on their web site that they have "38 Years Of Experience". They also used to post that they are an OFFICIAL fan club and contiue to argue that they at least USED to be official through deceptive wording, etc., on their web site (there are, actually, several examples of deceptive wording on their web site... No doubt Charlotte Schultz taking advantage of the fact that she is Swedish and uses her poor English DECEPTIVELY!!!). Those are both LIES!!! The TRUTH is:
The fan club was "active" in the 60s in Copenhagen and early 70s, not as one "official club", if you read their permissions, they got official blessings to run a fan club in Copenhagen and the authorization comes from the English fan club, NOT FROM THE ROLLING STONES as well *(where you BECOME official... You have to be given permission from the Rolling Stones THEMSELVES, which they were NOT!!!).
Anyway, let�s say it was �official� up to 1973, they did not have activity until 1998 when they resurrected a dead fan club taking advantage of the internet and introducing themselves as the �Only official Fan Club of UK and Scandinavia�.
3.) You can read in this thread (or on the next page...) that I, unfortunately, made a web site for a company that Charlotte Schultz knows and I never got paid for it (she owes me hundreds of dollars)!!!
4.) She has CONTINUALLY spammed this message board for YEARS using different "aliases/screen names", etc., attacking not only me but at least two of the administrators here and even going so far as to post pornographic pictures on this message board claiming they are one of the administrator's pictures!!!
5.) As far as I know, she has used several different first names at LEAST since the 70's... This is what con artists and CROOKS do, basically!!! Here are the names THAT I KNOW OF!!!:
Preben Schultz
Charlotte Schultz
Pia Schultz
AND, that is JUST THE BEGINNING!!!
Anyways, so here is the crook's web site and fan club so you know to avoid getting ripped-off in any way by her and PLEASE read the rest of this thread and ESPECIALLY the rest of this thread here (on Page 2): http://novogate.com/board/968/143828-2.html because that page really tells you in more detail of what she has done and continues to do, etc....
This is a warning of a con artist and for YOU, the BUYER, to ***MAJORLY*** BEWARE!!!:
AVOID THEM 'CAUSE THEY SUCK!!!:
the Rolling Stones Fan Club Office and their fanzine, the Stones Planet fanzine:
http://www.stonesplanet.com
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http://www.stones2002.com
THE STONES FAN CLUB AND FANZINE THAT IS GREAT!!!:
It's Only Rock 'N Roll- The Rolling Stones Fan Club Of Europe:
http://www.iorr.org
ANOTHER GREAT STONES FANZINE TO SUBSCRIBE TO, IF YOU'D LIKE!!!:
Stones People fanzine:
http://www.stonespeople.com
If you have any questions regarding this post or anything else, etc., please just feel free to Private Message me here (my User Name is: MarthaMyDear). Thank you very much for reading and have a GREAT rest of the week!!! Take care and keep the internet CLEAN OF CROOKS!!! ROCK ON!!!
*** Martha ***
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| Moonisup |
you rock |
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| VoodooChileInWOnderl |
quote:
MarthaMyDear wrote:
I am warning you that THEY SUCK
They don't Martha, only Charlotte does it, and she does it like anybody else. Massimo Bonanno is a great journalist author of serious stuff about the Stones who also is a victim of this �person�.
For years, not weeks or months, for years, and not just a few but several times we have deleted messages like the above, we even lost registered regulars because of that, when they were victims of fraudulent operations by Charlotte.
But in the last crap by this loser we warned her and her partners, this is the last time we complain privately and we're not going to delete any message mentioning the obscure history about you. By the way, this is not the first attack since then. Also in that letter I stated �We are going to keep this secret, not using our own heavy-traffic board to talk about her as YOU are involved in some way. Next time it will not be the case.� (the letter ��Report of spam and abuse by Charlotte� was directed to Blue Lena and Massimo Bannano)
So feel free to post about the self called "Only Official Rolling Stones Fan Club", that we all know is not official and if it was it was in the early 60s and only in Denmark.
If they were official, why the Stones never made a mention as it was the case of Beggars Banquet announced in the Undercover album? Why there is not a single mention to that �club� in all issues of Beggars Banquet?
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| VoodooChileInWOnderl |
One more thing, to compare Charlotte with Bj�rnulf is a blaspheme, not because Bj�rnulf is God but Charlotte is trash at their Essence |
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| Nasty Habits |
MarthaMyDear, did anyone ever tell you you're beautiful when you're angry?
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| VoodooChileInWOnderl |
I also want to let you know that we have never used this board to talk about her when she has done it at her own board and we have proofs.
We always delete offensive messages as soon as we read it and you all know, we don't care who's right and who's wrong, we simply don't want this message board to be used for fights.
This also has nothing to do with the attack to Jaxx, but we warned the club leaders about not deleting more messages about the club some months ago when she did something really nasty to us and we had the nerve to keep it confidential. |
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| Moonisup |
who fucks with Rocks off will get fucked even harder, maybe not now, but later haha
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| Toronto Tom |
Blue Lena is a very nice person and I have met her a number of times. I also used to get the fan mag it was nice and they let the fans imput there thoughts all the time and pictures. I had my pictures or had an article in it. However once the tour started and money needed to be spent in other directions cuts had to be made and IORR does put out a much nicer mag. Love the pics they have had in that mag this tour. GReat stuff. |
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| MarthaMyDear |
Yes, that wasn't fair of me, actually, to say THEY SUCK... Charlotte is the one who mostly sucks, is what I meant to say!!! I don't think very highly of Blue Lena either!!! I'm sorry, Gerardo, about just "letting it all hang out" above but I do think that people need to be warned about this creature... lol........................ Sorry, but this witch just brings out the worst in me, I swear to God!!! CAN YOU TELL?!?!?! ROTFLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes, there is NO comparison between her fan club and IORR... IORR is just, obviously, the best Stones fan club around, IMHO... So, if you want me to edit any messages I post in this thread, Gerardo, or any of the Unholy Trinity, etc., I will do so ASAP... And, thank you, Nasty Habits, for your nice post, also, but you wouldn't want to be around me when I'm like the above post of mine or WORSE!!! HE!!! HE!!! HE!!! HE!!! HE!!! lol..........................................................
Anyways, Gerardo, Jaxx, and/or Gazza... If you want to edit or delete my post(s) or have me do it, etc., I will ASAP, so just let me know, ok.?!?!?! I think I'm goping to have to FINALLY read your F.A.Q.... HE!!! HE!!! HE!!! HE!!! HE!!! :\ :\ :\ :\ :\ :\ :\ :\ :\ :\
Anyways, here is just one other thing the creature did (there's ALOT MORE but I can't be posting all day today... ROTFLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)... lol..................................
She listed her fan club site on the UBL (Unlimited Band List web site) like this:
The Official Rolling Stones Site (Scandinavia & UK)
This is the official site for Scandinavia and the UK since 1964--check it out!
Here is the link to this false advertising:
http://ubl.artistdirect.com/music/artist/webs/0,,486584,00.html?src=search
*** Martha ***
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| Sue |
So now they are not just an official club but their website is also official LOL, she ain't nothing but a liar and a thief. |
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| Gazza |
>I know that Gary is probably not going to be pleased with my post as I know he HATES spam, etc.
Dont worry about it. As far as I'm concerned, alerting Stones fans about people like this is part of the service that a message board SHOULD provide - as its related to Stones activities, youre not spamming. Posting messages warning people they may be ripped off by an individual is perfectly reasonable.
I dont really consider it flaming either as I personally know the reasons why you're pissed at her and I think you have every right to be. Seeing what we've had to deal with at various intervals from her in the last couple of years, I can well believe she's capable of anything and IMO deserves anything she gets.
For the record, I'm not a member of the fan club in question - one of the reasons I didnt join was simply because I won't have anything to do with anything that bitch is associated with and I found the way she promoted it whilst at the same time undermining every other board and fan organisation out there to be beneath contempt. I wont even LOOK at her webpage, in fact. It speaks volumes that so many of the main high traffic boards in the Stones community (eg Rocks Off, Gas x 3, Shidoobee and IORR - plus the Undercover Digest for that matter) can work together for the benefit of fans everywhere yet this particular individual cant do the same and is so driven by a ridiculously competitive envy that she SPAMS other boards instead.
I'd just add to what Gerardo posted earlier in this thread about Blue Lena and Massimo,who have always struck me as genuine fans who I personally dont have any problem with (I met Lena in London 4 years ago and Massimo is an author and historian whose work I respect). Too bad for them they have to work alongside such a low life. |
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| MarthaMyDear |
Thank you, Gazza, for your post...
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| Fiji Joe |
Aww...Fiji is cracking his knuckles in anticpation of yoke slapping this bitch |
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| moy |
is it real that this club has been active in the uk and scandinavia since 1964? |
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| jb |
I think Charlotte is wonderful!!! |
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| MarthaMyDear |
moy, I don't know for sure but I THINK so... Shut-up, Joshy From The Block... lol................................................ :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P  
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| Sir Stonesalot |
OMG MMD...you had me in stitches!
Cuntwipe! Woooooooooooooooooooooohahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Is that a product made by "Tucks"?
Bwaaaahahahahahaha!
You are DEFINATELY getting nominated for "funniest" this year.
Emoticon on baby! |
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| Fiji Joe |
Dang...has Joey seen what you did to Hagman? |
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| VoodooChileInWOnderl |
quote:
moy wrote:
is it real that this club has been active in the uk and scandinavia since 1964?
No they haven�t. It was "active" in the 60s in Copenhagen and early 70s, not as one "official club", if you read their permissions, they got official blessings to run a fan club in Copenhagen and the authorization comes from the English fan club, not from the Stones as well.
When they got the authorization the permission says that the Club in Denmark is already managed by Fred Van Breman in Rotterdam.
The permission was granted to Preben Schultz in Copenhagen I�m not sure if it is Charlotte, as her real full name is Pia Charlotte Schultz, she currently lives in Genaro, Sweden.
It's different to be an official fan club like the one we have now in which they have completely support and direction from the band and its management.
Also Beggars Banquet was official, it was not a club in the sense of the word but an official fanzine and with many activities of a club fan like contests, offers, participation, etc and having Bill German in direct contact with the band for years. It was announced in 1983 as the official newsletter with the Undercover Album and lasted until 1996 when Bill decided to close it. More than seventeen years of Rolling Stones History!
There is not a single mention to that club in the entire �Beggars Banquet� days.
Anyway, let�s say it was �official� up to 1973, they did not have activity until 1998 when they resurrected a dead fan club taking advantage of the internet and introducing themselves as the �Only official Fan Club of UK and Scandinavia�.
They sold VIP passes and tickets without any authorization and stole many fans their money, it was well known in many forums including the official website.
Later they changed the name of the club, but again not with a name, a real name, now it was �The Rolling Stones Office�, yes �THE ROLLING STONES OFFICE�, pretending to look like something entirely linked to the band and 100% official.
Later at least they added �FAN CLUB� so the name is now �THE ROLLING STONES FAN CLUB OFFICE� or RSFCO, they must give that fan club a name, that name is again trying to look like official.
Finally when the real �Rolling Stones Official Fan Club� appeared last year they added this legend in her website:
We are a completely separate fan club & are not at all affiliated with the Official Rolling Stones Fan Club run by Clear Channel Entertainment. They began their club in May 2002, we began ours in June 1964!
LOL, if you wanna have a laugh read her FAQs
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| VoodooChileInWOnderl |
quote:
jb wrote:
I think Charlotte is wonderful!!!
Wonderful? LOL Wonderful my ass!!!
Is it wonderful to pay for tix with VIP passes and don�t have anything back?
LOL
For years we have had deleted all the offensive message the fans use to post about the obscure past of this club, defending the club just because is something make by �fans� of the same band we�re fans.
What do we have in exchange:
1.- Regulars quitting because of us defending the club.
2.- Damaging our own reputation appearing like partners in crime of that club.
2.- Direct insults from Charlotte to Gazza when we had the Inside The Web board long time ago, she was not internet expert and left the same IP, she was busted immediately and denied everything.
3.- She spammed a poll about the best website in a poll by Keno, when she was busted she started to talk lies about us.
4.- She has insulted regulars of this board using other names, she always is the first to start a fight.
5.- We recently had a very nice link in an European Website of Rock, she mailed the webmaster to delete that link. She then posted in our own board laughing about it and then in her own board when we deleted that nasty message. (I can post the letter �Report of spam and abuse by Charlotte.�
It�s a long story, is years of spam and just because we appreciate Blue Lena and Massimo we have kept this secret, but in our last message to Lena and Massimo we warned them. THIS IS GOING TO BE THE LAST TIME WE KEEP THIS JUST BETWEEN YOU AND US.
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| Martha |
Martha My Dear..you really ARE a Dear for posting a warning to people like myself who have not had the err.. pleasure of being ripped-off, bound and gagged by this person. Hopefully, I can now avoid them like the plague.
I really appreciate the warning.
I agree SS,...Martha My Dear is becoming a shoe-in for the funniest category in 2003!
JB, do you REALLY love this worm of a person????
Or are you just joshing us?
If you are joshing us, please be advised of the following:
No category exists for this type of...(can I really call it this?) humor.
Better luck next time.
Hee hee.
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| VoodooChileInWOnderl |
LOL Martha!
I can tell you that when I cybermet Charlotte I would say "she's fine", not wonderful, but "fine" probably "nice"
Probably she was nice trying to get my membership or get advantage. Now I know what kind of person I was dealing with and what I got for it. |
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| moy |
i think this could be of interest, last week i posted a ronnie wood interview here at the board and then i received this e-mail, i'm eliminating the name of the person, probably is charlotte or a "victim"
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 21:16:12 -0500
Thanks for posting the interview.
It ended up on the Shidoobee board where I read it.
I showed it to some people who want to know who
James Brown is. (interviewer)
Where did this first appear?
Thanks again,
i replied this person with the link gazza posted about the actual magazine with the interview, instead of own link with the on-line interview, gazza's link is to the magazine but it has not the interview.
now stonesplanet has the information about the magazine, when that link doesn't show via search engine also in her website she talks about the author "james brown" and it was one of the questions
i didn't receive a "thank you" from the person who asked about the interview and I have sent more than three messages to her with no reply
in her website she is not giving a link to the jack website and the image is now part of her website
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| Rolling Hansie |
First of all, I really know nothing about any RSFCO scam going on. Neither am I looking to get in trouble with anyone on this board. I just sense a lot of hatred towards Charlotte and I don't know why this is. I am a member of the RSFCO, just as I am a member of IORR Norway, Stones People Holland, Basement News Germany, Shattered Holland, and Stone People Japan. Yes, I am a bit nuts :-), but I just love being a member of as many stonesclubs as I can.
I joined the RSFCO because Blue Lena asked me. I have known Blue Lena very well for many years now, and I still think she's a darling.
I am really very much surprised and upset by all these stories, because I haven't been into any trouble with neither Charlotte nor the RSFCO. But by reading these messages it looks to me that people think she must have done some terrible things to people here. Where else can this hatred come from? Is it possible, without hurting anyone's feelings, to inform me about what has been going on? I mean facts and figures, not opinions or personal feelings. I would really appreciate this. |
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| MarthaMyDear |
Rolling Hansie, JUST SOME of the facts and figures are above, mostly in Gerardo's/Voodoo Chile In Wonderland's) posts and, also, in Toronto Tom's post about the VIP tickets, etc., rip-off occurance (or, shall we say, scam)... CHARLOTTE actually owes me hundreds of dollars (close to $600.00) because of a web site that I, admittedly, STUPIDLY did for a company that she knows and she NEVER PAID ME!!! I am late to an appointment this morning, but I will give you the facts and figures here or through private email late this evening (but more than likely, early tomorrow morning) as I am going to be gone all day today and this evening...
Anyways, just post a reply, if you'd like, of course, and I'll do the same... Take care and have a GREAT day!!!
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| Rolling Hansie |
quote:
Tom wrote:
What about the VIP passes they sold during the B2B Tour? We didn't receive any ticket, VIP pass or explanation, they simply stole our money
Please Tom, Give me more information. I was a member of the RSFCO during B2B, and I can't remember them offering VIP passes |
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| Rolling Hansie |
quote:
MarthaMyDear wrote:
Rolling Hansie,I will give you the facts and figures here or through private email late this evening (but more than likely, early tomorrow morning
Thank you Martha
I will wait patiently |
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| Rolling Hansie |
quote:
VoodooChileInWOnderl wrote:
Is it wonderful to pay for tix with VIP passes and don�t have anything back?
Oh my, I really would like to have more details about this. You actually sent money to RSFCO, didn't get your tickets, and then you didn't get a refund? |
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| Miss U. |
This is all news to me.
What I DO know through my Own personal experience is that Voodoo goes out of his way to delete flames here, and that this site always lists their sources. I was here when the emphasis was mostly just on articles.
I submitted an article this past fall to the RSFCO, they seemed fine then, but don't know them personally.
Web netiquette, honesty, strong action to eliminate flamers, and crediting sources are very important to keep good relations among webmasters.
People who thrive on nastyness, flaming others, harassment and spreading lies really are a tarnish on Stones fans. |
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| glencar |
Martha My Dear, I'm so sorry you got screwed (you know what I'm saying...). I think we do need specifics though. I haven't dealt too much with Charlotte (financially) and I'd like to know what she's done. BTW this isn't the first time an alleged Stones fan has ripped off other Stones fans. I used to participate at rockonline.com's Voodoo Lounge (it looks like the site is defunct) and Rick Werner (an asocial scumbag) ripped us off at the Giants Stadium show in 1997. He also made threats & held one friend against her will. The internet is great but there are some sickass bastards out there who are so desperate for money and other things tha they'll do anything for it. So please, let us know what she actually did, here on this thread. |
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