Absolutely not!...In fact, IMO, it's meant to be enjoyed in the collective, at the expense of the individual who deserved to be "oh snap"ed
Example:
Bucky is so white, he pisses milk and shits chalk...
Response:
[Edited by Fiji Joe]
Back to Snapgaffe '08 - I guess what I meant by my question was, does the person Snapped have to be present in the thread or at least a member of the board known to all parties for his foibles or can he/she who be the Snapped be a prominent political/celebrity figure?
For instance: Keith Richards is such a big alcoholic AA announced that the number of steps he'd have to take to complete the program would require him to walk to the moon and back?
Or: Rev. Wright's such a race hater they oughta call him NASKKKAR.
Or is that NAASCARP?
Shit. I hold on . . . let me figure this out . . .
20th March 2008 02:06 PM
pdog
quote:nankerphelge wrote:
"Any attempt to understand the difference between the privileged white perspective and the black experience will subject you to ridicule from those seeking to obscure the reality of racism in America."
I know you Harvard types reflexively throw the word "privileged" ahead of any occurnece of "white" to emphasize the guilt that we all should feel.
But your suggestion that Wright's speech is acceptable because of this "black experience" is pure apologist bullshit.
Racism is racism.
Stop making excuses for Wright's hate and Obama's poor judgment.
What d you get when you use poor judgement. Well in Chicago, an old black guy in church is going to blame whitey. If you pick a guy from the military complex to lead your army to war, you get a war you can't afford that doesn't end.
You can't bring up poor judgemnt and not have me think of the last 7 years. LJ is right, the angry black ma and the old dude are donr. We get some estrogen, and someone, whether you agree or not, who at least has a plan, knows the difference between muslims sects and isn't an idealist. Too bad she's a Clinton.
20th March 2008 02:10 PM
Fiji Joe
quote:Starbuck wrote:
it ain't mine but fuck it...i'm using it anyway.
How this for a synopsis?:
Obama church published Hamas terror manifesto
Compares charter calling for murder of Jews to Declaration of Independence
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"The candidate of unity"
20th March 2008 02:13 PM
Fiji Joe
quote:pdog wrote:
the angry black ma and the old dude are donr. We get some estrogen, and someone, whether you agree or not, who at least has a plan, knows the difference between muslims sects and isn't an idealist. Too bad she's a Clinton.
Do you have money to wager?...Lots of it?
20th March 2008 02:16 PM
LadyJane
quote:pdog wrote:
LJ is right, the angry black ma and the old dude are donr. We get some estrogen, and someone, whether you agree or not, who at least has a plan, knows the difference between muslims sects and isn't an idealist. Too bad she's a Clinton.
Another vote for Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Love it!!!!!!!!!
LJ.
20th March 2008 02:16 PM
Fiji Joe
quote:Nasty Habits wrote:
Back to Snapgaffe '08 - I guess what I meant by my question was, does the person Snapped have to be present in the thread or at least a member of the board known to all parties for his foibles or can he/she who be the Snapped be a prominent political/celebrity figure?
For instance: Keith Richards is such a big alcoholic AA announced that the number of steps he'd have to take to complete the program would require him to walk to the moon and back?
Or: Rev. Wright's such a race hater they oughta call him NASKKKAR.
Or is that NAASCARP?
Shit. I hold on . . . let me figure this out . . .
It works much better if they post here, but no, there are no limitations in that regard
For example:
Obama hates whitey and although he shook Bucky's hand in public, he called him a "retarded cracker" while firing up a blunt after supper
20th March 2008 02:17 PM
monkey_man
quote:pdog wrote:
We get some estrogen, and someone, whether you agree or not, who at least has a plan, knows the difference between muslims sects and isn't an idealist. Too bad she's a Clinton.
Unfortunately she thinks the telecoms deserve immunity for bypassing the Constitution. . . FUCK THAT SHIT!
20th March 2008 02:17 PM
pdog
Do you guys know of a band called THe Clah? They do a song called White Riot. I decided, you all should try to listen to it soon, and here's the lyrics, it pretty much makes my point and expresses my feelings.
White riot - I wanna riot
White riot - a riot of my own
White riot - I wanna riot
White riot - a riot of my own
Black people gotta lot a problems
But they don't mind throwing a brick
White people go to school
Where they teach you how to be thick
An' everybody's doing
Just what they're told to
An' nobody wants
To go to jail!
All the power's in the hands
Of people rich enough to buy it
While we walk the street
Too chicken to even try it
Everybody's doing
Just what they're told to
Nobody wants
To go to jail!
Are you taking over
or are you taking orders?
Are you going backwards
Or are you going forwards?
20th March 2008 02:20 PM
pdog
quote:Fiji Joe wrote:
Do you have money to wager?...Lots of it?
Money? No dude, I pay $4 for a gallon of gas, I live in SF...
Austin, here we come...
Developing!
20th March 2008 02:26 PM
Nasty Habits
quote:Starbuck wrote:
when 500 comes, i shall miss this thread!
it has "brought the warring factions together" (sean, LJ)!
it has informed us that feej now has a "cankles for prez" sign in his front yard!
the only thing that is left to be resloved is, nasty...tube or crew?
My researches in this topic have taken me to the other side of the looking glass. I can never believe in the sock industry again. I shall spare you the sordid details, the betrayals and broken promises, but suffice to say that the industry was built on the backs of the lowly work sock, and while the tubes suck up the good blow and get in all the hot foot fetish videos, the work sock is kept down, tossed in the trash when it's even slightly worn, if it can get into stores at all.
As far as what I wear? As a stinky leftist goose stepping hippie, I go barefoot. Same as you.
20th March 2008 02:30 PM
pdog
I fucking hate hippies and their stinking feet. They're what is destroying America!
20th March 2008 02:34 PM
Nasty Habits
quote:pdog wrote:
Do you guys know of a band called THe Clah? They do a song called White Riot. I decided, you all should try to listen to it soon, and here's the lyrics, it pretty much makes my point and expresses my feelings.
White riot - I wanna riot
White riot - a riot of my own
White riot - I wanna riot
White riot - a riot of my own
Black people gotta lot a problems
But they don't mind throwing a brick
White people go to school
Where they teach you how to be thick
An' everybody's doing
Just what they're told to
An' nobody wants
To go to jail!
All the power's in the hands
Of people rich enough to buy it
While we walk the street
Too chicken to even try it
Everybody's doing
Just what they're told to
Nobody wants
To go to jail!
Are you taking over
or are you taking orders?
Are you going backwards
Or are you going forwards?
And, me? I'm this guy . . .
Midnight to six man
For the first time from Jamaica
Dillinger and Leroy Smart
Delroy Wilson, your cool operator
Ken Boothe for UK pop reggae
With backing bands sound systems
And if they've got anything to say
There's many black ears here to listen
But it was Four Tops all night with encores from stage right
Charging from the bass knives to the treble
But onstage they ain't got no roots rock rebel
Onstage they ain't got no...roots rock rebel
Dress back jump back this is a bluebeat attack
'Cos it won't get you anywhere
Fooling with your guns
The British Army is waiting out there
An' it weighs fifteen hundred tons
White youth, black youth
Better find another solution
Why not phone up Robin Hood
And ask him for some wealth distribution
Punk Rockers in the UK
They won't notice anyway
They're all too busy fighting
For a good place under the lighting
The new groups are not concerned
With what there is to be learned
They got Burton suits, ha you think it's funny
Turning rebellion into money
All over people changing their votes
Along with their overcoats
If Adolf Hitler flew in today
They'd send a limousine anyway
I'm the all night drug-prowling wolf
Who looks so sick in the sun
I'm the white man in the Palais
Just lookin' for fun
I'm only
Looking for fun
Oh please mister just leave me alone
i'm only looking for fun
20th March 2008 02:34 PM
Starbuck
quote:Black people gotta lot a problems
But they don't mind throwing a brick
White people go to school
Where they teach you how to be thick
An' everybody's doing
Just what they're told to
An' nobody wants
To go to jail!
isn't this the famous "missing verse" of cornbread hex?
20th March 2008 02:37 PM
pdog
There's no place in this world for the angry white man.
20th March 2008 02:38 PM
monkey_man
quote:pdog wrote:
I fucking hate hippies and their stinking feet. They're what is destroying America!
20th March 2008 02:39 PM
Fiji Joe
quote:Starbuck wrote:
isn't this the famous "missing verse" of cornbread hex?
You only think about yourself...
Obama's Church of SlursWed Mar 19, 3:00 AM ET
It's Damage Control Time for the liberal press. Count New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof as one in the media masses who have been outraged, just outraged, at the supposed conservative bigotry against Barack Obama. This "most monstrous bigotry" isn't just about race but also religion. Stating his middle name and whispering on the Internet that he's a Muslim "are the religious equivalent of racial slurs."
Kristof concluded his March 9 column by quoting Martin Luther: "I'd rather be ruled by a wise Turk than a foolish Christian."
Through months of outrage over Obama the Supposed Muslim, reporters have largely ignored the church Obama attends in Chicago. The Trinity United Church of Christ claims to be "unashamedly black and unapologetically Christian." It proclaims it's a church of "an African people, who remain 'true to our native land,' the mother continent, the cradle of civilization." You can't tell conservatives that if their church said it was "a European people," committed to the European culture and motherland, that reporters wouldn't smell white supremacy between the lines.
Then there is Obama's minister, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, who in 2007 offered the "Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. Trumpeter Award" to a man who "truly epitomized greatness," anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan, head of the Nation of Islam. Is Nicholas Kristof wanting us to believe that offering awards to Farrakhan is simply the act of a "foolish Christian"? It gives an entirely new meaning to Kristof's headline, "Obama and the Bigots."
Now some very disturbing Jeremiah Wright sermons are bubbling up, sermons where he screams until he's hoarse against America, so angry he can't resist bursting with profanity from the pulpit. In 2003, he built a grand government conspiracy against blacks: "The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strikes law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no, no, God d—- America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people. God d—- America for treating our citizens as less than human. God d—- America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme."
Five days after 9/11, Rev. Wright was condemning America as bringing on the al-Qaeda attacks with our own terrorism: "We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye," he yelled. "We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost."
Are we to believe that on the first Sunday after 9/11 — when many Americans crowded into churches looking to mourn, looking for answers, looking for community — that Barack Obama decided to skip church?
ABC's Brian Ross found these words and then noted Obama has professed, "I don't think my church is actually particularly controversial." He said Rev. Wright "is like an old uncle who says things I don't always agree with," telling a Jewish group that everyone has someone like that in their family.
How in the world can the same media that roundly condemned George W. Bush in 2000 because he "stood uncritically" at Bob Jones University now accept this crazy-uncle defense? ABC's George Stephanopoulos suggested Bush's standard stump speech there made him a "Kamikaze conservative." That was a single moment on Bush's campaign schedule. Barack Obama's been attending his crazy uncle's church for 20 years; that crazy uncle married him and baptized his children, too.
Once these statements hit the airwaves, Obama repudiated them but then suggested that those mean-spirited conservatives were at it again. "I noticed over the last several weeks that the forces of division have started to raise their ugly heads again," Obama declared. But the "forces of division" were right there within his campaign — until Obama expelled his minister from his African American religious leadership team.
Barack Obama looks phony either way. Either he missed all of these sermons, meaning his "devout Christian" talk on CBS doesn't match his church attendance record, or he sincerely thinks that hateful, race-baiting, America-bashing sermons are part of a pleasant Sunday worship experience. The press has an obligation to pursue this.
If Obama really meant any of this rhetoric about healing racial divisions — in any of his speeches over many months of campaigning — he would have quit his hate-spewing minister and his Church of Slurs a long time ago. If the media ever meant to be fair and balanced instead of a real-life comedy sketch full of slavish Obama myth-builders, they would have found this story a long time ago.
L. Brent Bozell III is the president of the Media Research Center. To find out more about Brent Bozell III, and read features by other Creators Syndicate writers and cartoonists, visit the Creators Syndicate Web page at www.creators.com.
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20th March 2008 02:59 PM
Fiji Joe
quote:monkey_man wrote:
Unfortunately she thinks the telecoms deserve immunity for bypassing the Constitution. . . FUCK THAT SHIT!
His enormous retardedness aside, he leads both democrat challengers in the polls...Where does this man go to church?!?!
Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
Thursday, March 20, 2008
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows John McCain’s lead growing against both potential Democratic opponents. McCain currently leads Barack Obama 49% to 42% and Hillary Clinton 51% to 41% margin (see recent daily results). African-American support for Clinton has collapsed, falling to 55% in the general election match-up. Obama, on the other hand, earns solid support from African-American voters but attracts only 36% of white voters in a match-up with McCain.
20th March 2008 03:20 PM
Fiji Joe
quote:wasted wrote:
By any reasonable definition, Clinton is facing long odds to anyone who actually understands how this process works and how delegates are allocated. Whether your a big Clinton supporter, neutral, or a big Obama supporter, them are the facts.
Unfortunately, these numbers were acquired before the American people knew that Obama worships at a racist, anti-american, and anti-semite church...and that he claims the leader of said church as his mentor...America was hoodwinked!...bamboozled!
20th March 2008 03:33 PM
Fiji Joe
Obama's religion...Black Liberation Theology...let's discuss what is at its essence...shall we?...This guy sounds like he's been reading my stuff
ELECTION 2008
Obama pastor's theology: Destroy 'the white enemy'
'If God is not for us and against whites ... we had better kill him'
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Posted: March 17, 2008
10:10 pm Eastern
Rev. Jeremiah Wright in interview last year on 'Hannity and Colmes'
Barack Obama's suddenly radioactive pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, has defended himself against charges of anti-Americanism and racism by referring to his foundational philosophy, the "black liberation theology" of scholars such as James Cone, who regard Jesus Christ as a "black messiah" and blacks as "the chosen people" who will only accept a god who assists their aim of destroying the "white enemy."
"If God is not for us and against white people," writes Cone, "then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill gods who do not belong to the black community."
Wright has not talked to media since video segments of his sermons over the past decade surfaced last week – including one in 2003 in which he encouraged blacks to damn America in God's name. But in a 2007 interview replayed on the Fox News Channel's "Hannity and Colmes" show Friday, he repeatedly fended off Sean Hannity's questions with an appeal to authority, asking if the host had read any of the books of Cone, professor at New York's Union Theological Seminary, or Dwight Hopkins, professor at the University of Chicago's Divinity School, notes the Asia Times columnist who writes under the pseudonym Spengler."
Obama, who has spoken of his pastor of more than 20 years as his mentor and moral compass, "wants to talk about what Wright is, rather than what he says," notes Spengler, by referring him as a "respected biblical scholar, and as someone who taught or lectured at seminaries across the country, from Union Theological Seminary to the University of Chicago."
But Spengler says "that way lies apolitical quicksand."
Cone, he points out, was the most prominent theologian in the "black liberation" school in the 1960s, teaching that Jesus Christ himself is black.
The theologian explains:
Christ is black therefore not because of some cultural or psychological need of black people, but because and only because Christ really enters into our world where the poor were despised and the black are, disclosing that he is with them enduring humiliation and pain and transforming oppressed slaves into liberating servants.
Rather than viewing God as a sovereign being who does as he wills according to his purposes, Cone insists God must do what we want him to do, or we must reject him.
What the black community wants, Cone says, is for God to assist in its goal of destroying "the white enemy."
Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill gods who do not belong to the black community
... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.
'I reject outright'
As WND reported yesterday, Wright's Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago has removed from the "About Us" page of its website a section outlining its radical belief system for blacks.
Obama issued a statement Friday referring to the taped statements from sermons, saying he strongly condemned and denounced "some inflammatory and appalling remarks [Wright] made about our country, our politics, and my political opponents."
Despite having been at the church for two decades, Obama said he was not in attendance when Wright made any of the statements and never heard such talk in private conversations.
"Let me say at the outset that I vehemently disagree and strongly condemn the statements that have been the subject of this controversy," Obama said. "I categorically denounce any statement that disparages our great country or serves to divide us from our allies. I also believe that words that degrade individuals have no place in our public dialogue, whether it's on the campaign stump or in the pulpit. In sum, I reject outright the statements by Rev. Wright that are at issue."
Late Friday, Wright stepped down from his formal role in Obama's campaign, as a member of his African American Religious Leadership Committee.
Stamp of approval
Spengler pointed out that in his response to Hannity, Wright "genuinely seemed to believe that the authority of Cone and Hopkins, who now hold important posts at liberal theological seminaries, was sufficient to make the issue go away."
"His faith in the white establishment is touching; he honestly cannot understand why the white reporters at Fox News are bothering him when the University of Chicago and the Union Theological Seminary have put their stamp of approval on black liberation theology," Spengler says.
It's possible, Spengler continues, that Obama "does not believe a word of what Wright, Cone and Hopkins teach."
"Perhaps he merely used the Trinity United Church of Christ as a political stepping-stone," he writes. "African-American political life is centered around churches, and his election to the Illinois state Senate with the support of Chicago's black political machine required church membership. Trinity United happens to be Chicago's largest and most politically active black church."
It seems unlikely Obama would identify with the ideological fits of the black-power movement of the 1960s," Spengler says.
"Obama does not come to the matter with the perspective of an American black, but of the child of a left-wing anthropologist raised in the Third World. ... It is possible that because of the Wright affair Obama will suffer for what he pretended to be, rather than for what he really is."
It kind of all goes to the point of a media bias that has been so obvious in their collective adulation of Barack Obama. The DVDs were available for sale at the man's church! LOL! Did the the DLM even try and dig into his past? No. They just all jerked themselves dry at the thought of a well spoken, liberal/socialist, upper class, black man running for the Democrat nomination that they never even bothered to actually perform any journalism in regards to who this man is. It's going to really fuck the Dem party come convention time. Denver is gonna be fun to watch.
Is there such a thing as Journalistic Malpractice? There should be! Because the unmistakable fact is that the only one reporting on this Rev. Wright controversy for the last year were some conservative print media outlets in Chicago, and Sean Hannity of Fox News. They've been talking this story up for well over a year, and only when one the DLM's own (ABC's-Brian Ross) reports it does it start to really stick to Obama.
Riffy
20th March 2008 03:55 PM
monkey_man
20th March 2008 04:02 PM
Fiji Joe
quote:Riffhard wrote:
It kind of all goes to the point of a media bias that has been so obvious in their collective adulation of Barack Obama. The DVDs were available for sale at the man's church! LOL! Did the the DLM even try and dig into his past? No. They just all jerked themselves dry at the thought of a well spoken, liberal/socialist, upper class, black man running for the Democrat nomination that they never even bothered to actually perform any journalism in regards to who this man is. It's going to really fuck the Dem party come convention time. Denver is gonna be fun to watch.
Is there such a thing as Journalistic Malpractice? There should be! Because the unmistakable fact is that the only one reporting on this Rev. Wright controversy for the last year were some conservative print media outlets in Chicago, and Sean Hannity of Fox News. They've been talking this story up for well over a year, and only when one the DLM's own (ABC's-Brian Ross) reports it does it start to really stick to Obama.
Riffy
Lock-step...I like to refer to it as the tyranny of the stupid...Reading the hypocrisy of their defenses of Obama, defending him, in light of much much greater transgressions than that which they have condemned so called "conservatives" and that which they will continue to condemn those who they perceive as conservative goes beyond comical...it enters the realm of "Jesus Christ!...these people live in my neighborhood...some of them even teach my children"
And I don't need any further clarification of the above statements than these same people's past treatment of John McCain and what will be their future treatment of John McCain...I could give you further clarification...don't be mistaken...but I don't really need to
Sum up all that we have learned of Obama, his mentor and his religion this past week...No reasonable mind can come to any other conclusion that this church, and its religion, is a big part of his makeup..well...you could come up with other conclusions, but they all would be pure subjective speculation...I even tried to give him the benefit of the doubt and came up with some of those conclusions myself...even the most positive spins were very bad...and none of those spins are consistent with his one America babble
And then there are those here (in this thread) who will ignore the facts and espouse that they take him at his word...the "gigglers"...who giggle because, quite frankly, what the fuck else can they do?...They are what they are...and have always been...that which you just described...I wouldn't lump all liberals or democrats in that camp...they're not all in the cult of Obama...but unfortunately for them, too many of them were too early...and yes...they have quite the mess on their hands
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20th March 2008 04:20 PM
glencar
quote:steel driving hammer wrote:
Spoken like a TRUE Brother...
Is this real or some lame-o TV parody?
20th March 2008 04:21 PM
glencar
quote:Dan wrote:
I guess the Republicans should be really thankful Mitt Romney didn't get the nomination.
These black preachers make Mormonism look relatively sane...and that ain't easy!
20th March 2008 04:26 PM
Fiji Joe
quote:glencar wrote:
Is this real or some lame-o TV parody?
It's real...but you see...he is not to blame...it's a product of the "black experience"...and as a "privileged white", you cannot possibly understand...and dare you not criticize...Blahhhh...I'm just bullshittin' ya...fire away
20th March 2008 04:36 PM
glencar
I grew up with less privilege than Obama. I was born in the fucking Bronx & had to deal with tougher blacks than Obama has ever known. This guy is a $2 phony & anyone who supports him is a misguided fool.
20th March 2008 04:37 PM
glencar
But then I see these Clinton assholes on TV & I can see why Obama has gotten some support despite his skin color. It's a burden but he has survived it, nay, thrived!
20th March 2008 04:41 PM
Some Guy
dudes are old...
20th March 2008 04:42 PM
glencar
please, this ain't a VH thread...
20th March 2008 04:43 PM
Some Guy
quote:glencar wrote:
please, this ain't a VH thread...
that's not bad
this thread really needs some OutKast-
