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| guitarman53 |
It's suppose to be Anonymous, but a lot of people know well 'known rock artists who belong to a 12 step program.
1-Pete Townsend.
2-Eric Clapton.
3-Elton John.
4-David Bowie.
5-Ron Wood.
There are a lot who relapse regularly, some once was in a 12 step program who don't go any more (Elton John) there are some who found religion (Alice Cooper) & never went to A.A. or any other program.
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| GhostofBrianJones |
Ringo Starr
Anita Pallenberg
Aerosmith members
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| glencar |
As long as druggies get the help they need, why should we know about it? |
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| guitarman53 |
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GhostofBrianJones wrote:
Ringo Starr
Anita Pallenberg
Aerosmith members
Thanks, your right about that, there are so many people, I can't put it all together. |
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| fireontheplatter |
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glencar wrote:
As long as druggies get the help they need, why should we know about it?
because it makes for fun reading? |
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| glencar |
I just read about Owen Wilson. I guess it's fun - until his next suicide attempt. |
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| pdog |
I've been sober for over 11 years, been goin to AA for about 17 years or so, I have been in meetings with a few famous people... honestly, I at times disclose this, and I really shouldn't give their names up... Even disclosing my own membership can put me in a place were I seem to represent the community. And, it is a community of great people, yet flawed, and when people get loaded, alot of bad shit happens. You don't go there b/c you sang too loud in church.
On a sidenote, Dr. Drew's Celeb Rehab and Intervention are the best comedies I've ever seen on TV.
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| lotsajizz |
I don't like a lot about AA.....except that it works
very little else does |
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| guitarman53 |
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fireontheplatter wrote:
because it makes for fun reading?
Right own, it makes for reading, this is no longer Alcoholics Anonymous, everything is on the news today!! there are programs on T.V. that tell it like it is, this is no longer A.A. in the 30's, this is this age! anybody that knows anybody is in one of these 12 step programs. |
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| chevysales |
quote:
guitarman53 wrote:
It's suppose to be Anonymous, but a lot of people know well 'known rock artists who belong to a 12 step program.
1-Pete Townsend.
2-Eric Clapton.
3-Elton John.
4-David Bowie.
5-Ron Wood.
There are a lot who relapse regularly, some once was in a 12 step program who don't go any more (Elton John) there are some who found religion (Alice Cooper) & never went to A.A. or any other program.
many proggys out there that aren't 12 step related and work... that in fact many use.
pdog you hit on that last bit about dr drew who should still be talking about sex on mtv with adam corolla like 10 years ago... and intervention... ummm yea another comedy...
conr=trary to the 12 step thing there is an actual physical change that comes about for loonnnnnnnnggggggggg term opiate users that very rarily break the cycle....once the brain stops making endomorphones(sp) on its own for a long period it's been shown that very very few make it out... some make it for a time others not at all but if the body no longer produces it something else must or you have one miserable person.
i am not talking about the 5 year user here either... time mag just had an excellent story about a vaccine which of course aclu is fighting... developed by dr tom koston who was here at yale for many years and is now at baylor... an interesting read for those that care... along with an explanation many who read may have a different picture of who/why the opiate addict is who he or she is...
have a read:
http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1701864,00.html
http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1701973,00.html
http://www.bcm.edu/solutions/v3i2/cocaine.html
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| pdog |
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lotsajizz wrote:
I don't like a lot about AA.....except that it works
very little else does
Hahaha... yeah, me too! |
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| guitarman53 |
So what is it that makes these 12 steps work? is it the fact that some people have had enough? & that they had a spiritual
Happening? some people stop, & then some people just go on like nothing has happened to them. |
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| pdog |
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guitarman53 wrote:
So what is it that makes these 12 steps work? is it the fact that some people have had enough? & that they had a spiritual
Happening? some people stop, & then some people just go on like nothing has happened to them.
it's a simple program, not easy... Work is required. AA is my job, god is my employer. I worked the steps with my sponsor, now I work them with sponsees. My job is to stay sober and help other alcoholics. It's not a self help or what do I get program, it is a help others and stop thinking about yourself thing. |
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| glencar |
Wow, that's a great idea! Nothing does us as well as helping others. |
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| pdog |
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glencar wrote:
Wow, that's a great idea! Nothing does us as well as helping others.
Especially alcoholics and addicts, the absolute defintion of selfish is how we behave when using, and sometimes even when we're sober... Honestly, it's a blessing and a curse, at least now that I'm sober. Sometimes I wish i was normal, like you guys...  Seriously, it's awesome, b/c the principles, are simple, help others, feel better and think less of self.... the truth is. When I'm like that, my life rocks, and I get sooooo much back. Regardless, I'm sober, and not smelling like piss and and destroying everyones good time! |
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| glencar |
You're great fun & to be honest, I forgot you were sober in AC until you reminded me. My uncle is in AA & he's the best person I've ever known besides my Mom. |
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| GotToRollMe |
What do you guys think about Ibogaine? I've been hearing all kinds of good things about it. You'd still need a 12-step program to follow it up with, but it looks like a good detox.
http://www.ibogaine-therapy.net/
http://www.ibeginagain.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibogaine |
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| pdog |
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GotToRollMe wrote:
What do you guys think about Ibogaine? I've been hearing all kinds of good things about it. You'd still need a 12-step program to follow it up with, but it looks like a good detox.
http://www.ibogaine-therapy.net/
http://www.ibeginagain.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibogaine
I had a friend do a rapid detox once. He was really strung out bad. They basically kept him asleep for a few days. I never heard of this ibogaine. Need to read more, I stopped when it said gated community in Mexico... |
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| GhostofBrianJones |
Pdog, I am also a member of AA. This time I have been clean for 10 years.
It took me two inpatient and two outpatient treatments to get me to stop.
I try to go as often as I can get out.
If you want the program to work you have to work the program.
I know you don't usually respond to me but I thought I would share my
membership as well as it is good to see other AA members anywhere.
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| pdog |
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GhostofBrianJones wrote:
Pdog, I am also a member of AA. This time I have been clean for 10 years.
It took me two inpatient and two outpatient treatments to get me to stop.
I try to go as often as I can get out.
If you want the program to work you have to work the program.
I know you don't usually respond to me but I thought I would share my
membership as well as it is good to see other AA members anywhere.
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right on.... just wonderin' where you live? |
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| GhostofBrianJones |
Thanks for the reply. I live in St Louis MO. |
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| guitarman53 |
Thanks Pdog & Ghost of Brianjones for sharing, it's a eye opener, this thread was going be about rock stars & it turned into personal lives. |
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| Joey |
" Thanks Pdog & Ghost of Brianjones for sharing, it's a eye opener, this thread was going be about rock stars & it turned into personal lives. "
< ----- Your young Joey drinks with Keith Moon every weekend .
Great --- Thanks Lil' Buddy ( Lil' Fijikins )
Fly ! ™
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| GhostofBrianJones |
Young Joey, please convey my regards to Keith Moon as I and my friends
are very avid fans of Moon. Thanks. |
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| fireontheplatter |
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guitarman53 wrote:
So what is it that makes these 12 steps work? is it the fact that some people have had enough? & that they had a spiritual
Happening?
i think not so much a spiritual happening...more like a religeous experience. |
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| Joey |
quote:
GhostofBrianJones wrote:
Young Joey, please convey my regards to Keith Moon as I and my friends
are very avid fans of Moon. Thanks.
Done .
I saw Keith last evening and he says , " Hi " .
Joey Moon ! |
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| pdog |
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fireontheplatter wrote:
i think not so much a spiritual happening...more like a religeous experience.
religion and spiritual are not the same, it's simply a spiritual experience. Religion is for people who don't want to got hell, spirituality is for people who have been in hell. |
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| guitarman53 |
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pdog wrote:
religion and spiritual are not the same, it's simply a spiritual experience. Religion is for people who don't want to got hell, spirituality is for people who have been in hell.
Thanks Pdog for this, people who have never had the experience don't have a clue as to what their talking about, if you haven't been there, how can you know what it's all about? |
