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| Charlie!Charlie! |
The best Stones-songs i.m.o. are the
'obscure' songs. You know, where the
music is somewhat different and in
which the lyrics are simply fantastic:
- Moon is Up
- Break the Spell
- Heaven
- Feel on Baby
- Fortune Teller
- Goin' Home
- Dirty Work
- Might As Well Get Juiced
- Mona
- 2000 Light Years From Home
- She Smiled Sweetly
- Child Of The Moon
- Shattered
- Parachute Woman
- Midnight Rambler
- Fingerprint File
- Melody
- Emotional Rescue
- You Gotta Move
- Let It Loose
- Can't You Hear The Music?
Wouldn't this be a way better 40 Licks album??!!
Please add.
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| KeithRichards210 |
Uhhh...Midnight Rambler, Shattered, Emotional Rescue, 2000 Light Years From Home- OBSCURE?  |
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| egon |
quote:
Charlie!Charlie! wrote:
know, where the
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"don't stop" |
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| Charlie!Charlie! |
Well... obscure...
I'm dutch...
What's the word?
'Different'?
'Dark'?
'Psychedelic'?
Ah fuck it
Forget about it.
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| Flashpoint |
quote:
Charlie!Charlie! wrote:
The best Stones-songs i.m.o. are the
'obscure' songs. You know, where the
music is somewhat different and in
which the lyrics are simply fantastic:
- Might As Well Get Juiced
- Feel On Baby
- Melody
- Emotional Rescue
- You Gotta Move
- Can't You Hear The Music?
Fantastic Lyrics? Best Stones Songs?
I'm sorry but MAWGJ is beyond Stone taste...i respect people who likes this type of (music?) though but this isn't the reason why we are all interested in the Stones
What about Rocks Off, Rip This Joint, All Down The Line, Sister Morphine, Moonlight Mile, Time Waits For No One,Live With Me, Salt of the Earth, No Expectations,Whip Comes Down, Imagination, Worried About You, T&A, Slipping Away as obscure-non warhorses tracks?
And there are more
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Wouldn't this be a way better 40 Licks album??!!
No way at all
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| KeithRichards210 |
Perhaps what you meant was songs that don't follow the standard "hits" formula. In which case, that's a pretty good list.  |
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| Charlie!Charlie! |
KR210, you've got my point.
Of course, Rip this joint and Little T&A
are great songs, but Goin' Home or
Moon is up are far different but great.
I remember Keith telling about Charlie experimenting
in the basement of the studio, trying.
to find the right sound for the drums on Moon is Up.
Keith told us "And when Charlie is experimenting,
I know he's having fun and the song will be just outstanding'
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| SHINE A LIGHT |
i agree that the stones should bring out the stuff that only WE, THE DIE HARD FANS would know/ever heard of. that is truly the meaning of "obscure". they should realise that we actually do know "shine a light"!!!!, "let it loose", "faraway eyes", "sway"......on and on. and quite frankly, i do believe that they will do a tour with the "not-so-famous" tunes. everone on earth/mars/pluto/and uranus knows "satisfaction" and the usual suspects. it's time for a bluesy tour,start a new trend.?? 
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| Gazza |
That'll never happen. They dont have the balls to ditch the warhorses because unfortunately most of the people who pay those silly ticket prices arent actually diehard fans but the people who go once per tour and who want to hear "Satisfaction". Even at the recent club shows they peppered the last third of each show with "classics". If they wont take the chance in a club that their most fanatical fans know and want to hear a show full of "non hits", what chance does that give of it happening on a bigger scale?
Mick even alluded to that on the "No Security" tour when he talked about introducing "Moonlight Mile" to be greeted by a sea of faces looking at him as if to say "what the fuck is this?" and also recently he mentioned about Chuck suggesting to him they play "Loving Cup" and he didnt want to because when theyd played it earlier in the tour, people didnt know it...
I mean what kind of Stones fans DONT own "Sticky Fingers" or "Exile On Main Street" and dont know these songs?
I think every act in a large venue needs a certain number of songs that everyone knows and has grown up with in order to create a certain atmosphere, and for the Stones that problem is compounded by the fact theres so MANY. They could rotate their 15 or so best known songs however and play maybe half of them maximum in arenas or stadiums - theres no reason why they shouldnt slip a few more obscurities in. Dylan does it all the time, as do a lot of acts (last year I saw Springsteen play an impromptu "Kittys Back" (off his 2nd album) as an encore at a fan's request at a stadium show in Dublin - the first time he'd played the song in Europe for 28 years. It also happens to be ten minutes long. It didnt matter that half the crowd didnt know it, it went down a storm.)
No reason why the Stones cant do something similarly off the cuff. Unfortunately, I think theyve trapped themselves in a way because of the audience they've tailored their act too. They did play quite a lot of different songs on the last tour, but by Europe there werent a lot of surprises. |
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| SHINE A LIGHT |
yes, it does seem as though they've painted themselves into a corner.......the shows have become "ritualistic" and in a way, i do like that. BUT, i guess i'm just sick of the people who come out to "just see the show".....because it's there. like going to the circus, yet again (pardon the pun).
they need to open the windows and freshen things up....i wish i knew how they could do that and keep people somewhat happy.???
a pure blues tour would be perfect....for them ,too. they'd love that environment. but, would they love the no money of a blues tour??? i suppose they'll have to come up with something......NEW/FRESH/DIFFERENT...take a chance. |
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| stonedinaustralia |
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Gazza wrote:
I mean what kind of Stones fans DONT own "Sticky Fingers" or "Exile On Main Street" and dont know these songs?
which suggests, i think, gazza that not all who attend the stones' shows are "fans"
as you have suggested the band has painted itself into the corner it now finds itself in
the stones are more than just a band - they are an institution - and one with high overheads to be met - and i suspect many who attend the shows do so simply to say they have witnessed the event/spectacle that is a stones show - a bit like tourists who visit a famous land mark while in a particular place - not because they have any great interest in the thing but because they know it has some historical importance so they had better have a look at it while they have the opportunity - i mean how many people who go to see the sphinx are really that interested in egyptology??
the annoying thing to me is, as dylan has shown,you can do virtually anything you want and if you do it with enough conviction (something i suspect the stones may lack at times)then your audience will be carried along with the artists intensity in what the are doing (that is if the artist in question has any kind of talent or anything worthwhile to say)
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| stonedatbirth666 |
check out the Richards production WINGLESS ANGELS. Also Jammin with Edward, the Howlin Wolf london sessions, some good stuff. |
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| mac_daddy |
just got my wingless angels in the mail (i just hope i get a crack at tix, too - for $35 - but the album is great, much better than I hoped, and this comes from a huge roots fan)...
the thing with the stones is that historically they dont mix up the setlist. this tour was the most daring in that respect. I think this is why alot of the songs get skipped...
that bit about loving cup - man, I have seen phish play that song and set off huge crowds in the process. And I have seen alot of those cats singing the words. and they aren't even stones fans... |
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| exile |
I just bought "Jamming with Edward" recently and Im really enoying it
I agree to a certain degree ..... I like listening to the more obscure stones songs listed
- Heaven
- 2000 Light Years From Home
- She Smiled Sweetly
- Child Of The Moon
- Parachute Woman
- Fingerprint File
- Melody
- You Gotta Move
- Let It Loose
- Dance (part1)
The main reason being that I have heard the old warhorses so often ...not that im sick of them .....but i know them so well. I still love rocking to Brown Sugar and will probably never get sick of it.
I like the fact that after listening to the stones for 20 years as i have you can put on an album and discover an obscure track you may have heard a million times but never thought much of but suddenly it becomes your favourite for a couple of months.
some other gems
"Heaven", "Slave", "worried about you", "take you to the Top", "Moonlight Mile", "memo from Turner", "Dancing with Mr. D", "Continental Drift" |
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| SHINE A LIGHT |
yes, the fabulous wingless angels....now THAT would be a concert!!!!!however, some/many of these angels are now truly "angels with wings" so it cannot happen.
jammin' with e. is godd stuff, too....but, the keith issue???
we all seem to agree that something has gotten a tad stale (as mj suggested in a recent skit on snl)...."just put me in a bloody time capsule.....", and i am certain there is an answer. maybe they have to stop being an "eiffel tower"thing, and become a new act. oh i know, very difficult to do....but, they are the stones.... |
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| Prodigal Son |
A great non-hits collection could be called Forty (uh, Tricks?), whatever. Oft-ignored ones (not rare, but album tracks, B-sides that get overlooked even in their live act). The list pretty much runs out pre-Steel Wheels for me. I can't say for sure what was an obscure gem from 1989-now because SW is the only one I've got from that era (I've listened to the others but can't remember enough).
1. Stoned
2. I Just Want to Make Love to You
3. Good Times, Bad Times
4. Confessin' the Blues
5. What a Shame
6. Off the Hook
7. I Can't Be Satisfied
8. Mercy Mercy
9. Blue Turns to Grey
10. Gotta Get Away
11. I Am Waiting
12. Yesterday's Papers
13. All Sold Out
14. Connection
15. Citadel
16. Child of the Moon
17. Jigsaw Puzzle
18. Salt of the Earth
19. Let it Bleed
20. Monkey Man
21. Little Queenie
22. Sway
23. Sister Morphine
24. Sweet Virginia
25. Torn and Frayed
26. Let it Loose
27. Soul Survivor
28. Winter
29. Luxury
30. Fingerprint File
31. Hand of Fate
32. Far Away Eyes
33. Some Girls
34. Let Me Go
35. Down in the Hole
36. Tops
37. No Use in Crying
38. Black Limousine
39. Tie You up (The Pain of Love)
40. I Wanna Hold You
Feel free to disagree, I may have overlooked some others and forgotten but this still (despite being their level-2 stuff) is five-star, grade-A all the way! That's what makes a band, namely the Stones, great. Put together some obscure fan faves that no casual fan ever hears and it's still a knockout. |
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| SHINE A LIGHT |
#19,20,and 33 are for the passerby people.....they all just stop by to window shop, they know those ones, i'm sure. the others are remote.....that's the word we were looking for....remote stuff. |
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| mac_daddy |
I thought only one of the angels has passed on...
great album...
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I REALLY would like to see the Rolling Stones Records get the SACD treatment, and then see the band tour behind those - they could focus on material from fingers (i got the blues), exile (lovin cup,torn and frayed, hip shake), goats head(mr d), iorr (dance little sister, drift away), black and blue (melody - chuck would love the spotlight), emotional rescue (shes so cold, send her to me, emotional rescue)
maybe they could add an acoustic set, so we could get sweet black angel, winter, u gotta move, and some of the stuff from exile's side3. country honk in here would be a refreshing way to hear HTW, too...
finally, I would love to see You Got the Silver and Little T and A make it into the rotation for Keith's set. |
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| Soul Survivor |
My favorite non hits are
Citadel
Sway
Moonlight Mile
Crazy Mama
Tops
Short And Curlies
Miss Amanda Jones
She Said Yeah
That's How Strong My Love Is
Thru And Thru
Mean Dispositon
Already Over Me
Highwire
Can't You Hear Me Knocking (Although due to the tour its been becoming more of a known Stones song)
We Love You
Dandelion
Child Of The Moon
Long Long While
Off The Hook
All About You
Wanna Hold You
Summer Romance
One Hit To The Body
Jiving Sister Fanny
Let It Loose
Soul Survivor
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| Some Guy |
I really dig She's so Cold, really. |
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| corgi37 |
For what its worth.
Sway, I'm going down, Shine a light (i felt really odd when they did it in the stripped video. It was kind of like "my' song was now known to others, stupid eh?), Faraway eyes (was hugely popular here in Oz. I really like some of the recent b sides too. Cook cook blues, jump on top of me, the storm, fancy man blues. Some real gems there. We love you? That would be unreal live! But, Sway and I'm going down to it for me most of all. |
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| JaggaRichards |
The Spider And The Fly
Jigsaw Puzzle
Flight 505 |
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| caro |
quote:
I REALLY would like to see the Rolling Stones Records get the SACD treatment, and then see the band tour behind those - they could focus on material from fingers (i got the blues), exile (lovin cup,torn and frayed, hip shake), goats head(mr d), iorr (dance little sister, drift away), black and blue (melody - chuck would love the spotlight), emotional rescue (shes so cold, send her to me, emotional rescue)
maybe they could add an acoustic set, so we could get sweet black angel, winter, u gotta move, and some of the stuff from exile's side3. country honk in here would be a refreshing way to hear HTW, too...
finally, I would love to see You Got the Silver and Little T and A make it into the rotation for Keith's set.
That's really a great concept, macdaddy... although I don't think She's so cold would fit with the other songs. And the touring behind the SACD's seems like a reasonable idea...
It's not like nobody is interested in blues songs. Ben Harper, for example, is huge here in France (don't know what it's like in the USA?).
Also, I'm not certain the non-fans would dislike a show with less warhorses. First, they probably don't ask about the setlist before buying a ticket. Also, there's so many bands who only had one huge hit and who will tour for years, just because people think "oh, he wrote ____, we gotta see him." I'd say Mick's energy onstage is all the Stones need to keep the audience interested in the show. |
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| gimmekeef |
I have been playing "Send Her to Me" and can't get the song out of my head.Think it would be great live.Also on She's So Cold...there is a break near the end where Keith kicks in another guitar track that to me sounds like the perfect moment to describe what makes their sound so unique and different (and great)..The multi layered guitar tracks. |
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| SHINE A LIGHT |
mac_daddy, see keith's site, he says something there about more than one angel now having wings. it may be in the "ask keith" section. |
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| glencar |
While not completely unknown, Ben Harper isn't very big in the USA. |
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glencar wrote:
While not completely unknown, Ben Harper isn't very big in the USA.
depends how you define big...
and he is HUGE in Europe. Last time I talked to Dean Butterworth he was telling me that the Italians couldnt get enough of Ben. That was before Ben started mixing with Bruce Dern's kid, and bailed on the Innocent Criminals for a while...
but Ben has been one of the most well-rec'd acts at Bonnaroo, and his shows all sell out - esp here in socal where he is a local. the tour he did with the other solcal native, jack johnson, sold out and got rave reviews...
they dont talk about him that much, but believe it or not, I'll bet Ben grossed more than the Stripes last year - no sh*t. |
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| mac_daddy |
back on topic:
the acoustic set would be sweet
and those albums from the 70s need the SACD treatment. touring behind those, by focussing on that material would be a great way to hump a tour. all those albums are fantastic, and the tunes on them deserve some attention. |
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| glencar |
MacDaddy, he & Laura Dern must make beautiful kids. I'm not that familiar with his music but I do like the song or two I've heard from Johnson. Ben Harper's stuff I've heard but it's amde little impression. |
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| mac_daddy |
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glencar wrote:
MacDaddy, he & Laura Dern must make beautiful kids. I'm not that familiar with his music but I do like the song or two I've heard from Johnson. Ben Harper's stuff I've heard but it's amde little impression.
too bad when he met Dern he already had a beautiful wife and kid...
Bens first albums are excellent:
Goodbye Cruel World
the second one w/ burn one down and oppression
Fight for Your Mind |
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