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GotToRollMe wrote:
Agreed. One of my favorite Stones albums. Sublime.

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glencar wrote:
Mick T isn't wearing his Jackie O/Bianca straw hat!

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Egbert wrote:
It's OK, nothing special. I like both GHS and TY better.

The "Voodoo Lounge" of the '70s.

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corgi37 wrote:
To me, this is THE album that alienated not only their older audience, but also their current (at the time anyway) white audience, only to lose the average white, jeans, t-shirt, sneaker wearing middle American - from the Heartland!! - to bands like Led Zep. A fine example is Almost Famous, the film. Stones aint "worshipped" by white kids in the 70's.

IORR caused that. It's a superb album. It's 1million miles away from SF or LIB. Billy Preston really took over as far as i am concerned. And, MT too. Which, maybe explains his departure straight after IORR. To this day, no one has fully, 100% explained why. I feel a major reason was Keith didnt enjoy the way the music was going. Not the black/funk influence, but the separation of the guitars into lead & rhythm.

IORR is a gem. It's so easy to see that it went over the heads of everyone. Reading reviews of the album, you can feel the vitriol of critics. Mainly, due to the title track.
"It's only rock and roll, indeed!" these pricks wrote. On and on and on. Like its the greatest insult. The critics took r&r all too fucking seriously. It was like the Stones truly stabbed them in the heart. Ya gotta remember, and i do, 1974 saw glam hit from the U.K. & the L.A. sound come from America. It was either candy assed crap, or over serious, self indulgent bullshit. To me, this time represented a real, and vast, separation between U.S. & U.K. music culture. England wanted to dress up and have fun via Suzie Quartro, Abba, Wizard, Alvin Stardust, T-Rex. America wanted to stay stuck in 1960's values, via Neil Young, Joni Mitchel, Eagles, Linda Ronsdadt, James Taylor.

Interesting to note that only a very few artists crossed over to popularity in both countries. Elton, Bowie, Led Zep among the very few.

And, of course, the Stones.

IORR is a brave album. One that i feel is better appreciated years after its release. The funk influence is just so amazing for a white band. There's Sly, Stevie & George Clinton all over it. All the stuff that was WAAAAAAY over the heads and hearts of Joe Schmo from Wichita, who just wanted to rock out, God darn it!

Culturally, i think its interesting to note that 2 years later, the whole thing reversed. U.K. went all glum via punk, which America never, ever got, while the U.S. preferred the glam of KISS and (sadly) the whole white suited disco thing.

The Stones straddled it, and in hindsight, maybe not all that well. Clips for IORR, the most famous of the IORR clips, is ok for its fun value. But the other clips (as Youtube.com has many!) shows a band not really sure of itself. Jagger looked pretty fucking stupid then, let alone, now. Long gone was the pretence of the street punks, the bad boys, the "piss anywhere" guys. It was even worse than the international chic tax-dodgers of 1970-72. It was so obviously fashion based. Fashion term used loosely!

The Stones clips of the time reveal a image fostered on glam so much more than the bearded, check-shirt wearing kind. Yet, some of the music did not! If you really want to be my friend, short and curlies, If you cant rock me, IORR are straight ahead average rock or ballads.

The magic of the album for me, are the tracks many of us here appreciate. Fingerprint File is awesome. A great ending to the album. A fine document of funk/rock - one of the best, i say.

Time waits for no one defies description. It is sublime in so many ways. Taylor probably earnt his early exit with this song (we all know its his!). Whether Keith felt threatened (he was weakened by dope & not contributing alot) or the simple "i want me fucking royalties & writing credit" story, we'll never know.

You see, i truly believe, a teeny white boy, kinda liking the band, listening to tracks like LUXURY or TILL THE NEXT GOODBYE, going "WTF?", and tuning into Led Zep or the fledgling KISS, or Deep Purple or the atrocious Aerosmith. Bands that seemingly played songs and song styles that the Stones had outgrown. I refute the influence of bands like Black Sabbath. The Stones up to 1976, really, really took a different path. They parked themselves very deep into the black funk camp of Sly and many others. It further alienated the working class, spotty Pom, and the dope smoking surfer type Yank, or the down home, Lynrd Skynrd Yank.

The other astounding thing about this record is the production values. Never have you heard them sounding so good. Shit, Charlies drums are actually recorded using current techniques of the time! And, even tuned differently. Interesting to note he is not playing the skins on the title track (Kenny Jones is). As far as i know, this was the only track at the time NOT to feature Charles on drums. Apart from YCAGWYW. I say the change in production style is another influence of the funk era of the time. Even today, dance music albums are amongst the very best produced. Tom Jones has stated he was always drawn to current dance music of any given era, as the production was always superb. But, note how out of all the Stones albums, Charlies drums only ever sounded like the way they do on IORR and the follow up, B&B!

No, i feel IORR is not only a great record, but a very brave and creative one.

And i must say, i have never actually liked the song IORR!!! I just think its a nothing song. Fine enough lyrics, but i just didnt dig it. Though the distortion on the guitars is wonderful.

Yet, live, they were still huge. The 75 tour was massive in every way.

I can see how most stupid critics feel this album is a inferior one to the likes of SF or Exile. Shit, it is! But, its a great document of the times and does contain some thrilling moments.

When i hear the start of Time waits for no one, i still get a chill up the spine.
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Jair wrote:
A great album, one of my fave in all times, I love Luxury and the way how Mick sings "20 dola" me and all that Texan accent.


All songs are strong. "If you really want to me my friend" is one of my fave Stones ballad, & much likely one of their best lyrics. The acoustic guitar in Till the Next is amazing.


And, we still got, If you cant rock me, aint to proud to beg, Dance Little sister, Firgerprint file...A truly masterpiece, in any sense.

Also, Mick was kinda a "prophet" talking about the eternal American paranoia in Firgerprint File, didnt he?

I mean, by that time Watergate was story but who could imagine what will happens In USA in the next years?

These days, more than never, you can fit those lyrics very well in the USA life...

Plus, one of the best covers in the story of rock...Fantastic!


Many, many Thanks to my old friend for many years Roberto, who gave me IORR as a gift about 1976...I remember he said: "Here kid, go home and listen. Its a rock and roll lesson". I couldnt agree more.

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Some Guy wrote:

nice.

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Some Guy wrote:
Perfect carwashing/ yardworking kicking it with my home pickles material.

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