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June 8th, 2005 11:47 AM
nankerphelge PARIS (AFP) - Macho man is an endangered species, with today's male more likely to opt for a pink flowered shirt and swingers' clubs than the traditional role as family super-hero, fashion industry insiders say.

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A study along these lines led by French marketing and style consultants Nelly Rodi was unveiled to Fashion Group International during a seminar Tuesday on future strategy for the fashion industry in Europe.

"The masculine ideal is being completely modified. All the traditional male values of authority, infallibility, virility and strength are being completely overturned," said Pierre Francois Le Louet, the agency's managing director.

Instead today's males are turning more towards "creativity, sensitivity and multiplicity," as seen already in recent seasons on the catwalks of Paris and Milan.

Arnold Schwarznegger and Sylvester Stallone are being replaced by the 21st-century man who "no longer wants to be the family super-hero", but instead has the guts to be himself, to test his own limits.

"We are watching the birth of a hybrid man. ... Why not put on a pink-flowered shirt and try out a partner-swapping club?" asked Le Louet, stressing that the study had focused on men aged between 20 and 35.

Sociologists and other experts spent three months analyzing some 150 magazines and books and 146 Internet sites, as well as interviewing a dozen experts from Europe, the United States and China.

The traditional man still exists in China, Le Louet said, and "is not ready to go". But in Europe and the United States, a new species is emerging, apparently unafraid of anything.

"He is looking for a more radical affirmation of who he is, and wants to test out all the barbarity of modern life" including in the sexual domain, said Le Louet, adding that Reebok with its "I am what I am" campaign had perfectly tapped into this current trend.

The emergence of this new male beast who wants to look and feel good, and who will also have an impact on the role of women, presages a new potentially lucrative market for the European fashion industry.

"All those labels which have adapted to this freedom of expression are on the up, all those which are too rigid will suffer in the future," Le Louet said, pointing to the growing success of sports and casual wear manufacturers.

Europe's economic downturn and stiff competition from China have left the industry -- which accounts for 7.0 percent of employment across the European Union or some 2.7 million jobs with an annual turnover of 230 billion euros -- in the doldrums.

The EU has already stepped in with new initiatives and with an aid package to support small and medium enterprises, particularly in the field of technical textiles.

But the search for new markets is also driving research to profile the new European consumer -- the theme of the debate held by Fashion Group, which unites some 6,000 fashion industry professionals.

The answer is not simple, as culture and changing demographics make it hard to pin down the typical European, especially with the growing population of elderly.

But even though society is changing, Jean-Pierre Fourcat, a director with consultants Sociovision specialising in discerning social trends, believes there are some common threads.

"There is an increasing desire for people to be in charge of their own lives, and an intolerance for any lack of autonomy," he told the debate.

"We are also moving into a different situation. We no longer need what we are used to, rather we need what is new. But a motorway without any signs is total panic. So we need some beacons ... and we need a little bit of fun."

Today's consumer wants to feel pampered, but also to be able to take time out, feel good and feel alive.

"We have to help people to create their own look. And we absolutely must help people to dream, and if we help people to dream perhaps the world will be a little bit better," he said.
June 8th, 2005 12:32 PM
Jumacfly those guys should stop masturbating flies at office!!
and Howe could open a new university in Paris, i tell you!!!
June 8th, 2005 02:05 PM
Joey " PARIS (AFP) - Macho man is an endangered species, with today's male more likely to opt for a pink flowered shirt and swingers' clubs than the traditional role as family super-hero, fashion industry insiders say. "







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[Edited by Joey]
June 8th, 2005 07:04 PM
kath voodoo pug is gonna be pissed.......
June 8th, 2005 08:50 PM
parmeda
quote:
nankerphelge wrote:
PARIS (AFP) - Macho man is an endangered species, with today's male more likely to opt for a pink flowered shirt and swingers' clubs than the traditional role as family super-hero, fashion industry insiders say.


Damn, Nanky...I can instantly rattle off the names of a few posters that could easily become the poster-boy for this article.

No?

....rotflmao
June 9th, 2005 11:53 AM
Joey " The big news of the day was not anything you'd read about in the paper but what some of the guys on the show did yesterday afternoon. In honor of his friend's upcoming wedding, Howard threw a bachelor party for Ross Zapin at Scores yesterday. Howard said it was just a couple of the guys getting together for lunch and dancing and not that big a deal and everyone who went had a great time. Howard said the party was mainly for Ross' friends but when some of them couldn't make it Howard told Gary to invite some of the guys from the office. Howard approved Sal the Stockbroker being invited but almost immediately regretted his decision. On his way over he asked Ronnie the Limo Driver if he had really just invited Sal. Ronnie replied that he had and he was very surprised by that. Ronnie went back and gave Sal "the talk" about how to act at Scores. Basically don't act out and don't stare at Howard and don't be a weirdo. He also warned Sal not to bring any recording devices with him and reminded him that they were all there to have a great time, not for on-air stuff. Sal said that Ronnie yelled all this at him in the men's room while Sal was sitting on the bowl. Howard said, "Good!" Everyone was also goofing on Sal for having to call his wife first to get permission to go to Scores. Howard laughed and said that Sal makes fun of Gary all the time but his marriage is better. Sal said he thought he stayed out of Howard's way at Scores so he feels he's earned another invite and Howard agreed. But then Sal crossed the line again when he complained about something Howard "did" to him. Apparently, according to Sal, Howard came up to his table, looked Sal, Fred and then Jeff Schick, then said "Hi Fred, hi Jeff, hi Sal". Sal was bummed that he was last on the list. Howard told him Sal that he's insane and scary and now he can't ever go back to Scores with them. "


http://www.howardstern.com/today-show-archive.php
June 9th, 2005 01:38 PM
FPM C10
quote:
parmeda wrote:

Damn, Nanky...I can instantly rattle off the names of a few posters that could easily become the poster-boy for this article.

No?

....rotflmao


let's see... a flowered shirt



and swingers' clubs


Yeah, I can think of a few poster boys too. Damn sissies. George Patton would PLOTZ.

June 9th, 2005 02:43 PM
Joey " Yeah, I can think of a few poster boys too. Damn sissies. George Patton would PLOTZ. "


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" Howard said he can't get enough of Tom Cruise and his ramblings about Scientology and Katie Holmes. He read an article out of today's NY Post about how some people think the relationship is hurting her career and costing her movies but Howard said he didn't buy that. Some of her friends were complaining that she doesn't talk to them anymore because she's really not socializing with anyone who is not a scientologist. She also brought her parents to the celebrity scientology center. Howard said those poor people. Howard said Cruise seems to be self destructing ever since he fired his publicist and hired his sister. Howard said he's not that into publicists but maybe Tom really needs one. Howard then played a funny audio clip in which Tom acts surprised that all the paparazzi found him at a restaurant but then one of them shouts out that his publicist tipped them off to where Tom would be. Howard also played some clips of Tom being interviewed on the Australian 60 Minutes, in it he gets really testy with the guy interviewing him. Cruise told the guy that he stepped over a line when he asked about his family. He also started listening things he found "appalling" like people being hooked on drugs when they don't have to be. Howard laughed and said he loves the new Dr. Cruise, who knows more about prescribing medicine than doctors. He played another clip of Cruise saying that he personally, personally has cured people of their drug addictions. Howard scoffed and said that Cruise also claimed to have helped a girl grow seven inches in a short period of time. "

http://www.howardstern.com/today-show-archive.php



[Edited by Joey]
June 9th, 2005 09:15 PM
glencar Joey, I taped Leno last night for the specific purpose of watching Cruise further implode his career. He did NOT disappoint! The best part of all was they imported the TC Fan Club & whatever inanity he spewed out, they would whoop it up. Oddly, the only dull reaction he got was when he praised "Steve" Spielberg. Buncha anti-semitics!
June 9th, 2005 10:21 PM
kath you mean "rat faced boy" cruise?


what a loser. he comes up with these big movies and pushes them like mad. and they're duds, most of them anyway.

and he looks like a rat.....
June 9th, 2005 11:39 PM
voodoopug
quote:
kath wrote:
voodoo pug is gonna be pissed.......



I leave town for two stinking days.......



five days....ITS COMING
June 10th, 2005 12:29 AM
parmeda
quote:
FPM C10 wrote:
Yeah, I can think of a few poster boys too. Damn sissies. George Patton would PLOTZ.


Flea...I love your humor.
btw...how've you been since the accident? Everything okay?
June 10th, 2005 12:30 AM
parmeda
quote:
voodoopug wrote:


I leave town for two stinking days.......



five days....ITS COMING


...check your PM.

You're gonna die laughing
June 10th, 2005 09:20 AM
Joey
quote:
glencar wrote:
Joey, I taped Leno last night for the specific purpose of watching Cruise further implode his career. He did NOT disappoint!


Tom Cruise is now a FLAMING homosexual .
June 10th, 2005 10:52 AM
FPM C10
quote:
parmeda wrote:

Flea...I love your humor.
btw...how've you been since the accident? Everything okay?



Thanks for recognizing that it IS humor, parmeda! Many don't "get" me.

And thank you too for asking how I am. Actually I've felt like hell since the accident - screwed up my already-screwed-up back - but having the bare minimum of insurance coverage there's nothing I can do about it. I always kinda thought that if the accident was the other person's fault that the victim would be taken care of, but that, of course, is not the case.

Some day I'll outgrow my stupid thoughts that anyone in this world would do the "right" thing unless forced to at gunpoint. Such idealism is unseemly in a monkey my age.
June 10th, 2005 10:57 AM
Joey
quote:
FPM C10 wrote:



Actually I've felt like hell






Fleabit .........................................


I recommend IMMEDIATELY that you take a good , long , healthy SHIT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT will make you feel like a Brand Spanking New Monkey !

......Always works for me .

Batter Up ! :

*********** END TRANSMISSION **************

Stinky !

W- W- W- W- What ?!?!?! .....Some READING Material ?!?! ............. Oh , sure ! :

" In what has become a disturbing pattern recently, beloved comedian and original MadTV cast member, Artie Lange, missed work again today. Howard wanted to know if Gary had heard from Artie this morning but Gary hadn't. Artie was supposed to call Howard yesterday but he never did. Howard said Artie has always said that when he loses it he'll just disappear and we'll never hear from him. Howard hopes that his recent silence doesn't mean he has lost it. Robin reminded everyone that Artie had also promised us all that his job here would end badly. Gary said he heard from Artie's sister the other day and she offered to have Artie's mom call Howard. Howard said that was okay, he'd like to hear from Artie since this isn't elementary school, he doesn't need to talk to Artie's mommy. Gary was shocked that, at the very least, Artie's agent didn't call. Howard joked that Gary probably knows Artie better than his agent does. Howard said he really thinks Artie is just really stressed out over his movie and other things. He thinks Artie is under a lot pressure but he also wants Artie to get back to work or at least call us and let us know what is going on with him. Howard just doesn't get it, because looking at it logically, Artie has everything he's wanted. He works on a high profile entertainment show that allows him to live in NJ, work very good hours, and allows him the flexibility to work on other projects. Howard said Jackie Martling went through the same thing, only his problem was money, not stress. Howard said that everyone who sits in that chair seems to go crazy and he wondered if the chair was cursed. He yelled at Benjy to get out of that chair not only because it might be cursed, but because Benjy was distracting Howard by sitting there. Howard said he keeps thinking Artie is there when he sees Benjy's head and then he starts putting up all the wrong microphones. Callers wanted to know if Artie didn't show up soon was he going to be fired but Howard said he didn't want to even think about that. Besides, you can't fire someone who's not here. Robin laughed and said its' more like Artie fired us than the other way around. "


http://www.howardstern.com/today-show-archive.php




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[Edited by Joey]
June 10th, 2005 12:01 PM
FPM C10 In my list of bitches and twitches I forgot to mention that I continue to have benign fasciculations, stomach pain, flank pain, and stress related disorders.

Flacky!

June 10th, 2005 01:01 PM
voodoopug



Fleabit! good to see you today my friend!
June 10th, 2005 01:05 PM
FPM C10
quote:
voodoopug wrote:




Fleabit! good to see you today my friend!



Pug! Have you heard anything?



About...you know...???
June 10th, 2005 01:10 PM
voodoopug Those "lampshades" nearly drive me to tears, i feel horrible for those poor animals
June 10th, 2005 01:31 PM
FPM C10
quote:
voodoopug wrote:
Those "lampshades" nearly drive me to tears, i feel horrible for those poor animals




It makes them more adept at picking up transmissions from other dimensions. Much like the tin foil hats my family and I wear around the house.


How do you feel about a casual sweater?
June 10th, 2005 01:44 PM
Joey
quote:
FPM C10 wrote:


It makes them more adept at picking up transmissions from other dimensions. Much like the tin foil hats my family and I wear around the house.


How do you feel about a casual sweater?





Fleabit .......................................

That's what my little friends and myself running around the Plains of Nebraska with knickers on and stick ball bats in our hands used to call "Postin'!"

You're POSTIN' baby!

The Joey - As seen on the reality show "That's Postin'!", 10:00 PM CDT Sundays.


Jacky Carson





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[ Edited by Flacky ]
June 10th, 2005 01:45 PM
Joey " It makes them more adept at picking up transmissions .................. "


< ---- Oh , Oh !!! :

********* END TRANSMISSION *************


Flacky !
June 10th, 2005 01:46 PM
voodoopug


Joey, will Dr. Joyce Brothers be featured on "Thats Postin" this week?


ITS COMING!!!!
June 10th, 2005 02:04 PM
Joey " Joey, will Dr. Joyce Brothers be featured on "Thats Postin" this week? "


Puggy ........... How(e) do you feel about Sweaters ?


It's Coming ! ™

Jacky Carson



June 10th, 2005 02:12 PM
voodoopug
quote:
Joey wrote:
" Joey, will Dr. Joyce Brothers be featured on "Thats Postin" this week? "


Puggy ........... How(e) do you feel about Sweaters ?


It's Coming ! ™

Jacky Carson







he looks very comfortable, and "Hunting Pugs" are rare indeed, i will need to deliberate on it more, but my first reaction is to support "pugs in sweaters"



It's coming
June 10th, 2005 02:15 PM
Joey

I will continue to have benign fasciculations, stomach pain, flank pain, and stress related disorders ( see : rectal irritation..... )

Tee Hee !
June 10th, 2005 02:23 PM
voodoopug
quote:
Joey wrote:


I will continue to have benign fasciculations, stomach pain, flank pain, and stress related disorders ( see : rectal irritation..... )

Tee Hee !




Its coming!!!!!!!

June 10th, 2005 02:42 PM
Joey


Actually Pugster ............................


... It just BURNED !


Ouchy ! ™

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 10th, 2005 02:48 PM
voodoopug
quote:
Joey wrote:



Actually Pugster ............................


... It just BURNED !


Ouchy ! ™

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




i cannot bear to see that pug suffer anymore.


It's Coming:

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