| December 1st, 2004 02:16 AM |
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| rockstarbrian |
I read on-line that keith richards doesn't play one note on sway on the sticky fingers album on-line just now... is this some kind of joke??? Supposedly, it's all mick taylor which I would say in response, mick taylor is an amazing guitarist better than keith in a ton of respects but that open g guitar part on sway sounds exactly like keith playing it. I'm convinced that keith is on that track. Could somebody clear this up and tell me whether he was on sway or not?
P.S. The reason they said that keith wasn't on sway was because jagger and him weren't speaking at the time or weren't on good terms, which sounds absurd to me when I was gimme shelter and see the footage of them in the studio together. |
| December 1st, 2004 02:30 AM |
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| Wolfboy |
I have read the same fact many times and Heard Mick J say the same thing in interviews.I never heard that it was becuase there was bad blood between him and keith though. |
| December 1st, 2004 02:44 AM |
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| rockstarbrian |
I seriously find that fact disturbing... Probably because keith richards is my all-time guitar idol except for mick taylor really... but who else could play like keith besides mick taylor or ronnie wood? Oh yeah I forgot.... slash, joe perry, jimmy page.... heh heh heh, all the other people that idolized keith richards and tried to cop his style.... LOL. Anyway, how could keith let a stones album come out where he didn't even play on one of the songs, especially when it sounds so unbelievably keith-like? I mean if he didn't write that part (which he probably did, even if he didn't play it), then why wouldn't he have at least played the part? I dunno, it's hard for me to believe really.... but at the time, I guess keith had tremendous respect for mick taylor and probably just thought hey the tracks done why mess with it...? I dunno though, I wish there were some way to prove that he was or wasn't on the track... |
| December 1st, 2004 03:46 AM |
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| Zack |
Yep, it's true. Read the SF liner notes. K. Richards: backing vocals
Moonlight Mile too. He slept through the session on that one, though he wrote the opening riff. |
| December 1st, 2004 03:58 AM |
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| beer |
taylor and jagger on guitars for sway. ditto for moonlite mile.
tho even without his trademark guitar, you can easily hear keef singin backup vox on sway.
also check a miracle titled 'Winter".
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| December 1st, 2004 04:28 AM |
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| stones-addict |
I love Keef with all of my heart, but I don't see where he could have added anything special to the guitar work on Sway. |
| December 1st, 2004 01:01 PM |
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| glencar |
Does MT claim songwriting credit for this one? |
| December 1st, 2004 01:22 PM |
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| Gazza |
Dunno..but he was pretty aggrieved at not being credited for "Moonlight Mile" |
| December 1st, 2004 03:51 PM |
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| gustavobala |
from site - www.timeisonourside.com
Sway
Composers: Mick Jagger & Keith Richards
Recording date: March-May 1970 & c. February 1971
Recording locations: Rolling Stones Mobile Unit, Mick Jagger's home, Newbury, England
& Olympic Sound Studios, London
Producer:Jimmy Miller
Chief engineers: Glyn Johns & Andy Johns
Never performed onstage
Line-up:
Drums: Charlie Watts
Bass: Bill Wyman
Rhythm electric guitar: Mick Jagger
Lead electric guitar: Mick Taylor
Lead vocal: Mick Jagger
Background vocals: Mick Jagger & Keith Richards
Piano: Nicky Hopkins
Strings: (unknown musicians)
TrackTalk
(Y)ou... need two guitars (to play that song) , 'cause you need one guitar in open tuning to play the dah-dum-dah-da. In fact it was Mick Jagger that played rhythm guitar on that track.
- Mick Taylor, 1995
On Sway I used the Les Paul; Keith doesn't play on that track. Mick Jagger's playing rhythm guitar... (I played the slide part and the solo) at the same time. I put the slide on my little finger so it would still leave the other 3 fingers free to play like they would regularly, and I switched from one to the other. That was played in regular tuning.
- Mick Taylor, 1979
(On Sway Mick plays electric guitar). Yeah... Well, like I say, acoustically he's got a nice touch. It doesn't translate electrically. It's not his thing. It's not everybody's cup of tea... I'd never let him play electric if I could help it. He's like Bob Dylan, same thing. They thrash away at it. No sense of electric at all. Usually I turn him down.
- Keith Richards, 2002
(W)e didn't always get there at the same time. If we felt like playing, we would. That's why on Sway the backing track was done with just Charlie, Mick, and me.
- Mick Taylor, 1979
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| December 1st, 2004 03:53 PM |
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| gustavobala |
the same site, (see the last track talk)
Moonlight Mile
Composers: Mick Jagger & Keith Richards
Recording date: March-May 1970
Recording location: Rolling Stones Mobile Unit, Mick Jagger's home, Newbury, England
& Olympic Sound Studios, London
Producer:Jimmy Miller
Chief engineers: Glyn Johns & Andy Johns
Performed onstage: 1999
Probable line-up:
Drums: Charlie Watts
Bass: Bill Wyman
Acoustic guitar: Mick Jagger
Electric guitar (incl. slide): Mick Taylor
Vocals: Mick Jagger
Piano: Jim Price
Strings & wind instruments: (unknown musicians)
TrackTalk
The music quite often comes ahead of the words. That annoys me. It's very hard to write lyrics to the track. It's much easier to have it done before but... I always try to write the lyrics to the songs. Like that thing with strings on Moonlight Mile, the lyrics weren't written to that before we cut the track. That was very extemporized. We didn't THINK of having strings or anything. It just comes.
- Mick Jagger, 1971
(W)e recorded it in my house in the country, Stargroves. And we recorded a lot of stuff (there): Bitch, stuff from Exile on Main Street... I remember Mick Taylor playing that song. Real dreamy kind of semi-Middle Eastern piece. Yeah, that's a real pretty song - and a nice string arrangement.
- Mick Jagger, 1995
I thought I wasn't on Moonlight Mile but the last riff everybody gets into playing is a riff I'd been playing on earlier tapes before I dropped out.
- Keith Richards, 1971
The only thing in Sticky Fingers I don't have anything to do with is Moonlight Mile, 'cause I wasn't there when they did it. It was great to hear that because I was very out of it by the end of the album and it was like listening, really listening. It was really nice.
- Keith Richards, 1971
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| December 1st, 2004 03:55 PM |
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| gustavobala |
quote:
glencar wrote:
Does MT claim songwriting credit for this one?
in stick fingers no one, i think only in Exile....ventilador blues |
| December 1st, 2004 05:50 PM |
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| rockstarbrian |
quote:
stones-addict wrote:
I love Keef with all of my heart, but I don't see where he could have added anything special to the guitar work on Sway.
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I think that Mick Taylor or Jagger did a damn good job of playing in keith's style because you could never tell by listening that he didn't play on it. Just goes to show how amazing Mick Taylor really is as far as guitar playing goes. |
| December 1st, 2004 05:54 PM |
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| rockstarbrian |
WHERE DID YOU FIND ALL THAT FABULOUS INFORMATION LIKE WHAT GUITAR MICK USED ON SWAY??????? THAT IS SO AWESOME!!! Is there like a website with all kinds of info on it like that?? Because I'm almost obsessed with knowing who used what in the studio guitar and amp-wise. Please tell me if there's a place with all that type of information on it!!! |
| December 1st, 2004 07:09 PM |
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| Soldatti |
I think that Mick played guitar better in 1971 than now... |
| December 1st, 2004 07:34 PM |
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| Gazza |
quote:
rockstarbrian wrote:
WHERE DID YOU FIND ALL THAT FABULOUS INFORMATION LIKE WHAT GUITAR MICK USED ON SWAY??????? THAT IS SO AWESOME!!! Is there like a website with all kinds of info on it like that?? Because I'm almost obsessed with knowing who used what in the studio guitar and amp-wise. Please tell me if there's a place with all that type of information on it!!!
the link is mentioned in the post
www.timeisonmyside.com
Great site! |
| December 1st, 2004 07:37 PM |
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| Gazza |
>P.S. The reason they said that keith wasn't on sway was because jagger and him weren't speaking at the time or weren't on good terms, which sounds absurd to me when I was gimme shelter and see the footage of them in the studio together.
Sway wasnt recorded at the session that you see in "Gimme Shelter" (that was Muscle Shoals in Dec'69)..
I woudnt go by a brief clip that you see in a film, although I've never heard that story about why Keith wasnt on "Sway" before, so I dont know how credible it is.
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| December 1st, 2004 09:13 PM |
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| Blind Dog McGhee |
Why dont you ask Keef since he obviously knows more about music than you. |
| December 1st, 2004 09:33 PM |
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| Tom |
quote:
Gazza wrote:
the link is mentioned in the post
www.timeisonmyside.com
Great site!
That's the song, the website is http://www.timeisonourside.com  |
| December 2nd, 2004 08:52 AM |
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| Gazza |
oops....a typo...sorry. Thanks, Tom |
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