| September 5th, 2005 08:13 PM |
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| mac_daddy |
i know it was a big hit for him, but i think somebody else wrote it. on "green river" it is credited to another pair of songwriters, and includes the publishing company (which is not ray's)...
i ask because i am listening to the detroit show, and mick calls it a "ray charles' tune" and i am not sure that it is. 
(edited for type-o's)
[Edited by mac_daddy] |
| September 5th, 2005 08:20 PM |
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| Gazza |
No, it was written by Napoleon Brown/Ozzie Cadena/Lew Herman.
Ray was the first to record it, however (in 1959, I think) |
| September 5th, 2005 08:23 PM |
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| mac_daddy |
quote:
Gazza wrote:
No, it was written by Napoleon Brown/Ozzie Cadena/Lew Herman.
Ray was the first to record it, however (in 1959, I think)
creedence only credits two of those guys... |
| September 5th, 2005 08:31 PM |
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| Gazza |
I assume its Herman and Cadena, then.
I've seen it credited to two people and sometimes three.
See www.allmusic.com |
| September 5th, 2005 08:37 PM |
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| mac_daddy |
thanks for the info, gazza. |
| September 5th, 2005 08:39 PM |
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| Nasty Habits |
It was written and performed originally by Nappy Brown, mac_daddy. Ray had the hit.
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| September 5th, 2005 08:46 PM |
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| mac_daddy |
quote:
Nasty Habits wrote:
It was written and performed originally by Nappy Brown, mac_daddy. Ray had the hit.
so mick should be introducing it as "a nappy brown tune..?"
i have never heard of nappy brown. why is it credited to the songwriting pair/trio cited above..?
nasty - you have a PM, too  |
| September 5th, 2005 09:13 PM |
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| Sir Stonesalot |
I like The Strangeloves version. |
| September 5th, 2005 10:48 PM |
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| Thing One |
Ray Charles was a good friend of Ronnie Milsap. Neither was a friend of Stevie Wonder. Jeff Healey idolized all three growing up. Helen Keller, however, was deaf and blind so she had no appreciation of any of the above four. |
| September 6th, 2005 08:41 AM |
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| Nasty Habits |
mac - I'm surprised that anyone would take the credits on most 50s compositions seriously! It's sometimes attributed to Lew Herman, sometimes to Napoleon Brown, sometimes to all. I don't know Lew Herman. Maybe he was a collaborator of Brown's but considering his credits on the Allmusic page are that of "executive producer", I'd guess he wrote songs as often as Sid Nathan or Alan Freed did.
But my Savoy LP of Nappy gives him songwriting credit in third, anyway.
By this point it doesn't matter -- it IS a Ray Charles song. He had the hit, his arrangement is definitive and saying "This is a Nappy Brown song that Ray Charles had a big hit with" diffuses the momentum of the concert moment. I think we shoul make this one of those "Even if it didn't happen it did" type moments.
It's the singer, not the song.
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| September 6th, 2005 08:46 AM |
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| mac_daddy |
gotcha.
i wasnt going for an oliver stone moment - i was just genuinely curious (sometimes that is how you get turned on to songwriting teams). plus i found out about the allmusic page, and hadnt checked that site out before. thanks to both you and gazza... |
| September 6th, 2005 08:52 AM |
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| Nasty Habits |
quote:
Thing One wrote:
Ray Charles was a good friend of Ronnie Milsap. Neither was a friend of Stevie Wonder. Jeff Healey idolized all three growing up. Helen Keller, however, was deaf and blind so she had no appreciation of any of the above four.
I bet she would have been fond of Charlotte Church.
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| September 6th, 2005 02:14 PM |
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| jpenn11 |
Does the Stones' version of I'm Movin On come from the Ray Charles arrangement, or is it more like Hank Snow?
Did they do anything else that is (even remotely) a Ray Charles tune before Night Time? |
