| August 29th, 2005 07:38 PM |
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| Riffhard |
You can use the f-word in class (but only five times)
09:58am 29th August 2005
A secondary school is to allow pupils to swear at teachers - as long as they don't do so more than five times in a lesson. A running tally of how many times the f-word has been used will be kept on the board. If a class goes over the limit, they will be 'spoken' to at the end of the lesson.
The astonishing policy, which the school says will improve the behaviour of pupils, was condemned by parents' groups and MPs yesterday. They warned it would backfire.
Parents were advised of the plan, which comes into effect when term starts next week, in a letter from the Weavers School in Wellingborough, Northamptonshire.
Have your say » Assistant headmaster Richard White said the policy was aimed at 15 and 16-year-olds in two classes which are considered troublesome.
'Tolerate but not condone'
"Within each lesson the teacher will initially tolerate (although not condone) the use of the f-word (or derivatives) five times and these will be tallied on the board so all students can see the running score," he wrote in the letter
"Over this number the class will be spoken to by the teacher at the end of the lesson."
Parents called the rule 'wholly irresponsible and ludicrous'.
"This appears to be a misguided attempt to speak to kids on their own level," said the father of one pupil.
Should have do's and don'ts
Nick Seaton, chairman of the Campaign for Real Education, said: "In these sort of situations teachers should be setting clear principles of 'do and don't'.
"They should not be compromising in an apparent attempt to please the pupils. This will send out completely the wrong message.
"Youngsters will play up to this and ensure they use their five goes, demeaning the authority of the teacher."
Tory MP Ann Widdecombe said the policy was based on 'Alice in Wonderland reasoning'.
"What next?" she asked. "Do we allow people to speed five times or burgle five times? You don't improve something by allowing it, you improve something by discouraging it."
'Praise postcards'
The 1,130-pupil school, which was criticised as 'not effective' by Ofsted inspectors last November, also plans to send 'praise postcards' to the parents of children who do not swear and who turn up on time for lessons.
Headmaster Alan Large said he had received no complaints about the policy. "The reality is that the fword is part of these young adults' everyday language," he said.
"As a temporary policy we are giving them a bit of leeway, but want them to think about the way they talk and how they might do better."
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That is the craziest thing that I have ever heard of! English secondary school kids can tell their teachers to fuck off?! Rather absurd if you ask me. My kid would be yanked right out of that school.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=360685&in_page_id=1770
Riffhard
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| August 29th, 2005 07:43 PM |
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| Gazza |
I fucking read that today myself
No fucking wonder this fucking country is going to hell in a fucking bucket, thanks to the fucking fuckers who run it..
"Oops, thats one "fuck" too many, Ronnie!"
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| August 29th, 2005 07:47 PM |
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| Riffhard |
Fuck yes Gary! Fuckin' hey right my brother. How in the fuck are these kids gonna learn how to behave if they can wontonly tell their fucking teachers to fucking fuck off!? I for one am fucking stunned!!
Riffhard |
| August 29th, 2005 08:33 PM |
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| snap13 |
what state did this happen in??? |
| August 29th, 2005 08:45 PM |
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| Gazza |
"state" ??
read the first couple of paragraphs again...its in England
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| August 29th, 2005 09:35 PM |
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| quackenbush |
Nevermind that the teachers there will probably feel like shit at the end of each day. How the fuck do they get through a lesson if each kid in the class gets to curse at her five fucking times?
Fuck.
Fuck.
Fuck. |
| August 29th, 2005 11:08 PM |
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| FPM C10 |
quote:
Gazza wrote:
"state" ??
read the first couple of paragraphs again...its in England
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So, it happened in the fucking state of England! What's the fucking problem?
Thanks to a line of weeeeeee fine print in that paper Tony Blair signed which he THOUGHT was his charter membership in the George W. Bush Fan Club, England is now the 52nd fucking state of the United Fucking States!
It's right after fucking Saudi Israelia! |
| August 29th, 2005 11:15 PM |
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| The Wick |
Seeing that you can use the word fuck five times, does that mean you can call a teacher a tosser, slag, wanker, or knobend as many times as you like? God, I wish I was back in that school. |
| August 29th, 2005 11:33 PM |
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| sirmoonie |
"Is our children learning?"
- George Walker Bush III - |
| August 29th, 2005 11:47 PM |
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| gypsy |
quote:
FPM C10 wrote:
So, it happened in the fucking state of England! What's the fucking problem?
Thanks to a line of weeeeeee fine print in that paper Tony Blair signed which he THOUGHT was his charter membership in the George W. Bush Fan Club, England is now the 52nd fucking state of the United Fucking States!
It's right after fucking Saudi Israelia!
Fuck yeah! We OWN fucking England! Y'all didn't fuckin' know that? Where the fuck have you dumbfucks been?
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| August 30th, 2005 06:00 AM |
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| thejuf |
next week I have to go back to teaching... How many times will I be allowed to use the F-word in front of the classroom????
this is fun.... I frequently do a competition with my students .(my Italian teacher at university taught us basic Italian swearing at our very first lesson, and believe me: Italians sure know the tricks of the trade!!)
The rules in my classroom being:
-f-word allowed, as long as it is pronounced correctly.
-only in English!
-make a list of all the words on the blackboard, to be spelt correctly!
-no sexist or racial abuse is ever allowed!
-alternative swearing gets a bonus(e.g.,no offensive words, but scold people by using everyday objects...This can be fun with 15-year-olds!)If any student starts swearing or scolding others in public I always tell them to use alternative words instead.... it helps, because it eases tension.
-pupils are not allowed to instruct their parents afterwards.........
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| August 30th, 2005 01:07 PM |
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| Trey Krimsin |
FUCK! I cannot fucking believe what I just fucking read. That was completely fucked up! How the fuck does any fucking body let that fucking happen? Why the fuck did they let this fucking happen? I'm fucking out of my fucked up mind trying to fucking fathom it! FUCK!!!!! |
| August 30th, 2005 04:13 PM |
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| gypsy |
quote:
Trey Krimsin wrote:
FUCK! I cannot fucking believe what I just fucking read. That was completely fucked up! How the fuck does any fucking body let that fucking happen? Why the fuck did they let this fucking happen? I'm fucking out of my fucked up mind trying to fucking fathom it! FUCK!!!!!
Trey, just fucking let it go. Fuck that shit, man. Fuck it. I cried two tears in a bucket, I say "fuck it!" |
| August 30th, 2005 04:19 PM |
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| voodoopug |
quote:
Gazza wrote:
I fucking read that today myself
No fucking wonder this fucking country is going to hell in a fucking bucket, thanks to the fucking fuckers who run it..
"Oops, thats one "fuck" too many, Ronnie!"
Best Gazza yet! |
| August 30th, 2005 10:04 PM |
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| stonedinaustralia |
well i can see it as acceptable in an english class
the various uses and meanings of the word make it a grammar teachers dream
see for example:
http://www.gusworld.com.au/nrc/thesis/ch-4.htm |
| August 30th, 2005 10:37 PM |
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| Gazza |
FUCK OFF !!! |
| August 30th, 2005 10:46 PM |
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| sirmoonie |
When I was in school, it was the emotive "suck my goddam dick," with or without the exclamation, that got me the most positive results. It was never any of this "fuck you" and "fuck that" like these kids today say. Its a damn shame whats happened to our educalatory system. |
| August 30th, 2005 10:46 PM |
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| stonedinaustralia |
FUCK YOU - YOU FUCK WIT
YOU CAN ALL FUCKING WELL GET FUCKED...YOU FUCKERS ARE ALL FUCKED UP AND I'VE HAD E-FUCKING-NOUGH OF IT
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| August 31st, 2005 10:48 AM |
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| Ten Thousand Motels |
Well government school's classes are meant to get kids in touch with their inner barbarian. |
| August 31st, 2005 11:00 AM |
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| egon |
!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| August 31st, 2005 01:09 PM |
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| Joey |
quote:
egon wrote:
!!!!!!!!!!!!
Egon .......................................
" Jaggerbomb " ?!?!?!
**** JOEY NOW SIGNS OFF HIS COMPUTER AND HEADS HOME FOR LUNCH ***** |
| August 31st, 2005 01:12 PM |
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| Trey Krimsin |
quote:
gypsy wrote:
Trey, just fucking let it go. Fuck that shit, man. Fuck it. I cried two tears in a bucket, I say "fuck it!"
You fucking cried two fucking tears in a fucking bucket? That is some fucked up bullshit there! Well......FUCK! |
