| 21st February 2008 05:46 PM |
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| Rolling Hansie |
I know this is absolutely Off Topic, and I am very sorry to bother you with this, but it is so important to me, that I can't resist to post it anyway. A dear friend of mine send me the story of her brother who was sentenced to jail, because he defended himself against someone who attacked him with a knife and a metal baton. You can find the story at the link I posted below. You can also sign a petition there.
http://petition.nogpl.net/ |
| 21st February 2008 06:25 PM |
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| fireontheplatter |
wow...that sucks
hopefully he'll get out early due to good behaviour |
| 21st February 2008 06:50 PM |
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| Brainbell Jangler |
I took the time to read some of the attached links. It appears that the convicted man ran down the knife-wielding thug with some sort of automobile. I don't know much about UK law, but in the US, self-defense is limited to that type and degree of force that is reasonable under the circumstances. Some jurisdictions also impose a duty to retreat if possible before using deadly force. It appears that this guy was charged with Attempted Murder and negotiated a plea to Assault. He probably wasn't sure a jury would buy a self-defense. |
| 21st February 2008 06:51 PM |
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| Fiji Joe |
Did I miss it, or did the article say what happened to the attacker?...Was he killed?...Did he serve time too? |
| 21st February 2008 06:55 PM |
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| fireontheplatter |
if it was attempted murder..which i highly doubt it was, three years and eight months is nothing.
it sounds like he got the shit end of the stick tho. |
| 21st February 2008 06:56 PM |
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| robpop |
He broke his leg, colar bone, and punctured a lung. He is awaiting trial. |
| 21st February 2008 07:21 PM |
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| Dan |
The next logical step after gun control laws - outlaw any self defense whatsoever. |
| 21st February 2008 08:03 PM |
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| TampabayStone |
quote:
Dan wrote:
The next logical step after gun control laws - outlaw any self defense whatsoever.
Right?!?! Gun control, pfft. I could not live in my nieghborhood without one. The gays and most the Whites in my hood don't beleive in guns, but they sometimes get Robbed, then want to bitch about at the board meetings. I guess I want to keep my investment and stuff, more then they do. |
| 21st February 2008 08:29 PM |
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| Fiji Joe |
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TampabayStone wrote:
Right?!?! Gun control, pfft. I could not live in my nieghborhood without one. The gays and most the Whites in my hood don't beleive in guns, but they sometimes get Robbed, then want to bitch about at the board meetings. I guess I want to keep my investment and stuff, more then they do.
People get robbed in Gibtown? |
| 21st February 2008 08:34 PM |
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| TampabayStone |
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Fiji Joe wrote:
People get robbed in Gibtown?
Yeah, it's those fucking midgets....
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| 21st February 2008 08:40 PM |
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| Fiji Joe |
I played ball against a team from Belmont Heights once....Dereck Bell pitched and Gary Sheffield caught...and their team did this really cool hand and thigh slapping chanting routine during player introductions...us?...we got sent back to the dorm to get the proper equipment...seems little league officials were convinced that boys our age couldn't kick that high while wearing athletic cups
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| 21st February 2008 08:48 PM |
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| TampabayStone |
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Fiji Joe wrote:
I played ball against a team from Belmont Heights once....Dereck Bell pitched and Gary Sheffield caught...and their team did this really cool hand and thigh slapping chanting routine during player introductions...us?...we got sent back to the dorm to get the proper equipment...seems little league officials were convinced that boys our age couldn't kick that high while wearing athletic cups
Those dudes actually grew up in my ex's hood. They still say hello when they run into her mom. |
| 21st February 2008 08:58 PM |
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| Fiji Joe |
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TampabayStone wrote:
Those dudes actually grew up in my ex's hood. They still say hello when they run into her mom.
I swear Derek Bell was 25 when we played against him...Makes sense too...he was a MLB all-star at allegedly 28 and out of baseball at 32?...He should have been in his prime...not breaking down |
| 21st February 2008 09:06 PM |
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| TampabayStone |
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Fiji Joe wrote:
I swear Derek Bell was 25 when we played against him...Makes sense too...he was a MLB all-star at allegedly 28 and out of baseball at 32?...He should have been in his prime...not breaking down
Huh, I thought he was older when he retired., I guess he just looked it. How old were you guys supposed to be?
How long has Sheff been in the bigs, 45 years?? |
| 21st February 2008 09:13 PM |
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| Fiji Joe |
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TampabayStone wrote:
Huh, I thought he was older when he retired., I guess he just looked it. How old were you guys supposed to be?
How long has Sheff been in the bigs, 45 years??
We were 12...he was 6'1 and looked 40...Had we beaten them, we were in the little league world series...instead, they went and got beat by Taiwan who had an infield comprised of 30 year olds |
| 21st February 2008 11:06 PM |
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| TampabayStone |
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Fiji Joe wrote:
We were 12...he was 6'1 and looked 40...Had we beaten them, we were in the little league world series...instead, they went and got beat by Taiwan who had an infield comprised of 30 year olds
Good stuff, good memories! |
| 22nd February 2008 08:49 AM |
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| gimmekeef |
Theres two sides to every coin.A line exists between self defense and vigilantism. |
| 22nd February 2008 09:07 AM |
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| Ten Thousand Motels |
quote:
Dan wrote:
The next logical step after gun control laws - outlaw any self defense whatsoever.
The police will be there to protect and serve.
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| 22nd February 2008 09:21 AM |
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| gimmekeef |
Derek Bell was asked to retire after the baseball card companies refused to put his ugly face on their products.Poor guy had a mug like a can of crushed assholes. |
| 22nd February 2008 11:31 PM |
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| robpop |
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gimmekeef wrote:
Derek Bell was asked to retire after the baseball card companies refused to put his ugly face on their products.Poor guy had a mug like a can of crushed assholes.
Actually it was worse than that. The Pittsburgh Pirates forced him out of the game after his "Operation Shutdown".
http://espn.go.com/mlb/news/2002/0318/1353807.html
He is a piece of shit. |
| 23rd February 2008 02:57 AM |
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| Rolling Hansie |
Thanks guys and dolls. I forgot to ask. Of course my friend would like everybody to pass this on. If anyone wants to post this on other messageboards, please do.
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| 23rd February 2008 05:20 PM |
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| Rolling Hansie |
Email from Liz.
Thank you so much for everything you have done. Please say thank you to everyone for their support. I am in Scotland have just been to see Dorothy and the children.....very upsetting. However cheered the older boys up when I let them see the Stones websites. Going to see Stephen tomorrow, not looking forward to it. Will put my best glimmer twins face on.
Love and Thanks to All,
Liz
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| 24th February 2008 10:52 AM |
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| TampabayStone |
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robpop wrote:
Actually it was worse than that. The Pittsburgh Pirates forced him out of the game after his "Operation Shutdown".
http://espn.go.com/mlb/news/2002/0318/1353807.html
He is a piece of shit.
Operation Shutdown, that's some funny shit. |
| 24th February 2008 11:05 AM |
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| robpop |
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TampabayStone wrote:
Operation Shutdown, that's some funny shit.
Bell was not a yinzer, nor was he liked by the yinzers. He did add that phrase to the yinzer dialect though. People use that phrase a lot around here.
I was remember him saying something about riding his yaucht off into the sunset during "operation shutdown". It was really funny. |
| 26th February 2008 03:18 PM |
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| TampabayStone |
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robpop wrote:
Bell was not a yinzer, nor was he liked by the yinzers. He did add that phrase to the yinzer dialect though. People use that phrase a lot around here.
I was remember him saying something about riding his yaucht off into the sunset during "operation shutdown". It was really funny.
He's Tampian. Those people are weird. |
| 28th February 2008 12:36 PM |
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| Rolling Hansie |
Another message from Liz:
Thanks guys.Saw Stephen on Sunday he looked well and even laughed and joked with us.It was still a horrible experience especially seeing him say goodbye to the children.On a positive note the petition is now at 20,000 and growing.Thanks to all the Stones people who have added their names.
I am busy meeting with MP's and lawyers etc.Also trying to help Dorothy with the children.Poor kids missing their dad and having to put up with my cooking!Off to make a stunningly average Spag Bog.I will keep in touch, Thanks again for your help.
Lots of Love,
Liz
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| 29th February 2008 01:30 PM |
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| jostorm |
quote:
Dan wrote:
The next logical step after gun control laws - outlaw any self defense whatsoever.
It is official, Dan : you are a monumental WANKER!
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RollingHansie: Thanks for bringing this to our attention, I've just signed as well. I'm sure (although I am not a lawyer), that the judge simply interpreted the law as best as he could, which is what he has to do, no doubt his sympathy lies with the victim, not the perpetrator.
It is simply the law that has to be changed, as it stands, the human rights of perpetrators seem to weigh in heavier than the human rights of victims, Great Britain is slowly but surely going down the drain, and the majority of decent people's lives are often blighted by the dubious rights of a few. Did you know that inb Glasgow 1 out of 4 people are unemployed, and yet all the "wave of immigrants" somehow manage to find employment????
Thanks to the blind nanny state and the stupidly motivated politicians this is our state of affairs.
Emmigration form, anyone???????? |
