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Topic: Are the Rolling Stones "Genius" Return to archive
14th December 2006 01:31 PM
Ten Thousand Motels >Artistic genius may show itself in early childhood or later in life; either way, geniuses eventually differentiate themselves from the rest through great originality. Intellectual geniuses usually have crisp, clear-eyed visions of given situations, in which interpretation is unnecessary—the facts just hit them, and they build or act on the basis of those facts, usually with tremendous energy. Here too, accomplished geniuses in intellectual fields start out in many cases as child prodigies, gifted with superior memory, or just understanding.

The classical skill of the musical genius is the capability of holding many different melodies in one's head at once and knowing how they interact together. It is said that the great classical composers (Bach, Mozart, etc.) could hold five, six or even seven different melodies in their minds at once. They could write complicated music with many different parts all at once without having to hear it played. In comparison, the average person can only hold one melody in memory.<

14th December 2006 01:50 PM
TampabayStone
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Ten Thousand Motels wrote:
>Artistic genius may show itself in early childhood or later in life; either way, geniuses eventually differentiate themselves from the rest through great originality. Intellectual geniuses usually have crisp, clear-eyed visions of given situations, in which interpretation is unnecessary—the facts just hit them, and they build or act on the basis of those facts, usually with tremendous energy. Here too, accomplished geniuses in intellectual fields start out in many cases as child prodigies, gifted with superior memory, or just understanding.

The classical skill of the musical genius is the capability of holding many different melodies in one's head at once and knowing how they interact together. It is said that the great classical composers (Bach, Mozart, etc.) could hold five, six or even seven different melodies in their minds at once. They could write complicated music with many different parts all at once without having to hear it played. In comparison, the average person can only hold one melody in memory.<





14th December 2006 01:51 PM
Ten Thousand Motels Yep. Great Marketers. How can one become the greatest rock n roll band in the world without ingenius marketing saavy....as well as the Songs.
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14th December 2006 02:05 PM
sammy davis jr. They aren't geniuses. More like lazy- hence open g barre chords etc. Plus geniuses don't write songs like "New Faces"
or "Indian Girl".
14th December 2006 02:37 PM
TampabayStone
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sammy davis jr. wrote:
They aren't geniuses. More like lazy- hence open g barre chords etc. Plus geniuses don't write songs like "New Faces"
or "Indian Girl".



14th December 2006 02:47 PM
Ten Thousand Motels
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sammy davis jr. wrote:
They aren't geniuses. More like lazy- hence open g barre chords etc. Plus geniuses don't write songs like "New Faces"



But they do write songs like Dead Flowers and Street Fighting Man....and a bunch of others. The Stones seem to be piece of artwork themselves.
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14th December 2006 07:31 PM
guitarman53 I can see "W.A. Mozart" as genius, but let's not get out of hand here, come on, anybody who grew up in the 60's knows that if it wasn't for the Beatles, & their break thru, none of these English bands would probably never been known, go back to the times of what it was like back then, just being a musician, does not make anyone a genius, unless their like what the description is at the start of this post, another thing is the difference between classical music & Rock 'N' Roll, is like the difference between reading a great novel & a comic book, Rock 'N' Roll comes from 12 barre blues, simple, those classical composers had to write music for a whole orchestra, & even beyond.
14th December 2006 07:48 PM
Gazza
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Ten Thousand Motels wrote:


But they do write songs like Dead Flowers and Street Fighting Man....


Did

Genius is a very overused word in rock and pop music. Some artists are capable of creative genius, perhaps, but rarely for more than a short period of time.

As guitarman53 suggests, its hardly akin to Mozart writing symphonies when he was 8.

Being a genius on a particular instrument, a la Hendrix, is a different thing however.
[Edited by Gazza]
14th December 2006 07:51 PM
Ten Thousand Motels
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Gazza wrote:
Being a genius on a particular instrument, a la Hendrix, is a different thing however.



A step beyond genius....shaman. Or something like that.
15th December 2006 02:00 PM
guitarman53
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Gazza wrote:


Did

Genius is a very overused word in rock and pop music. Some artists are capable of creative genius, perhaps, but rarely for more than a short period of time.

As guitarman53 suggests, its hardly akin to Mozart writing symphonies when he was 8.

Being a genius on a particular instrument, a la Hendrix, is a different thing however.
[Edited by Gazza]


Totally agree, Hendrix lived within a guitar, he was so in tune with his instrument that there's never been anyone like him before, if anyone is into Jazz, Charlie Parker is another person who was very similiar.
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