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Topic: 007 is back with a vengence! (nsc) Return to archive Page: 1 2
26th November 2006 02:01 PM
Riffhard Well I finally saw Casino Royal last night. Let me just come right out and say it. The new Bond flick is the best Bond movie since Goldfinger! That's right the best! It may even be better than the Connery era Bond movies! I was a little bit hesitant at the thought of a blond haired blue eyed Bond,but Daniel Craig IS Bond! He's not the Dapper Dandyfied Bond that was Peirce Brosnan. He's not the Campy Gadget Addicted Quipster Bond that was Roger Moore. He's not the Bored Stiff Banal Bond that was Timothy Dalton. He sure as hell isn't George Lazenby! No. He is the very essence of the true James Bond of Flemming's books. He's a true badass and he bleeds. He's got it all.

Go see this movie! Even if you are not a fan of Bond movies you will really enjoy this one. Who knows,you may even become a Bond fan after you watch this brilliant movie. I took my girlfriend to see it last night. She was excited to go,but only because she knows that I am a Bond Geek. So she was happy for me. Well,as it turns out,she loved it! She has been talking about it all day long. Trust me here. This is not some gay escapist crap shite ala anything ever done by Van Dam or Segal. No this movie has a brilliant plot line and some great action scenes as well as the best acting that I have ever seen in a 007 movie. And,yes,that includes the Connery era Bond run! Everyone brings great acting chops to the Bond franchise this time,and it is very evident from the outset that the franchise has found some great new legs. Daniel Craig is as good a Bond as Connery ever was,and I NEVER thought that I would say that,but it's true!



Riffy


[Edited by Riffhard]
26th November 2006 02:46 PM
Bloozehound cool, I'll check it out on pay per view
26th November 2006 02:51 PM
erikjjf Saw it last night. It far exceeded my expectations.
One of the best latter day Bond movies.
26th November 2006 03:01 PM
Jumping Jack Well, what we really want to know is how hot are the women?
26th November 2006 05:13 PM
Gimme Shelter Yeah, I saw it opening night and thought it was really good. They have totally reinvented the franchise.
26th November 2006 05:17 PM
Poplar
Thought the leading lady was weak, and Bond's weakness for her lame...

otherwise - top notch Bond, a great reinvention... fast, and exciting, with just the right number Bond type elements.

leaves you really excited for the next one. Craig is a bad ass.

26th November 2006 06:22 PM
TornAndFrayed Saw it last night and it was surprisingly good.
26th November 2006 06:43 PM
time is on my side Best Bond since Connery
26th November 2006 08:43 PM
monkey_man Just saw this a few hours ago. . .probably the best SINCE Connery. None the the inane double entendre script moments. I thought the writing was some of the best this franchise has seen. I thought the love interest/ fake ending made the movie drag a bit but overall I thought it was the best one in 35 years.
26th November 2006 10:17 PM
PeerQueer I have heard nothing but good things - Craig was all over the production of this one- the only way he was willing to sign on. He is a very strong actor and appears to be looking top notch for this role.

I caught him in a stage show some time ago...very impressive - strong presence, comes off much more intimidating than his average height/build would suggest.

I have been a Bond fan since growing up on Moore's films back in the day (Campy fun Bond - I still dig them), but Connery has always been Bond #1 and I hear Craig is right up there with Casino Royale -I plan to see it with some friends next weekend in Palm Springs. (family winter compound - Christmas in the desert!)
27th November 2006 09:52 AM
nankerphelge "I have heard nothing but good things "

Except for jizztwat -- which means it must be great.
27th November 2006 09:56 AM
glencar Daniel Craig was quite good in Layer Cake which is playing on Encore this month. I haven't seen this new Bond yet but if Nutball Jizzy says it's the worst, it must be pretty damned good.
27th November 2006 06:05 PM
time is on my side There's not any movie or album ever made where you can't find some opinion from somewhere blasting it or praising it. I can find a review saying Exile On Main St is a piece of shit. Does that make it a piece of shit based on that review??? It's why critical acclaim is based, not on ones man's review, but on an overall consesus of opinion.

You may not like it but the truth of the matter is the overwhelming majority of reviews are giving the latest Bond adventure the thumbs up. Not inconsequentially so are the majority of people who have actually seen the movie. For the review you've cut and pasted here, I could cut and paste a dozen which says the exact opposite.
27th November 2006 06:07 PM
time is on my side Oh by the way, carry on.
27th November 2006 07:32 PM
Riffhard
quote:
time is on my side wrote:
Not inconsequentially so are the majority of people who have actually seen the movie. For the review you've cut and pasted here, I could cut and paste a dozen which says the exact opposite.




You are absolutely right about the fact that reviews may vary depending on who is giving the review,but I did not cut and paste that review. That is my take on the movie. I saw it. It is the best Bond movie in,not years,but rather decades! I could care less what Jizzy has to say about it. He just enjoys being a contrarian and everyone knows it.



Riffy
27th November 2006 07:40 PM
time is on my side
quote:
Riffhard wrote:



You are absolutely right about the fact that reviews may vary depending on who is giving the review,but I did not cut and paste that review. That is my take on the movie. I saw it. It is the best Bond movie in,not years,but rather decades! I could care less what Jizzy has to say about it. He just enjoys being a contrarian and everyone knows it.



Riffy



I was responding to a post that has since been deleted by Jizzy which was a cut and paste job (a review basically saying that the new Bond movie was a complete waste of time). I was not responding to your review which you obviously wrote yourself.
27th November 2006 07:55 PM
Riffhard
quote:
time is on my side wrote:


I was responding to a post that has since been deleted by Jizzy which was a cut and paste job (a review basically saying that the new Bond movie was a complete waste of time). I was not responding to your review which you obviously wrote yourself.




Oh,got it. My bad then. You saw it though right? Killer wasn't it? I wonder if they are going to redo the old Bond flicks with Craig? It would be cool to see an updated version of Goldfinger,for example,with Craig as Bond. He is the only post-Connery Bond that could really pull it off. I think that would be a great way to reinvent the whole series. It certainly worked with Casino Royal.


Riffy
27th November 2006 08:42 PM
lotsajizz 'Living Daylights' was a plot that could be reworked with this new guy if he is capable of putting forth the required sadism.....which accounts say he is if nothing else....and everone hates Dalton anyway (except me) so it might be worth redoing



btw, Wayne Newton was great in that movie
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27th November 2006 08:56 PM
monkey_man
quote:
lotsajizz wrote:
'Living Daylights

btw, Wayne Newton was great in that movie
[Edited by lotsajizz]



Not to out-Bond-geek you or anything but I think you mean License to Kill. . .and Benicio del Toro blew Newton out of the water
27th November 2006 08:57 PM
lotsajizz yup, my mistake, the second Dalton one....and DelToro can out-act just about anyone
[Edited by lotsajizz]
28th November 2006 12:22 AM
Rizollin Well, any Bond fan can tell what my favorite 007 film is from my picture. I thought Casino was pretty damn good. I was surprised how close it was to Fleming's book.

I think that remaking Goldfinger with Craig is not a good idea, since the movie is so iconic, and anyway it was pretty close to the book. Bond books that really need to be done properly are You Only Live Twice, Live and Let Die (although Licence To Kill used most of the good stuff which was left out of Roger Moore's movie), The Man With the Golden Gun, and Moonraker (what a fucking joke that movie was. The book is killer). Diamonds are Forever weasn't a very good book, so I don't care the movie didn't follow it.

I think this movie is probably the best introduction to a new Bond ever (Connery's first included; he made the character his own, but he was never and never will be Fleming's bond). Can't wait for the next one, think it will be even better, if it follows the trend of every new Bond's second outing being better than his first. (Brosnan not included, but his films don't count anyway)
28th November 2006 01:33 AM
glencar Jizzy could learn from you if he had a working brain cell.
[Edited by glencar]
28th November 2006 01:42 AM
Poplar
quote:
lotsajizz wrote:
'Living Daylights' was a plot that could be reworked with this new guy



i know you meant "Licence to Kill" - but ugh. to me - the production quality on that one is damn near B movie status. To me, it was the first bond flick (regardless of which bond and which movie) that didn't look worthy of being a Bond flick. "Living Daylights" to me was a pretty worthy effort coming out of Moore. LTK, and all the Brosnan ones didn't seem like authentic Bond.

Casino Royal really broke that trend for me. It was fresh in just the right way, or at least just enough of the right way. I walked out of the theater thinking this: "Holy shit... if Bond isn't going to come out next time ready to kick ass like no Bond we've ever seen!!!" I think that says a lot for the flick. The last 2 minutes are so fucking perfect... serious props to the people who crafted the very end of the movie... serious style points there.

28th November 2006 06:04 AM
lotsajizz
quote:
glencar wrote:
Jizzy could learn from you if he had a working brain cell.
[Edited by glencar]




your Love shines through obsession-dog!!



28th November 2006 06:16 PM
Stonesthrow
quote:
Rizollin wrote:

I think this movie is probably the best introduction to a new Bond ever (Connery's first included; he made the character his own, but he was never and never will be Fleming's bond). Can't wait for the next one, think it will be even better, if it follows the trend of every new Bond's second outing being better than his first. (Brosnan not included, but his films don't count anyway)




Man With The Golden Gun better than Live And Let Die? uh, no. License To Kill better than Living Daylights? uh, no. Tomorrow Never Dies better than Goldeneye? uh HELL no. I will give you From Russia With Love over Dr. No, but I liked Connery's ruthless demeanor in Dr. No. I also happen to agree with you re OHMSS being the best, despite Lazenby. It would have been even better with Connery. Diana Rigg was also one of the best Bond girls. She reminded me of what a dream girl should be-- a beautiful rich nymphomaniac whose father owns a liquor store.

I did like Daniel Craig as James Bond-- blunt object in this movie. His falling for Vesper Lynd was terribly weak, but he did in Fleming's first book, too. She damn near changed his double 0 to oh oh.


[Edited by Stonesthrow]
29th November 2006 05:54 AM
luxury1 something a bit evil, dirty, dangerous, even adrogynous in that Daniel Craig. I like it....
29th November 2006 11:08 AM
Honky Tonk Man A remake of Goldfinger wouldn’t happen because it’s already part of the official James Bond series of films. I doubt Daniel Craig would want to tamper with it. They could make Casino Royale because the original film wasn’t part of the series.

Who'd want to tamper with a classic anyway? It'd be an absolute disaster.

The next Bond installment will be a direct continuation of the current story. A Casino Royale part 2 kind of thing.
29th November 2006 07:57 PM
Rizollin Stonesthrow-

I said my rule excluded Brosnan- I agree that Goldeneye is superior. As for Live and Let Die and Man with the Golden Gun, that's like asking "which turd is more polished?"

Gotta disagree that Connery would be better than Laz in OHMSS. Just can't see him falling in love with a girl. Or his rather wide ass on skis. Once you get past all the negative crap about Lazenby, and his own arrogant self, you will hopefully agree that he did a damn fine job.

Licence To Kill is in my top three Bonds. It's not as exotic as it could be. I believe it's budget was cut quite a bit, and was originally going to take place in Hong Kong.
29th November 2006 08:08 PM
lotsajizz License To Kill had the most ruthless Bond yet...
29th November 2006 08:20 PM
Riffhard
quote:
lotsajizz wrote:
License To Kill had the most ruthless Bond yet...



You say that having not seen Casino Royal,I trust? Because Daniel Craig is easily the most ruthless Bond that I have ever seen,and I have seen them all. I do quite like Dalton in LTK,but Craig is a truely vicious badass in CR. Go check it out Jizzy,and thank me tomarrow. Trust me here.


Riffy
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