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Topic: Stones film gives clue to Altamont murder Return to archive
December 3rd, 2004 06:33 AM
Zeeta Read this yesterday in Guardian and found an electronic link!

Geoffrey Macnab
Thursday December 2, 2004
The Guardian

The San Francisco Police department has asked to see footage from the film Gimme Shelter as it reopens investigations into a death at the Rolling Stones' Altamont concert in 1969. During the concert, at which Hell's Angels notoriously provided the security, an 18-year-old black man called Meredith Hunter was attacked and killed.
Documentary-makers Albert Maysles and his brother David recorded the concert and released it as a film, Gimme Shelter, in 1970. Speaking at the International Documentary festival in Amsterdam last week, 74-year-old Albert Maysles revealed that he would be making the movie available to the San Francisco police as soon as possible.

The police, he said, "want to see some of the out-takes of all that stuff at the time of the crime - if it was a crime. An argument could be made that it was an act of self-defence."

The precise circumstances of Hunter's death have never been established. "In almost every newspaper you read, the victim was a black guy holding a knife," said Maysles. "Black guys hold knives - that was the stereotype. But the film showed otherwise."

Maysles argues today that the Altamont disaster was "a perfect argument for legalising drugs. If drugs were legal, then [the concert organisers] would have had a proper security force. It wouldn't have been the Hell's Angels. And if a governmental agency had been policing, then it would have been OK. There wouldn't have been the killing."

At the Amsterdam festival, Maysles also unveiled a new copy of the brothers' 1965 documentary, Meet Marlon Brando. The film has been out of circulation for nearly 40 years: Brando, who called it "too much of a word salad", didn't allow them show it. Now, though, Albert is planning a DVD release that will include footage he filmed at the recent memorial service for Brando, who died in July.

Meet Marlon Brando was shot during the actor's promotional tour for Morituri, a second world war thriller co-starring Yul Brynner. Albert and David (who died in 1987) honed in on Brando as he met TV journalists from all over the US.

The film shows the star, bombarded with a series of ever more inane questions from interviewers who have not even seen his movie, responding in bravura fashion. He throws their questions back at them, flirts outrageously with the female journalists, holds forth on the plight of the Native American peoples and even enlists a pretty young passer-by to answer questions about the artist's responsibility to "speak out" on social issues.



December 3rd, 2004 06:45 AM
J.J.Flash To me is clear as water to notice that Meredith was holding a gun. You can easily notice the gun against his girlfriend's dress.

Talkin' about the Angels, what about that Sonny Barger motherfucker?!? I heard that he wrote a book blaming Jagger for what happened at Altamont. Fuckin' cocksmoker!
December 3rd, 2004 07:25 AM
Sir Stonesalot If you have the DVD of Gimme Shelter, check out the KSAN radio call-in show. Sonny shows himself to be an evil man.

I don't get Albert's drug legalization hypothesis. Altamont was thrown together in a rapid and haphazard manner. That is where the problems were born.

There would have been trouble regardless of who was doing security.
December 3rd, 2004 08:18 AM
gimmekeef Those were the days the Stones were trying to be #1 in the media.They needed something to highlight the tour in 69 and compete with the scale of Woodstock.(which they did not of course attend).So voila....Altamont..a total disaster including the performance...They bear the most responsibility because they allowed it to unfold.Sonny Barger and his thugs were invited because the organizers knew they'd just show up anyway....
December 3rd, 2004 08:18 PM
Soldatti Thanks Zeeta
December 3rd, 2004 08:46 PM
sirmoonie Sounds like BS to me. Re-open a 35 year old murder investigation based upon footage that been publicly available for decades?

Anyway, we all know Brian Jones killed that dude.
December 4th, 2004 07:32 AM
egon
quote:
sirmoonie wrote:
Anyway, we all know Brian Jones killed that dude.



December 4th, 2004 12:55 PM
Ten Thousand Motels
quote:
sirmoonie wrote:
Sounds like BS to me. Re-open a 35 year old murder investigation based upon footage that been publicly available for decades?




Yeah, really. Why bother? Something's not quite right.
December 4th, 2004 01:32 PM
gypsy
quote:
sirmoonie wrote:
Sounds like BS to me. Re-open a 35 year old murder investigation based upon footage that been publicly available for decades?

Anyway, we all know Brian Jones killed that dude.



I always knew it was Brian. He was such a prick.
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