| 19th November 2006 07:02 AM |
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| Ten Thousand Motels |
Sun, November 19, 2006
Baddest of the bad
Stones' Glimmer Twins no match for Jones, new book confirms
By JOHN KRYK, SUN MEDIA
Winnepeg Sun
Hell hath no fury, and assessment no brutality, like a Stones wife scorned.
It was guitarist Keith Richards' longtime first wife, Anita Pallenberg, who famously and coldbloodedly summed up both her ex and his Glimmer Twin within the Rolling Stones, singer Mick Jagger, after Richards left her for good in the late '70s.
Pallenberg suggested Richards and Jagger had assumed the two dominant sides of founding member Brian Jones' personality after his death -- Richards, forever since, trying to come off as rock 'n' roll's coolest and meanest dude, and Jagger rock 'n' roll's ultimate womanizing sexaholic.
"Brian (Jones) was so far ahead of them you wouldn't believe it," Pallenberg told journalist David Dalton circa 1980. "Here are Mick and Keith up on stage trying to learn how to be sex objects, and Brian already having two illegitimate children. Brian was acting on it faster than anybody else ... They were still schoolboys.
"(Brian) was a bully ... (He'd) break a bottle on the table edge and put the glass in his pocket. I think he got away with slashing someone's face in a New York club."
Like Richards ever did that.
A new coffee-table book on the Stones, The Rolling Stones In The Beginning (in stores now), is filled with the outstanding photography of Bent Rej. The band gave Rej exclusive behind-the-scenes access in 1965 and '66, and the results are impressive.
WHO'S COOLER?
It is on these pages where one can see how Pallenberg formed her frank appraisals. Check out the classic shot of Brian and Keith playing their guitars Who's the coolest looking guitarist? Why Brian, of course. Keith looks like the guy whose mum was still doing his laundry.
Seems there are a gazillion Beatles books like this, but few -- if any -- Stones books so rich in photographic quality and quantity. As well, Rej captures a band at the precise time when the power was shifting once and for all from Jones to Jagger/Richards.
Pallenberg was a stunningly gorgeous, blond, bit-part actress from Germany. She first met the Stones in 1965 and instantly began a hot but doomed love affair with Jones, the band's brilliant but psychologically vulnerable multi-instrumentalist. Rej captures the couple at the height of their short-lived happiness.
In 1967 Pallenberg dumped Jones for Richards, then Jones' best friend in the band -- a colossal double-betrayal that Jones never got over. Two drug-addled years later, Jones quit the band, then weeks later was found dead in his swimming pool.
His personas, though, apparently live on.
THE ROLLING STONES IN THE BEGINNING
By: Brent Rej
Foreword: Bill Wyman
Publisher: Mitchell Beazley
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| 19th November 2006 09:19 AM |
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| Ten Thousand Motels |
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Ten Thousand Motels wrote:
Pallenberg suggested Richards and Jagger had assumed the two dominant sides of founding member Brian Jones' personality after his death -- Richards, forever since, trying to come off as rock 'n' roll's coolest and meanest dude, and Jagger rock 'n' roll's ultimate womanizing sexaholic.
I suppose there's some truth to that. But I think they would have ended up there anyway with or without Brian. |
| 19th November 2006 09:22 AM |
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| monkeyman62 |
this all may be true but who are the ones that are still standing? |
| 19th November 2006 04:45 PM |
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| Mickijaggeroo |
I have the book mentioned above, I consider it a must have.
So many previously unseen pics in there. |
| 20th November 2006 12:31 AM |
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| PeerQueer |
PSSHHHHHHHHHHH
Initially Brian was ahead in the getting laid and partying department - but within a couple years of the band's inception, both Mick and Keith were emerging as the stronger personalities, as well as musical forces that would take the band to its greatest heights.
Brian was a very gifted musician, had a handsome face (before drug and drink bloated it)and fit in well with the swinging London era - but he lacked the originality to create new music on a consistent basis, and was so overcome with insecurity and personal demons he became the weak link just as the band was asserting itself as the dominant rock act in the world. Brian certainly helped define the Stones look and sound, but Mick and Keith further refined it, and by the late 60's, completely controlled it, much to Brian's dismay.
And to say Brian was tougher than Keith...shit, recount after recount tells of Keith's penchant for aggressive behavior when he felt he was wronged. Brian was physically weak he would smack women around, but little else - Keith had that more rugged and wiry lean-tiger thing that really defined rock cool in the late 60s and early 70s. Brian was a manic passive aggressive (similar to Mick) but Keith was -and is to a lesser extent - plain aggressive.
Anita is selling an image, and paying tribute to an important man in her long ago past - but I hear she still pines for Keith after all these years.
Keith has always been the straight on toughest Stone. Mick has always been the most motivated Stones. And as for Charlie, well, he is the most enigmatic Stone.
In the end, Brian Jones is a footnote of modern culture, while Mick and Keith are chapters. |
| 20th November 2006 05:03 AM |
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| corgi37 |
Who gives a rats ass? I couldnt care less. At least we can forever boast we never had Ringo in the band. |
| 20th November 2006 07:12 AM |
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| Mahatma Kane Jeeves |
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corgi37 wrote:
At least we can forever boast we never had Ringo in the band.
Or a Yoko |
| 20th November 2006 12:42 PM |
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| the good |
quote:
Ten Thousand Motels wrote:
Sun, November 19, 2006
"Brian (Jones) was so far ahead of them you wouldn't believe it," Pallenberg told journalist David Dalton circa 1980. "Here are Mick and Keith up on stage trying to learn how to be sex objects, and Brian already having two illegitimate children. Brian was acting on it faster than anybody else ... They were still schoolboys.
Only Anita could think the number of illigitimate children someone has is hallmark of coolness. Brian was a little twirp. A little twirp who could play slide guitar. Nobody looked cooler with a guitar in his hands than Keith did in the 60's and 70's.
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| 20th November 2006 12:43 PM |
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| texile |
quote:
PeerQueer wrote:
PSSHHHHHHHHHHH
Initially Brian was ahead in the getting laid and partying department - but within a couple years of the band's inception, both Mick and Keith were emerging as the stronger personalities, as well as musical forces that would take the band to its greatest heights.
Brian was a very gifted musician, had a handsome face (before drug and drink bloated it)and fit in well with the swinging London era - but he lacked the originality to create new music on a consistent basis, and was so overcome with insecurity and personal demons he became the weak link just as the band was asserting itself as the dominant rock act in the world. Brian certainly helped define the Stones look and sound, but Mick and Keith further refined it, and by the late 60's, completely controlled it, much to Brian's dismay.
And to say Brian was tougher than Keith...shit, recount after recount tells of Keith's penchant for aggressive behavior when he felt he was wronged. Brian was physically weak he would smack women around, but little else - Keith had that more rugged and wiry lean-tiger thing that really defined rock cool in the late 60s and early 70s. Brian was a manic passive aggressive (similar to Mick) but Keith was -and is to a lesser extent - plain aggressive.
Anita is selling an image, and paying tribute to an important man in her long ago past - but I hear she still pines for Keith after all these years.
Keith has always been the straight on toughest Stone. Mick has always been the most motivated Stones. And as for Charlie, well, he is the most enigmatic Stone.
In the end, Brian Jones is a footnote of modern culture, while Mick and Keith are chapters.
well put, brian was a great musician but couldn't write or create to save his life.
i always believed anita had a secret desire for jagger - something which she would never admit to.
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