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Topic: Jagger jokes at Royal expense Return to archive
11-14-01 07:50 AM
CS Rolling Stone Mick Jagger has lightheartedly complained about not being knighted - and joked about the Royal Family in the process.

In a documentary to be screened next week, the rock superstar suggests that Prince Charles was shocked to find out that he did not have any official honours.

Jagger, who met the Prince of Wales at the premiere of blockbuster Enigma, goes on to apparently mimic the Royal response to the discovery.

The British star puts on fake accent to say: "Is it true that you haven't got anything at all? That is rather odd, isn't it."

The 58-year-old star is seen poking lighthearted fun at everyone from Sir Elton John to Kate Winslet during the programme, Being Mick, which will be shown on Channel 4 on November 22.

Just before attending Sir Elton's summer charity ball with his 16-year-old daughter Elizabeth, Jagger refers to decoration at the party as "Venetian nonsense".

Showing his lack of modern pop star knowledge, he says to her: "You'll have to tell me who everyone is, there are just too many of them."

Viewers are given a glimpse of Jagger's life in the rest of the film, which is being screened to promote his new solo album, Goddess in the Doorway.

He is shown spending time with some of his other children, including his youngest son, three-year-old Gabriel, as he records the album at studios across the world.

Stars including Bono, Lenny Kravitz, Pete Townsend and Wyclef Jean, who all contributed to the album, also appear in footage of the various recording sessions.

There is also an inside look at Jagger the film producer, as he battles to get the ending of Enigma right following various test screenings.

He says: "I like to make intelligent films, but they are the most difficult ones to make because people want explosions. Bombs and bottoms are just not my thing."
11-14-01 07:51 AM
CS Jagger documentary shows him poking fun at Royals

Mick Jagger has poked fun at the Royal Family for his lack of honours.



He says the Royals were shocked to discover he did not have any official honours.

His comments come in a new programme, Being Mick, to be shown on Channel 4.

Mimicking one of the Royals at the premiere of Enigma, the Rolling Stone says: "Is it true that you haven't got anything at all? That is rather odd, isn't it."

And just before attending Sir Elton John's summer charity ball with his 16-year-old daughter Elizabeth, Jagger refers to decoration at the party as "Venetian nonsense".

Viewers are given a glimpse of Jagger's life in the film, which is being screened on November 22 to promote his new solo album, Goddess In The Doorway.

He is shown spending time with some of his other children, including his youngest son, three-year-old Gabriel, as he records the album at studios across the world.

Stars including Bono, Lenny Kravitz, Pete Townshend and Wyclef Jean, who all contributed to the album, also appear in footage of the various recording sessions.

There is also an inside look at Jagger the film producer, as he battles to get the ending of Enigma right following various test screenings.

He says: "I like to make intelligent films, but they are the most difficult ones to make because people want explosions. Bombs and bottoms are just not my thing."

Story filed: 00:09 Wednesday 14th November 2001
11-14-01 11:24 PM
CS THURSDAY NOVEMBER 15 2001

Affair rocked hopes for 'Sir Mick'

BY ADAM SHERWIN, MEDIA REPORTER

MICK JAGGER has said that he hankers after a knighthood, but his philandering appears to have scuppered the idea before.
It is believed that he was in line for the award two years ago, but the birth of his illegitimate son put a stop to the idea.

Tony Blair’s advisers are believed to have concluded that it would send the wrong signals to have created “Sir Mick”. Luciana Morad, a Brazilian model, had given birth to Jagger’s son during the list’s preparation. The singer was still married to Jerry Hall at the time.

Jagger says in a television documentary that members of the Royal Family were surprised to discover that he did not have any official honours.

Mimicking a family member just before he meets the Prince of Wales at the premiere of Enigma, which Jagger produced, the rock star says in the documentary to be screened on Channel 4 next Thursday: “Is it true that you haven’t got anything at all? That is rather odd, isn’t it.”

Although Jagger patented the “sex, drugs and rock’n’roll” lifestyle in the Sixties, he moves easily in aristocratic circles and has his royal cheerleaders. He remains a friend of Princess Margaret.

Friends say that he would accept a knighthood, giving him the same status as Sir Paul McCartney and Sir Elton John.

Sir Paul yesterday admitted that he used to take cocaine. The former Beatle said that he took the drug regularly for about a year, but his late wife Linda had helped him to kick the habit.

“Linda would say: ‘Are you sure you want to do that tonight?’ And I’d go: ‘Is there an alternative?’ ” he told Q Magazine. “She reminded me there was this real life there that I liked a lot.”
11-15-01 11:00 PM
VoodooChileInWOnderl Now we can call him the Mid-Knight Rambler!
11-16-01 08:46 AM
Mother baby Who knights who?
Everyone starts somewhere. Whoever gave these people the "right" to knight anyone anyway?
Why bother to knight Mick at all? Give him the Crown and send the House of Windsor packing. That's my take on it.


[Edited by Mother baby]
11-16-01 03:15 PM
Gazza >Who knights who?

The government chooses the recipients,not the monarch

>Whoever gave these people the "right" to knight anyone anyway?

well...the people who elected them in the first place I guess..lol
Theres "merit" systems of various descriptions in other democratic countries too to reward outstanding service in particular fields (the US,France etc..)..its not THAT different really,and a knighthood or a OBE or whatever is only a title...it doesnt mean shit in any practical sense.
11-17-01 10:44 AM
Jaxx The London Times

Honours

Jagger's Hard Day's Knight

BY ANDREW PIERCE

Why is Elton one, but not Mick? We explain the decision process surrounding knighthoods

No one knows exactly why Mick Jagger’s name has repeatedly fallen foul of the civil servants who draw up the list of candidates for knighthoods.
Jagger’s friends Paul McCartney, Elton John, and Cliff Richard, have all become knights of the realm after decades of recording success.

But the informed speculation in the corridors of power at Whitehall, where the honours decisions are taken, is that Jagger’s hedonistic lifestyle — he admitted recently his morality was “pretty fuzzy” — has cost him the gong he so badly wants.

Seven children by four different mothers and a messy DNA battle last year with Luciana Morad, who gave birth to his son Lucas, cannot have helped the Jagger cause.

His decision to challenge the legitimacy of his marriage in Bali to Jerry Hall when she filed for divorce because of his philandering called into question his moral values. He had lived with Hall, who was given a prenuptial agreement on the day of the union, for 22 years and fathered her four children.

Nor has his conviction for possession of amphetamines in 1967 helped his case — not only did it result in a spell behind bars, but a cooling of his then warm friendship with Princesss Margaret. Not that drugs cost Elton John, who famously battled cocaine and alcohol addiction, his opportunity to become a Sir.

The word is that Jagger’s relentless playboy lifestyle, at the age of 58, has proved too much for the mandarins in the Cabinet Office and Downing Street who decide who should get a gong.

Jagger’s music-buying fans can nominate him for an honour by filling in a special form, complete with signed letters from two other people, which goes into the ceremonial unit at the Cabinet Office. But the system was set up to honour the unsung heroes of local communities who will be given more lowly MBEs. The classic procedure is for names to emerge through the permament secretaries in the Whitehall ministries who then put forward outstanding candidates from their respective fields.

Ministers also put in a word with their civil servants or the Prime Minister. And, of course, the Labour Party fundraisers will have their own idea about who should be rewarded for their generosity.

Potential recipients are always sounded out beforehand. They are told that the Queen is minded to honour them and asked if a gong or a title would be acceptable. Not that the Queen has the slightest idea at this stage who she is going to knight. The Queen is presented with a fait accompli by the Prime Minister. A group of advisers, who are experts in various spheres of achievement, analyse the list from the permanent secretaries and ministers and reject unsuitable names. There are no specific exemptions.

However, drug dealers, wife beaters and murderers are unlikely to be given the chance to kneel before Her Majesty, although the odd liar and cheat has certainly made it, to the subsequent embarrassment of the Palace. The names are forwarded for “moderation” to the Honours Committee chaired by Sir Richard Wilson, the head of the Civil Service, who passes on the final list to the Prime Minister.

Tony Blair’s powers of patronage are such that he can add or substract names on the list at a whim. Any amendments by the Prime Minister go to the honours scrutiny committee, which is made up of three senior cross-party peers chaired by Lord Thomson of Monifieth.

Jagger’s name has been bandied about the honours committee at least twice.

He could have been recommended via Buggins’ Turn or nominated by some of his friends from the Labour establishment such as Lord Alli, the television mogul, who is an adviser to Tony Blair. Jagger’s name could even have surfaced around the Prime Minister’s table which could have proved his undoing. Mr Blair’s vision of family values is somewhat out of step with Jagger’s.

Call me Sir

Tim Bell — Tory spin-doctor who was knighted in Margaret Thatcher’s resignation honours list. He had a conviction in 1977 for indecent exposure and had admitted a serious cocaine habit.


Charlie Chaplin — Knighted in 1975, two years before his death, Chaplin had been banned from America on moral grounds. “Moral grounds” included his pro-Russian stance during the Second World War, but also his penchant for young girls, whether as co-stars, wives or both. His first two wives were both 16, his third 22 and his fourth 17.


Noël Coward — Knighted in 1970, 40 years after the success of Cavalcade. He had to wait until his past was well and truly behind him. He had lived his early life in the Soho sub-culture, faked illness to avoid conscription and had an affair with Prince George, the Duke of Kent.


Bob Geldof — Knighted for his work in famine relief, Bob is the only punk rocker to have been knighted. He has admitted to drug and alcohol binges in his days as front man of The Boomtown Rats.


John Gielgud — Knighted in 1977, the actor had been fined £10 in 1958 for “persistently importuning male persons for immoral purposes” at Dudmaston Mews, Chelsea.


Elton John — Knighted in 1995, the singer had previously been arrested on assault charges. He had publicly admitted to being cocaine-addicted, alcoholic and having paid for sex.


Paul McCartney — This former Beatle hasn’t always stayed on the right side of the British Government. His song Give Ireland back to the Irish was banned on the BBC; and he was arrested for possession of cannabis in the Far East.

11-17-01 10:54 AM
Mother baby Sorry, I was explained this once before I think but had forgotten: somehow I was under the impression that The King and family do what they want as far as that Knighthood stuff. I suppose in the Old days of King Arthur and Queen Victoria that's how it worked, before the advent of modern democracy. I think the monarchy changed hands once in awhile too....LOL.
Anyway Prince William are you reading this?
Maybe you can Knight 'em all for us when it's your turn heh? Sir Rolling Stones!!!!

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