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November 15th, 2004 12:38 PM
gimmekeef Heard on Atlanta radio U2 planning a 35 date Arena tour beginning in March 2005 in Florida (Miami).Two unannounced dates slated for Atlanta.After the 35 they are to play In Europe with 30 summer stadium dates then return to US arenas in late fall.If this proves accurate that would seem to push the Stones into 2006????
November 15th, 2004 12:46 PM
jb No real Stones fans will attend these concerts....If you chose to go, please disavow yourself as a Stones fan and cease posting on any Stones forum....
November 15th, 2004 12:58 PM
Lazy Bones
quote:
jb wrote:
No real Stones fans will attend these concerts....If you chose to go, please disavow yourself as a Stones fan and cease posting on any Stones forum....



Lol...
November 15th, 2004 01:41 PM
gimmekeef JB...no living person gives a shit about your posts...so why dont you just FADE AWAY.....
November 15th, 2004 01:43 PM
jb
quote:
gimmekeef wrote:
JB...no living person gives a shit about your posts...so why dont you just FADE AWAY.....

You are way cool!!!
November 15th, 2004 01:49 PM
jb
quote:
gimmekeef wrote:
JB...no living person gives a shit about your posts...so why dont you just FADE AWAY.....

See ya in Miami!!!
November 15th, 2004 02:32 PM
Joey " No real Stones fans will attend these concerts....If you chose to go, please disavow yourself as a Stones fan and cease posting on any Stones forum.... "

<------- !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


November 15th, 2004 02:35 PM
Nellcote Joey, The Stones & The Who better lie low in '05, as next year will be the U2 Juggernaut!
Actually, it will start right after MNF next week when the Pats visit Arrowhead for the weekly beating...

November 15th, 2004 02:39 PM
jb
quote:
Nellcote wrote:
Joey, The Stones & The Who better lie low in '05, as next year will be the U2 Juggernaut!
Actually, it will start right after MNF next week when the Pats visit Arrowhead for the weekly beating...



Correct znellcote..U2 will break all existing tour recoirds as the rock world is in need of anything, even the evil U2.

P.S.-Manning shall shatter Danny's 48 TD pass record and Farve shall break his all time TD record next year..things suck down herein Miami.............
November 15th, 2004 02:39 PM
Monkey Woman
quote:
Nellcote wrote:
Joey, The Stones & The Who better lie low in '05, as next year will be the U2 Juggernaut!



And the after that, with luck, we'll have the Jaggernaut!
November 15th, 2004 02:41 PM
Joey
quote:
Nellcote wrote:
Joey, The Stones & The Who better lie low in '05, as next year will be the U2 Juggernaut!
Actually, it will start right after MNF next week when the Pats visit Arrowhead for the weekly beating...





Nellcote .................................

Two Things !

1. ) Chiefs suck " Big Time " . Word !

2. ) U2 WORSHIPS THE WHO and will stay out of " The Petey's " way at ALL COSTS !!!

BEST STONES YET !

BEST WHO YET !!!!

BEST MACCA YET !!!

Ok , BEST U2 YET !!!!



...............in that order Ronnie !


Cassie & Yates ! �
November 15th, 2004 06:22 PM
corgi37 Remember the times when the Stones would back away from no challenger? Beatles, L.A. sound, punk, Guns and roses.

The end is nigh.
November 15th, 2004 06:24 PM
Soldatti Sad Corgi but almost true...
November 15th, 2004 08:23 PM
Mr. D Hey, that haven't backed down yet, have faith in the Stones. I like U2, but I think that if they went head-to-head with the Stones tour wise, the Stones would gross more cash.

And yes, Marino's days of having two precious records are almost up. Sooner or later, the guy will have NO records and NO SuperBowl rings. Some things just work out bad for guys, don't they?
November 15th, 2004 09:15 PM
Gazza
quote:
jb wrote:
No real Stones fans will attend these concerts....If you chose to go, please disavow yourself as a Stones fan and cease posting on any Stones forum....



the Stones are U2 fans. I doubt Mick, Keith and Ronnie would have worked with them if they didnt admire them in some way.

Enjoy your Stones show in Florida with just Charlie present, Josh!

Oh wait - you dont like the Stones anymore, anyway. I forgot for a second.
November 15th, 2004 09:47 PM
corgi37 Mr.D, i used to think that. Right up until Licks. I dont know the figures (mods?? any help?), but i'd be interested to know what the attendances were for Elevation vs Licks. Or, more to the point, the average. Licks had more stadium shows, didnt it?

Also, i doubt very, very much the Stones would out-gross U2 on a completely fair tour basis. The STones charge much higher, dont they?

I wonder who would sell the most at (say) Madison Square? Say, same price, unlimited availability. Maybe Stones could squeeze 5. U2 - maybe 10.

By the time the next Stones tour hits, how many more of their die-hard "must see them at any cost" fans will be dead (both brain and body!! hahaa), retired (hence, cant afford $400 tickets), not caring anymore (Aww, shit, not Brown Sugar again!)??

And, lets face reality, without a new release since 97, there are not as many new, young fans as we like to think. Certainly, not as many as the 25 year old band known as U2.

But, i am not totally negative. As long as there is breath in their bodies, i know the Stones will give 100% in a live situation.

Trouble is, is their 100% enough? How bad can Keith's fingers get? Ronnie off the wagon? More and more Blondie and Chuck? I said it before, and i'll say it again. If the Stones do the smaller shows, they can bloody well ditch the side-kicks for those shows, and just revert to the R&B stylings they play so well. Just a 5 piece. Alas, Chuck would be needed, but there is NO excuse for 3 back up singers and all the other crap.

Ideally, just the old fellas.
November 16th, 2004 04:58 AM
Honky Tonk Man
quote:
corgi37 wrote:

And, lets face reality, without a new release since 97, there are not as many new, young fans as we like to think. Certainly, not as many as the 25 year old band known as U2.





Any younger Stones fan I know will certainly not be running to buy a new Stones studio album. All the fans I used to bump into, don't appreciate anything beyond Exile.

The Stones are gaining fans all the time, anyone I know who plays guitar or is into Rock or Indie music, appreciates the young Stones, Brian era especially.

Most credible people (say, under 25) who I know would scoff at the idea at getting the new U2 album. Bono is a pretentious twat and the band is just not cool. Now, they wouldn't BUY the new Stones record either, but they would see them live.

Alex
November 16th, 2004 05:30 AM
Gazza
quote:
corgi37 wrote:
Mr.D, i used to think that. Right up until Licks. I dont know the figures (mods?? any help?), but i'd be interested to know what the attendances were for Elevation vs Licks. Or, more to the point, the average. Licks had more stadium shows, didnt it?

Also, i doubt very, very much the Stones would out-gross U2 on a completely fair tour basis. The STones charge much higher, dont they?




any year in which the Stones have done a full tour, they have been the biggest grossing act that year. In 1999 and 2002 they outgrossed Springsteen despite playing significantly fewer shows - however they charged significantly higher prices (Springsteen's ticket price for 2002 was $75..in 1999/2000 I think it was about $50 with something like $67 for the front ten rows). I think 2003 saw Springsteen gross more in the US - but the Stones were only in North America for a month whereas Bruce did a few arena shows in the spring and a stadium tour in the summer.

For U2, as far as I can recall U2's "Elevation" tour in 2001 consisted mostly of arenas in the US but was a stadium tour in Europe and elsewhere. It was the first time they had a "golden circle" style ticket for the pit area around the mini stage, but I think the price of that ticket was around $115, with ordinary tickets being around $70 or so. The Stones were charging $350 for top priced public sale tickets. I cant recall what the average price was for the last US tour, but I think it was around $140-150. The average price of tickets on the '99 No Security tour - the first tour where they jacked up the prices for EVERY show (as opposed to a few trial runs in 1998) was $109.

I still think that if the Stones and U2 went head to head with the exact same ticket prices that the Stones would outsell U2 every time in most (but not all) markets around the world, and certainly in the US. They can still probably just about do it even WITH higher ticket prices !
November 16th, 2004 05:34 AM
Gazza
quote:
Honky Tonk Man wrote:



Any younger Stones fan I know will certainly not be running to buy a new Stones studio album. All the fans I used to bump into, don't appreciate anything beyond Exile.

The Stones are gaining fans all the time, anyone I know who plays guitar or is into Rock or Indie music, appreciates the young Stones, Brian era especially.

Most credible people (say, under 25) who I know would scoff at the idea at getting the new U2 album. Bono is a pretentious twat and the band is just not cool. Now, they wouldn't BUY the new Stones record either, but they would see them live.

Alex




youre absolutely right on how the Stones are seen (in our country anyway) by that group of people - well the ones who are into music anywa. However, the problem with your last point is that although those fans would want to see them live, they cant afford to and generally wont pay that amount of money to do so. The concept and logic of paying �150 to see a live band is lost on an entire generation of people - and rightly so.
November 16th, 2004 07:25 AM
nankerphelge If the Stones are facing stiff competition for our tour dollars from other bands like U2, it seems to me that it would force the boys to put out a more Stonesy release to get everyone's attention.

No question that a lot if not most people want the warhorses, but when it has been fed to you as a "tour theme" for 3 years now with 40 Licks, the Licks tour, 4 Flicks and now Live Licks, why pay big bucks for more of the same?

By relying on their back catalog now, I think they are forced to produce something better!
November 16th, 2004 07:33 AM
egon JB's midlife crisis is starting to worry me.
November 16th, 2004 09:32 AM
Joey
quote:
egon wrote:
JB's midlife crisis is starting to worry me.



Egon...................................


You Drunk Yet ?!?!


www.interference.com

Seed of Joey ! �
November 16th, 2004 10:37 AM
F505 Joey your midlife crisis is about to start
November 16th, 2004 10:51 AM
erikjjf
quote:
Gazza wrote:
For U2, as far as I can recall U2's "Elevation" tour in 2001 consisted mostly of arenas in the US but was a stadium tour in Europe and elsewhere.


Actually, their Elevation tour consisted of only arenas in North America AND Europe, with the only exceptions being Turin and Dublin.
November 16th, 2004 10:53 AM
Joey
quote:
F505 wrote:
Joey your midlife crisis is about to start



F505 .............................


Seriously , today is Tuesday , November 16th and I really , REALLY need to know what plans you have for this week and next .

Please ...............I's justs gots to's knows .

" Stones Rule You Bastards ! "


Seed of Joey ! �

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Weedy ! �





[Edited by Joey]
November 16th, 2004 10:58 AM
Gazza
quote:
erikjjf wrote:


Actually, their Elevation tour consisted of only arenas in North America AND Europe, with the only exceptions being Turin and Dublin.



cheers. As I missed that tour and the only shows I was familiar with in Europe was Slane Castle in Ireland (where they played two shows, selling 160,000 tickets in a couple of hours) I assumed they did other outdoor events too.
November 16th, 2004 11:08 AM
Factory Girl Alex,

Don't you agree that the Libertines have more talent & fire than the U2??

U2=YAWN.
November 16th, 2004 11:26 AM
Honky Tonk Man
quote:
Factory Girl wrote:
Alex,

Don't you agree that the Libertines have more talent & fire than the U2??

U2=YAWN.



YES I DO!

But, there has been more bad news!

------------------------------------------------------------

Carl Barat - Looking to the future
Libertines Extras








NO MORE TIME FOR HEROES?




CARL BARAT plans to split THE LIBERTINES at the end of the year if PETE DOHERTY doesn�t clean up and rejoin the band.

The star is currently working on plans for what he�d do if Doherty is either too unwell or unwilling to rejoin The Libertines this year. The group aren�t planning any more tours or studio time beyond December, putting the band on ice for the "foreseeable future". Band sources have told NME.COM the decision is tantamount to splitting The Libertines, but with Carl leaving the door open for a reunion if Pete is ever well enough.

Speaking last week, Carl told NME.COM that he�s working on new songs, has a new found confidence and is considering either going solo or rehearsing musicians for a new group next year. It�s likely that any new band would feature some members of The Libertines.

Carl told NME: "As of the end of December Gary, John and I have decided The Libertines will be off the road for the foreseeable future, no more official gigs are booked. An ongoing problem with my health, which requires an operation, will put me out of action for maybe some months. My position with Pete hasn�t changed, I hope he gets better, I still love him and hope he will come back in full health and take the world with The Libertines and put the Albion back on-course. Joining the old crew on the good ship wouldn�t be so hard."

He continued: "I'm gonna have to do something different for a bit. I've got a lot of songs written, I don't know if that means getting a splendid top-hole band together or just going off and recording [them]. So I�m going to go and do that for a bit.

"I do put a rather stoic brave face on which is hard to maintain sometimes. I don�t always believe that�s how I feel behind it. But right now I feel like I�ve got more focus about what I do in the future than ever before. And I�ve found confidence and faith in my writing. So I feel a bit more positive."

Carl said that he still hopes more than anything for a reunion with a fit and healthy Pete, but he can�t see it happening in the immediate future. He told NME.COM: "My heart, of course, is with The Libertines. In its original line-up� To be honest, I�ve not been that close to what�s going on (The Libertines have been touring the US). The pictures [of Pete] sadden me. I don�t feel he�s well at the moment.

"I don�t know if [The Libertines will] ever be quite the same but I don�t see why they�d be any less valid or why we�d have any less purpose or conviction or relevance if we did get back together. Of course I�d love to. But I�m not going to rest on my laurels waiting for Pete to decide if he�s going to stop taking drugs... I�ve got things that I need to get out my system in song right now and I�ve got some other work to do."

Barat has to have an operation at the end of the year which will stop him playing live for a number of months. No more shows will be scheduled in the UK before December, meaning the last time the band played live with Pete was on the opening night of Carl�s London club Dirty Pretty Things before Doherty flew to Thailand for rehab in the summer. Their last UK show was at this year�s Carling Weekend: Reading and Leeds festivals in August.

However, the group have been touring North America without Pete, which came as something as a relief for Carl. At one show in Washington DC fans invaded the stage, similar to their legendary gig at the London Forum last year.

He added: "We were doing what we set out to do. It�s been a bit of a trailblazer really. In America there�s none of this press surrounding the band. People have just heard that there�s gonna be a good band in town and gone out and had a good time. We think we�ve done good. But obviously it�s still a bit tricky right now."

There are no plans to release a third single from �The Libertines�. However, Carl has been in the studio with the band Client, having co-written their new single �Pornography� which is released on January 10, 2005.

Alan McGee, manager of The Libertines said: "There are no limitations to Carl�s songwriting talent or musical adaptability. The most probable way forward under the current conditions of the Libertines will be to do many co write projects and various guest appearances.

�I have never known Carl more confident musically than he is at the moment. A great Carl Barat solo album or as yet unnamed band featuring current members of the Libertines awaits sometime in late 2005. To me 'Pornography' sounds like Carl and Client have written a great Cure type of single.

If there is going to be life after the Libertines, then Carl Barat's journey is certainly going to be an interesting one."



November 16th, 2004 12:28 PM
Lazy Bones On the point of "gross sales", it will be interesting to see (dare I say it?) how the Eagles do as they're charging $250 for top ticket!
November 16th, 2004 12:42 PM
Factory Girl Thanks, Alex! I don't think Pete will stop. Plus, he's into Babyshambles right now. Please post some Pete pix.

Also, what do you think of Babyshambles?

Btw, I was at that DC show where the fans jumped onstage.
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