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Topic: The Wild and Wycked World of Brian Jones Return to archive Page: 1 2
October 31st, 2004 06:16 PM
Back Street Girl James D. White will play Charlie in Brian Jones film.

October 31st, 2004 07:32 PM
stewed & Keefed http://www.brianjonesfanclub.com

Tuva Novotny to play Anna Wohlin.




Amelia Warner to play Janet Lawson




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October 31st, 2004 10:17 PM
glencar So this'll be an "indie" I'm guessing.
November 1st, 2004 01:15 AM
gypsy I can't wait to see this movie...I just hope that it doesn't make Brian out to be a total saint, like that damn Laura Jackson book. I do hope it shows him in a positive light, and stirs interest amongst a younger crowd, and displays Brian's musical abilities.

Monet Mazur is to play Anita. Someone posted that info and a photo here recently. And, remember, Monet's father was the one who came up with the Stones tongue logo? Interesting trivia, eh?
November 1st, 2004 04:26 AM
Zack Yeah, that Laura Jackson book was worthless, except for the photos of the Julians. They both look so much like Brian its scary.

I just looked it up to make sure we were thinking of the same one and laughed. The first edition of the book is subtitled the "Untold Life and Tragic Death of Brian Jones" and priced at 10 pounds 99. The second edition changed it to the "Mysterious Death" of Brian Jones, priced at 4 pounds 99!

I can't imagine this movie being any good, unfortunately. How can you do a Stones movie with no Stones music?

November 1st, 2004 06:31 PM
Back Street Girl
November 1st, 2004 06:35 PM
gypsy so they've already begun filming, back street girl?

i hate that american flag shirt. i think it's because brian looked so awful in those photos wearing it. he was so bloated and the bags underneath his eyes were awful...and his hair looked limp and greasy. he looked very bad in r&r circus and beyond...what a shame.
November 1st, 2004 07:20 PM
Bloozehound
quote:
Zack wrote:
I can't imagine this movie being any good, unfortunately. How can you do a Stones movie with no Stones music?




It's not even worth doing the film if they can't use those songs. It's ALL ABOUT the music when you get down to it.



November 1st, 2004 08:41 PM
Soldatti This movie will suck, no Stone music? WTF?
November 2nd, 2004 01:12 PM
stewed & Keefed
quote:
Soldatti wrote:
This movie will suck, no Stone music? WTF?



Surviving Stones Oppose Brian Jones Biopic
Thursday April 17, 2003 @ 03:00 PM
By: ChartAttack.com Staff


Rolling Stones

The Rolling Stones want their deceased former guitarist and founder of the Greatest Rock Band In The World to be left alone to rest in peace.

Brian Jones, born Lewis Brian Hopkin, was with the Rolling Stones from the beginning in 1962 until just before his death in June 1969. Jones was a multi-talented individual, who also happened to be really freakin� cool and undeniably hot .

Now though, The Rolling Stones are opposed to a new film about Jones because the filmmaker, Steve Woolley, is suggesting Jones� early death was the result of a murder rather than the accidental drowning that was blamed for the tragedy. Jones died on July 3, 1969 at the age of 27. He was found at the bottom of his swimming pool at his home in England.

The group is barring the use to their music in the film. Former manager Allan Klein, who holds all rights to the Stones� pre-1972 hits, has been instructed by the group not to grant Woolley permission to use the Stones� music.

Woolley says that the film will make police re-open the inquiry into Jones� death and bring about a new investigation. Singer Mick Jagger and guitarist Keith Richards of the Stones reportedly believe that if the film is released that Jagger and Richards will be blamed for Jones� drug addiction, which is a suspected leading cause to his death. Jagger and Richards fired Jones from the group in June 1969 because of his heroin and cocaine addictions.

Woolley�s past productions have included Backbeat, a film of the Beatles� early days performing in Germany.

�Marta Bialecki

November 2nd, 2004 06:45 PM
DJAsh Heroin and cocaine addictions ?

Prescription-drug addiction more like !
November 3rd, 2004 12:52 PM
stewed & Keefed FROM SHIDOOBEELAND


On the set of the Brian Jones film
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Me and Mr Jones

Will Hodgkinson went along to the set of a new film about the short, tragic life of Brian Jones - and found himself in it

Wednesday November 3, 2004
The Guardian

Stephen Woolley has spent the past 10 years preparing to direct a film about the short, glamorous and pathetic life of Brian Jones. Now he has decided that I have the right look to play the chauffeur of Andrew Loog Oldham, the original manager of Jones's band the Rolling Stones.

I'm on location for a 1963 scene at the filthy flat in Edith Grove, Chelsea, that Jones shared with Keith Richards, Mick Jagger and their friend James Phelge. Oldham is arriving to congratulate Jagger and Richards on their first songwriting effort, symbolically and physically pushing Jones to one side in the process. I came to interview Woolley and a few cast members about the film, but in a cost-cutting process that is no doubt common in the impoverished British film industry, Woolley's got me multi-tasking.

"His hair's too long for 1963!" point out the hair and makeup department. "Didn't you know that Andrew Loog Oldham hired an American driver in 1963 for the specific reason that he had long hair?" retorts Woolley. "He didn't care whether the guy could drive or not. It was the hair he was interested in."

Andrew Loog Oldham did no such thing and Woolley almost definitely knows it, but it's the kind of thing that Oldham should have done, so my minor role is at least in keeping with the spirit of authenticity that the director is mining.

The Wild and Wycked World of Brian Jones has been something of an obsession for Woolley, who is fascinated by the 1960s: he produced Scandal, the story of the Profumo affair, and Backbeat, which dramatised the life of Stuart Sutcliffe, one of the original Beatles. Brian Jones was the original Byronic pop idol: an upper-middle-class rebel from Cheltenham who fathered two children by two women before he was out of his teens, with an ability to play any musical instrument within hours and an outrageous flamboyance. He was also a deeply insecure man, too weak to cope with the wild lifestyle he invented. At 27 he drowned in the swimming pool at AA Milne's former house in Sussex; it was either through excess of drink and drugs or at the hands of a disgruntled builder named Frank Thorogood. Whichever is true, the death has helped fuel the myth of Brian Jones that has been growing ever since that night on July 3 1969, three weeks after Jagger and Richards fired him from the band.

"In the early days, Brian was way ahead of the others," says Woolley, a long-haired bohemian in a brown leather coat and tinted glasses. "When Mick and Keith first saw Brian, he was doing a perfect rendition of Elmore James's Dust My Broom, and they were amazed. He was very much the leader when the band started. But as soon as Andrew Loog Oldham came along - and Andrew hated Brian - it was obvious that Brian was going to be pushed to one side."

When I'm not too busy getting into character for the crucial task of sticking my head out of the driver's window as the actor playing Loog Oldham gets out of the car, Woolley takes me on a tour of the Edith Grove flat. The room that Jagger, Richards and Phelge shared is tiny and shabby, with the three single beds leaving only enough space for a bar heater in the middle of the room. Across the landing is the room that Jones had all to himself. "He said that he needed it for all the girls he had," explains Woolley. "Brian, Keith and Mick would take every piece of furniture out that could be sold and use the money to buy instruments, and the last thing that got paid was the rent. They would come back late at night and James Phelge would be standing at the top of the stairs with his underpants on his head, pissing on them. It was all very Withnail and I."

The scenes at Edith Grove depict a time when the landscape of Britain was on the cusp of enormous change. As the fresh-faced, cheerily cocky actors playing the young Rolling Stones swap banter outside the grey, soot-encrusted house, you begin to see how much of a threat the Stones's long hair and arrogance must have been. In the early 1960s, life was not swinging for the vast majority of the population. The pubs were shut by 10.30pm, there was little money, and everyone dressed the same. Brian Jones emerged to symbolise a new gilded life in which drink and drugs, peacock fashions, casual sex and very late nights at private London clubs such as the Scotch of St James put up a huge barrier between the young elite and the rest of the country.

"When I grew up in Islington, there were five of us in one room. We weren't particularly poor; everyone on our street lived like that," says Woolley. "Most of Britain was in bed by 10 because there was nothing else to do. Unless you were very famous, very rich or had a very short miniskirt, you weren't getting into the Scotch of St James."

In a break between scenes, the actors playing Jones, Richards and Jagger bunk off for a pint and a game of pool in the local pub. Leo Gregory, in his blond wig and cuban-heeled boots, makes such a convincing Brian Jones that it it comes as something of a shock when he admits that he prefers hip-hop to the Rolling Stones.

"I only got cast about a week before shooting began and I had never even picked up a guitar," he says. "It's quite hard to play with the nonchalance of one of the great 60s guitarists when you don't even know how to hold the thing. Then you have the problem of portraying someone as contradictory as Brian Jones, who was very charming but also a bit of a shit: he called his first two sons Julian Mark and Mark Julian because he couldn't be bothered to think of different names for them. When you throw loads of drink and drugs into that equation, it doesn't make for a very stable personality."

At the heart of The Wild and Wycked World of Brian Jones is the ongoing mystery surrounding Jones's death, and the clash of two worlds it symbolised. Woolley bought the rights to three books that provide sinister answers: Paint It Black by Geoffrey Giuliano, Who Killed Christopher Robin by Terry Rawlings and The Murder of Brian Jones by Anna Wohlin, his then-girlfriend who was at the Sussex house at the time of the death.

The builder, Frank Thorogood, was a former paratrooper from north London hired to carry out renovations on Jones's house. Woolley compares Jones and Thorogood to the roles that Mick Jagger and James Fox play in Nicholas Roeg's 1970 film Performance: a washed-up, decadent and reclusive pop star sharing his home with a tough, working-class traditionalist. "This guy would have had no idea of how to behave around Brian Jones," says Woolley. "Even people of his own ilk didn't know how to behave around Brian Jones, let alone someone used to telling blokes to build a wall. But he was spending every evening getting drunk with and becoming a butler to a weird little blond version of Oscar Wilde."

Woolley isn't saying, but it seems likely that the film will finger Thorogood as Jones's killer. Terry Rawlings goes one further and links the murder to the Rolling Stones's brief flirtation with the London underworld. But Thorogood and Anna Wohlin were not the only people present on July 3 1969.

Janet Lawson, a nurse from London and Thorogood's girlfriend, was also there. She has never been quoted in any of the books about Brian Jones and, even after the case was reopened following Thorogood's death in 1993, she was never tracked down. The police assumed she was dead; in fact she simply changed her name to distance herself from the entire affair. Woolley hired a private detective to find her. She agreed to talk.

"For years I was worried about the ending," says Woolley, once he has exhausted my limited acting skills. "There were too many questions left unanswered. But Janet Lawson turned out to be my ace in the hole. From what she told me about what happened that night, I have my ending." So what did she say?

"She said loads of things, and they're all in the movie. But you will have to see it to find out."
November 3rd, 2004 12:57 PM
stewed & Keefed
quote:
DJAsh wrote:
Heroin and cocaine addictions ?

Prescription-drug addiction more like !



Yeah your right, I can't remember hearing or reading about Brian being a heroin addict.
November 3rd, 2004 05:59 PM
Monkey Woman
quote:
Stephen Woolley has spent the past 10 years preparing to direct a film about the short, glamorous and pathetic life of Brian Jones.

More like the pathetic moviemaking of Stephen Woolley... Just a few notes below about the complete ass he's going to make of this story.

quote:
I'm on location for a 1963 scene at the filthy flat in Edith Grove, Chelsea, that Jones shared with Keith Richards, Mick Jagger and their friend James Phelge. Oldham is arriving to congratulate Jagger and Richards on their first songwriting effort, symbolically and physically pushing Jones to one side in the process.

*groan*
And we're only at the article's 2nd paragraph... FYI, Woolley, Mick & Keith wrote their first songs together AFTER they left the Edith Grove flat. It was the end of 1963 and they shared a flat in Mapesbury Avenue with ALO but NOT with Brian.

quote:
my minor role is at least in keeping with the spirit of authenticity that the director is mining.

Yeah, right. I suppose this is what they call "Woolley" thinking...

quote:
At 27 he drowned in the swimming pool at AA Milne's former house in Sussex; it was either through excess of drink and drugs or at the hands of a disgruntled builder named Frank Thorogood.

More confusion here. The official version is not an overdose but going to sleep in a warm pool and drowning.

quote:
But as soon as Andrew Loog Oldham came along - and Andrew hated Brian - it was obvious that Brian was going to be pushed to one side."

Huh? Oldham didn't "hate" Brian. He found him less easy to manage than Mick and Keith, so didn't try to work with him. And Brian was already distancing himself. When the band had a little more money and could afford leaving Edith Grove, Brian went to live with one his girlfriends and Mick and Keith shared a flat by themselves. Later Andrew crashed in and began spending more and more time with them.

quote:
"I only got cast about a week before shooting began and I had never even picked up a guitar," he says. "It's quite hard to play with the nonchalance of one of the great 60s guitarists when you don't even know how to hold the thing.

ROTFLMAO! That's the way to make a really believable film! The poor guy should at least have been given air guitar lessons!
November 3rd, 2004 07:45 PM
gypsy definitely a straight-to-video film
November 3rd, 2004 07:52 PM
Mr. D My goal is to someday make a Stones movie that features Stones music. I'd have it begin with the formation of the band, and end it with the boys hitting number one with "Satisfaction". This way it shows everyone young and on top. I would also make the movie a nice look at the whole Swinging London scene, with actors playing different musicians/famous people of the time.
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November 3rd, 2004 08:26 PM
iluvmickjagger07
quote:
Mr. D wrote:
My goal is to someday make a Stones movie that features Stones music. I'd have it begin with the formation of the band, and end it with the boys hitting number one with "Satisfaction". This way it shows everyone young and on top. I would also make the movie a nice look at the whole Swinging London scene, with actors playing different musicians/famous people of the time.
[Edited by Mr. D]


ill be sure to watch it once you make it
November 3rd, 2004 08:53 PM
gypsy I plan on making the same thing, Mr. D--but only a porn version...with horrid re-mixes of Stones classics. I think the audience would really go for a pornographic version...that's what they all want anyway. Of course there will be a Howe-type scene...I just haven't made up my mind if it's going to be Brian/Mick, Mick/Andrew or all three. I might even have the Keith character come out of the closet for one scene.
November 3rd, 2004 09:00 PM
JOHNNYSTONED let them make the movie and stir up interest in brian. he should not be forgotten.
November 3rd, 2004 09:46 PM
Mr. D
quote:
gypsy wrote:
I plan on making the same thing, Mr. D--but only a porn version...with horrid re-mixes of Stones classics. I think the audience would really go for a pornographic version...that's what they all want anyway. Of course there will be a Howe-type scene...I just haven't made up my mind if it's going to be Brian/Mick, Mick/Andrew or all three. I might even have the Keith character come out of the closet for one scene.



Sounds like a plan to me....and this can actually be done now. There's already a few bad remixes of Stones songs, now we just get a few more and find some people to act (ahem) in the movie.
November 3rd, 2004 09:53 PM
gypsy We simply cast a few slots as Anita, Marianne, Suki, et al. Add that cheesy "Boom Chick-A-Bow-Bow" porn music to the Stones songs--and Bam! We've got a box-office smash hit!
November 3rd, 2004 09:54 PM
Taptrick

This kid should play young Mick Jagger:

November 3rd, 2004 09:59 PM
Mr. D
quote:
gypsy wrote:
We simply cast a few slots as Anita, Marianne, Suki, et al. Add that cheesy "Boom Chick-A-Bow-Bow" porn music to the Stones songs--and Bam! We've got a box-office smash hit!



Finding a few random slots shouldn't be too hard to find. It can happen...oh it can happen.

The Clark Kent guy does have a "Jagger-look" to him....but can he rooster? Can he dance and pout the lips? If he can, let's sign him on.

November 3rd, 2004 10:01 PM
Taptrick

I thnk he does have the Jagger look - when he grows the hair longer he even resembles Mick more. Can't find a longer hair pick:

November 4th, 2004 02:02 PM
stewed & Keefed Anybody know who's playing Mick ?
November 5th, 2004 01:22 PM
stewed & Keefed
November 6th, 2004 10:26 PM
stewed & Keefed http://www.brianjonesfanclub.com

David Morrissey to play Tom Keylock.







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November 6th, 2004 11:48 PM
KeithRichardsgrl i still wanna see it
November 8th, 2004 02:44 PM
stewed & Keefed Will Adamsdale to play Andrew Loog Oldham.

November 8th, 2004 02:54 PM
Monkey Woman Another thing about the cast: they are rehashing the story that the artist Ruby Mazur, the father of Monet Mazur, designed the Stones lip-and-tongue logo. He did use a version of the logo for the cover of the "Tumbling Dice" single in 1972, but the original logo was the work of one John Pasche, hired by the Stones to design a logo that went on the cover of the "Brown Sugar" single and the Sticky Fingers album in 1971. The Stones confirmed this in their book last year. They wanted at the time something to give them a sort of corporate identity when they parted with Allen Klein and started their own business.
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