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pdog wrote:


"Pdog is a committed secular progressive who embraces San Francisco values. Those are: a massive federal government that dispenses entitlements paid for primarily by affluent Americans. That is called income redistribution, or the shorthand: "tax the rich." San Francisco values also seek to exclude spirituality from the public square but embrace displays like the Bay City's gay pride parade, where Christianity is often mocked and demeaned.

Now, I'm not saying Pdog is on board with that, but I am saying his city wants to ban military recruiting while setting up city-wide pot shops, and that San Francisco is now perhaps the most far-left city the United States has ever seen."

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Fiji Joe wrote:


But would take issue with someone who did take issue?

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Fiji Joe wrote:


Marking you down in the "yes" column

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jb wrote:
What about Dennis Hasterts' values being third in line from Presidency? Allegely covering up a predator for political survival..I'll take my chances with the very sexy 66 yr old Pelosi.

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Fiji Joe wrote:


But would take issue with someone who did take issue?

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WJ wrote:


Take issue in what way? By yanking your kid out of his class? By trying to have him fired?

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Fiji Joe wrote:


Sure...either option...or lesser options that you do not want to contemplate and that do not fit your store bought platitudes

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WJ wrote:

For what reason? Do you think he's going to turn your son gay?

I could understand if the teacher was black; I wouldn't want my kid to start listening to rap and stealing cars.

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pdog wrote:
The House Of Reps shall now be called, from this day forth:
The Home Of The Nancy Boys!

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Fiji Joe wrote:


We're not talking about me...I'm just making a point

We're talking about the notion that one can accept homosexuality but apparently, one cannot deal with it on a level that is closer to tolerance, and not acceptance...there is a difference

What other lifestyles and life choices must I "accept"?...and who the hell gets to make up the parameters on these issues?

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pdog wrote:

I deal with what i see as important, Education and everything that goes with it, especially Our countries seemingly shallow pockets regarding how to educate the next generation.

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Fiji Joe wrote:


Throwing money into education is not going to solve all the problems...it's not even going to solve most of the problems...unless that money is directed toward teacher salaries in the way of attracting brighter individuals and not just giving pay raises to the undergradute bottom feeders that comprise a large portion of public school educators today...there are a number of third-world countries whose students can out perform our students anyday...money, I don't think, is the issue

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Fiji Joe wrote:

What other lifestyles and life choices must I "accept"?...and who the hell gets to make up the parameters on these issues?

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pdog wrote:


Then gay is not the issue either. If you keep out qualified people b/c they're gay, you might end up with real idiots and people who actually are a threat to children! At least I know my childs teacher is open, and so I can trust them, b/c they are open about themselves, on all levels, not just sexuality. Peopelw ho are threats or just incompitent, they hide those flaws or dangers...
Throwing money around, as a Libertarian, I won't even listen to a Republican or Democrat complain about that. I'm about fiscal responsibilty in Govt. Which is why neither of those parties represent me!
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Jaxx wrote:
my issue with the same sex lifestyle validation, whether chosen or not (yeah, i believe there are folks that do choose, but certainly not all) is that sexuality is a private issue. i don't announce my heterosexuality in a gay bar and force the folks in there to deal with me and my date making out all over the place.

free to be, but i don't need to know if my kid's teacher, coach, scout leader is gay. if they are so be it, but don't broadcast it and don't take this opportunity to preach your lifestyle as an "alternative" lifestyle.

my children went with some friends to elitch gardens. no where posted outside did they say it was gay pride day. my kids and their friends and chaperone went in and were treated to queens, transvestites and same sex couples sleazing around flaunting their sexuality. when one of the bewildered 10 year olds stared at 2 men french kissing, she was greeted with, "what are you staring at honey?"

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Fiji Joe wrote:


Who said gay was the issue?...what you said is that you would not take issue with your son's teacher being gay....and implied statement of acceptance, or at the least, tolerance...and I asked if you would take issue with someone who would take issue with said "gayness"...My personal opinion is you have to respect both positions...this is not one of those issues where there should be a universal view.

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lotsajizz wrote:


Not YOU!!! And not the other right wing yahoos who make this Nation's Founding Fathers spin in their graves.

Special Prosecutor!! NOW!!!!

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jb wrote:
Gay people absolutely do not chose their life-style...that is a complete fallacy ..

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Fiji Joe wrote:


I disagree...I've known people who have chosen the lifestyle and then opted out...which is not to say that many aren't born that way...I suspect I've seen that too

What about bi-sexuals...are they born that way?

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WJ wrote:


What if I don't wish to accept a female or black teacher? Will you respect my position?

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jb wrote:

Why would anybody chose a life-style so universally attacked as homosexuality? No rationale person would subject him/herself to such a difficult lifestyle. As for bi-sexuals, they are still gay....

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