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This is an interview published yesterday in the Argentinean magazine "El Clar�n", I'm going to translate it, but you can make it on-line with ALtavista Translations it will not be a Shakespearean English but good enough to understand it! In fact, I'm going to post the translation via this way following this post.
THE ARTICLE IS ALREADY TRANSLATED BELOW AND THE ON-LINE TRANSLATION ELIMINATED
I know I'm going to work with the Stones
It makes me happy
"No soy ni adolescente ni eterno"
Hizo un documental sobre su vida. El 20 de noviembre sale su disco Goddess in the Doorway. Aqu�, habla del paso del tiempo, de pol�tica, de sus hijos y amigos y, claro, de sexo, drogas y rock and roll.
TOBIAS HOY. IFA y CLARIN.
Retrato cortito y al paso de la m�xima estrella de rock de la historia: el se�or Mick Jagger, 58 a�os, est� de muy buen humor y se r�e todo el tiempo. Lleva un conjunto muy a la moda de camisa azul oscuro y pantal�n negro. Se lo ve en muy buen estado y no hay una sola cana a la vista. As� es Mick Jagger en persona, octubre de 2001.
Antes de la entrevista, pude ver un documental en preparaci�n cuyo t�tulo provisorio es Being Mick Jagger (Ser Mick Jagger, una referencia clara a la pel�cula de Spike Jonze �Quieres ser John Malcovich?) Se estrenar�a el mismo d�a en que va a salir su nuevo �lbum solista Goddess in the doorway(Diosa en el umbral), es decir el 20 de noviembre.
En un anticipo de 20 minutos, se ve entre otras cosas, a Mick rodeado de millones de periodistas y fot�grafos, tocando la guitarra, cantando y grabando. Hay muchas secuencias de �l jugando con sus hijos en el estudio, en su casa, en vacaciones en una lancha y acompa�ado de su padre. Por supuesto, tambi�n se dan cita decenas de mujeres hermosas y su ex Jerry Hall que llega al estudio con los chicos. Luego aparece Mick Jager grabando y bromeando con Pete Townsend (el l�der de The Who); cenando y riendo con Bono (cantante de U2). Y hay una divertida secuencia con Lenny Kravitz en la casa/estudio de �ste: Lenny le acaba de dar a Mick un masaje, y acto seguido le dice que cocinar� algo para �l.
Despu�s hay una parte bastante larga que transcurre en una fiesta ambientada en el siglo XVIII en la casa de Elton John, hasta donde Jagger lleg� con su hija Elizabeth. Elton y Mick hablan de Madonna y se r�en. Y as� se pasa la pel�cula y la vida de este tipo cuya fortuna est� entre las mayores del espect�culo.
Es el quien introduce el d�alogo: "Mucho gusto, no nos conocemos, �o s�?", dice con amabilidad.
- Cuando decidiste hacer esta pel�cula, fue tu intenci�n mostrar tu intimidad, �quisiste decir ''ac� est� todo, no tengo nada que ocultar''?
- En realidad, es como una instant�nea de mi vida mientras hago este disco. Sigo pensando que hay cosas que ten�s que mantener privadas, pero hay muchas cosas sobre m� trabajando en el estudio, componiendo y con los chicos entrando y saliendo. Son s�lo seis meses de mi vida.
- En el filme dec�s que detest�s vivir en Inglaterra cada vez que el diario The Sun - se mete con tus divorcios y tus cosas, y parec�s muy afligido por eso. �Es �se el precio de ser...?
- El precio de ser ingl�s.
- �O el precio de ser Mick Jagger?
- Es el precio de ser una persona famosa en Inglaterra.
- De pronto, sos un hombre famoso rodeado de algunos hijos peque�os �C�mo es eso a los 58 a�os?
- Tuve mi primer hijo hace unos treinta a�os. Siempre he tenido hijos y no paro (se r�e con ganas). Lo disfruto. Es divertido, pero en este disco estuvieron mucho por ac�, mientras compon�a. Recuerdo que mi padre siempre cerraba la puerta con llave cuando trabajaba. Nunca me dejaban entrar, y a veces no ten�s m�s remedio que hacer eso. Pero trato de no hacerlo mucho porque es lindo ver a los chicos aporreando la bater�a, cantando y jugando.
- En estos ensayos filmados se te ve tan vital y movedizo como en el escenario. �Es simplemente tu forma de cantar?
- Bueno, as� es como soy en general (se r�e). Me sale poner emoci�n. Y cuando empez�s a emocionarte, el cuerpo se empieza a mover y a gesticular y a volverse loco, como me ocurre en el escenario. Porque creo que es muy importante. Le est�s hablando a alguien, eso es lo que siento.
- Ten�s una vitalidad y un estado f�sico sorprendente para tu edad. La gente te ve como el eterno adolescente. �Te sent�s as�?
- No soy ni adolescente ni eterno (se r�e). S�lo tengo mucho entusiasmo con respecto a mi trabajo y tengo amigos de todas las edades. Muchos amigos m�s viejos que yo, muchos amigos de mi edad y muchos amigos m�s j�venes. Tengo hijos chicos, hijos adolescentes e hijos m�s grandes. As� que simplemente me parece que tengo mucha energ�a para todos ellos. Disfruto de verdad.
- De modo que ese es tu secreto, te divert�s.
- Bueno, disfruto de mi vida, que es muy afortunada.
- �La canci�n nueva Don''t Call Me Up habla de tu tan publicitado divorcio con Jerry Hall?
- Le pod�s dar la interpretaci�n que m�s te guste, pero en realidad fue escrita antes de que toda la prensa empezara a hacer ruido sobre el tema. De hecho, es la canci�n m�s vieja. La escrib� a mitad de la �ltima gira de los Rolling Stones.
- Se te conoce por tu exquisito gusto en cuanto a mujeres. �Qui�n es "la diosa en el umbral" a la que hac�s referencia en el t�tulo del nuevo disco?
- Ella es como una caricatura espiritual de ficci�n. Es como la persona ideal, o la persona ideal sorprendente, no es una persona real.
- �Y c�mo es la mujer ideal para vos?
- �C�mo es? (se r�e) No creo que la diosa en el umbral que aparece en la canci�n sea la mujer ideal. En la mitolog�a griega, es como la sirena, es muy peligrosa, es muy bella, va y viene como se le antoja. La diosa en el umbral es provocativa y es muy dif�cil de encontrar cuando la quer�s ver. Es como la mujer ilusoria o el lado femenino ilusorio. A eso apunta en realidad la canci�n. Ella nunca es alcanzable. Siempre est� un poco fuera de tu alcance.
- �As�sos con las mujeres?
- Bueno, con esa clase de mujeres. Despu�s distingo las que est�n todo el tiempo ah�, al alcance de la mano, y nunca se van. Son todas distintas.
- �Qu� es lo mejor de ser Mick Jagger?
- Honestamente no lo s�. Hasta ahora, he tenido mucha suerte con las cosas. Pero no hay nada espec�fico que sea tan maravilloso en el hecho de ser yo, no lo creo. �Se te ocurre alguna cosa de tu vida que sea tan maravillosa? No lo creo.
- Abrirse paso con los Rolling Stones en los a�os sesenta, por ejemplo. �Ese fue el momento m�s emocionante de tu vida?
- No. Fue emocionante, es cierto, era muy joven. Pero no dir�a que �se es el gran momento y el resto un aburrimiento. Muchas cosas pasaron en esa �poca. Hab�a mucha creatividad, tanto en el arte como en la pol�tica. Siento que los 60 fueron un lapso bastante largo. Porque yo ten�a, y hab�a en general al principio, una ingenuidad que no se asocia con los 60. Un pensamiento pol�tico muy ingenuo. La gente, en alg�n sentido, era muy inocente cuando comenz� la d�cada y despu�s, a medida que avanzaba, con la guerra de Vietnam y todos esos asuntos, las cosas cambiaron. Se pusieron de moda las drogas, y en general las cosas se volvieron menos inocentes. Hubo muchos cambios en esa �poca. Dentro de esa d�cada hubo muchos acontecimientos diferentes que tuvieron lugar. Y si pens�s en los 80, por ejemplo, no se ven los matices tan claramente. Si observ�s la moda de los 80, ves un tipo de moda, mientras que los 60 ten�an muchos tipos y estadios diferentes en la moda, la pol�tica y las drogas. Cuando pens�s en los 80, pens�s solo en coca�na y hombreras.
- Siempre te interes� la pol�tica y ahora, con la tragedia de los Estados Unidos, el mundo ha perdido la inocencia definitivamente.
- El mundo nunca ha tenido inocencia, nunca despu�s del Jard�n del Ed�n.
- �No parec�s afectado por el horror que se ve en los Estados Unidos?
- Creo que esta entrevista es demasiado corta para hablar de eso, que es algo demasiado grande. No se puede dar una definici�n en un rengl�n de este tema. �No te parece?
- �Te sent�s con m�s libertad para innovar cuando trabaj�s solo que cuando grab�s con los Rolling Stones?
- S�, obviamente pod�s hacer m�s lo que quer�s cuando trabaj�s solo. Creo que los Stones son una banda ecl�ctica, esa es una de sus grandes virtudes, y yo tambi�n soy un compositor muy ecl�ctico. Los Stones no han tocado mucho pop �ltimamente y la gente olvida que lo hicimos por a�os. Entonces sent� que era el turno de retomar esa l�nea.
- Al hacer un �lbum solista, �No extra��s el contrapeso de Keith Richards?
- No mucho, trabajo con gente muy buena en este disco. Realmente no extra�o a nadie. S� que voy a volver a trabajar con los Stones, as� que estoy contento de hacer esto.
- �La din�mica entre vos y Keith sigue siendo tan fuerte como antes?
- Bueno, cuando funciona puede ser muy creativa, tanto en el estudio como en el escenario. A la gente parece gustarle y a m� me divierte, pero tambi�n necesito alejarme un poco de �l.
- Hay muchas estrellas invitadas en tu nuevo disco. �C�mo se te ocurri� traer a Bono, el cantante de U2?
- Bono y yo hace un tiempo que somos amigos, hemos cantado juntos en fiestas y cosas as�. Es muy sensible con respecto al mundo que lo rodea, muy sensible a los sentimientos de la gente desamparada. Tambi�n tiene un sentido m�stico muy fuerte y un gran sentido del humor.
- �Cu�l es a tu criterio el mejor concierto que los Stones dieron en su historia?
- Siempre me gust� el del Madison Square Garden de 1969... el de Leeds de 1982 estuvo bueno y fue fant�stico el de Chicago en 1998.
- �Hay alguno de los �lbumes de los Stones que atesores en particular?
- No, en realidad no los escucho. Tengo todas las canciones en la cabeza, y no recuerdo cu�l pertenece a qu� �lbum. Pero quiz� alg�n d�a deber�a sentarme y revisar los discos (riendo), y ponerles estrellas.
- �Pod�s elegir tus tres canciones preferidas de los Stones?
- Ser�a dif�cil. Tenemos un chiste interno en el grupo. Lo gracioso es que a veces Charlie (Watts, el baterista) quiere que yo cante el primer verso de alguna de todas la canciones que hemos grabado y en general, hasta ahora, puedo hacerlo.
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Here is a portion translated in to a better English, since I am making the translation in spare time here in the office over-writting the previous article, you will see an "accent on it" but it is clear enough, enjoy it. I'm translating the second part and it will be ready in some minutes.
"I am neither teenager nor eternal " Mick Jagger did a documentary about his life. On November 20 he will release �"Goddess in the Doorway", his new album. Here, he speaks of the his children, politics, friends and, sure of sex, drug and rock and roll.
Mr. Mick Jagger, 58 years, is in good mood laughing all the time. Dressing a blue jacket and black trousers. He's seen in a very good state of mind and there is not a single grey hair at sight. Thus he is Mick Jagger in person, October of 2001.
Before the interview, I watched a documentary (in preparation) whose provisory title is Being Mick Jagger , (similar to the film of Spike Jonze "Do you want to be John Malcovich?"). The filem will be released the same day of the album on November 20, 2001.
In the 20 minutes I watched, among other things, Mick surrounded by million journalists and photographers, playing the guitar, singing and recording. There are many sequences of him playing with his children in the study, its house, vacations in a boat and accompanied by his father. Of course, also tens of beautiful women and their ex- Jerry occur to appointment Hall that arrives at the study with the boys. Soon Mick appears recording and joking with Pete Townsend; having supper and laughing with Bono and there is one funny sequence with Lenny Kravitz in his home/studio. Lenny gives Mick a massage, and immediately afterwards he says to him that he will cook something for him.
Later there is a quite long portion of the video in the house of Elton John, to where Jagger arrived with his daughter Elizabeth to a "XVIII Century party". Elton and Mick speak of Madonna laughing. And thus one goes the film and the life of this guy whose fortune is in between the biggest of the show-business.
It is him who introduces the interview: "My pleasure, have we met before? ", he says friendly.
- When you decided to make this film, it was your intention to show your privacy, you meant "this is everything here, I do not have anything to hide"?
- In fact, it is like a snapshot of my life while I make the album. I continue thinking that there are things that you have that you want to maintain private, but are many things on me working in the study, composing and with the boys entering and leaving. They are only six months of my life.
- In the film you say that you hate to live in England whenever the newspaper The Sun - talk about divorces and your things, and seems that you are very afflicted for that reason. Is that the price of being what...?
- the price of being English.
- Or the price of being Mick Jagger?
- It is the price of being a famous person in England.
- Suddenly, you're a famous man surrounded by small children How is that at your age, 58 years old?
- I had my first daughter about thirty years. I have always had children and can't stop anymore (he laughs out loud). I enjoy them. It is funny, in the making of the album they were involved must of the time while I was writing the songs. I do remember that my father always locked the door when he worked,. he never let me enter, and sometimes you don't have other option than that. But I like to do that because is nice to see the boys pounding the drums, singing and playing.
- In the film you look so vital and moving as in the scene. Is it simply the way you sing always?
- Good, thus it is as I am in general (laughs). It leaves to me to put emotion. And when you start to get in the mood, the body begins to move and to gesture and to become crazy, the same way it happens to me on stage. Because I believe that it is very important. You are speaking to somebody, for me it is what I feel.
- You have an amizing vitality and a surprising physical state for your age. People see you like the eternal teenager. Do you feel that way?
- I am neither adolescent nor eternal (laughs). I have much enthusiasm with respect to my work and I have friends of all the ages. Many friends older than I, many friends of my age and many younger. I have small children, teenager children and older children. So simply it seems to me that I have much energy for all of them. I really enjoy.
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Here is the second and last part
- So that that is your secret, you do it for fun?.
- Good, I enjoy my life, I'm a lucky guy.
- The new song "Don't Call Up" talks about your well known (over published) divorce with Jerry Hall?
- You can give the interpretation Him that you want, but in fact was written before all the press began to make noise on the subject. In fact, it is the oldest song. I wrote it in the middle of the last Rolling Stones tour.
- It is well known that you have an exquisite taste for women. Who is the "Goddess in the Doorway " to which you make reference in the title of the new disc?
- It is like a spiritual fiction cartoon. She is like the ideal person, or the surprising ideal person, is not a real person.
- and how is the ideal woman for you?
- How she is? (laughs) I do not believe that the "Goddess in the Doorway" that appears in the song is the ideal woman. In Greek mythology, it is like the siren, she is very dangerous, she is very beautiful, and she comes and goes at her own convenience. The "Goddess in the Doorway" is provocative and is very difficult to find when you want to see her. It is like the false woman or the false feminine side. That what the song means. She's never attainable. She is always a little outside your reach.
- Is that you way with women?
- Well, with that class of women. Later I distinguish those that are all along there, within reach, and they never go away. They are all different.
- What is the best thing of Being Mick Jagger?
- Honestly I do not know it. Until now, I have had much luck with the things. But there is nothing specific that is so wonderful in the fact of being myself, I do not believe it. Is happened to you some thing of your life that is so wonderful than being yourself? I do not believe it.
- To break through with the Rolling Stones in the Sixties, for example. Was that the most exciting moment of your life?
- No. It was exciting, of course, I was very young. But it would not say that that one is the greatest moment and the rest just a boredom. Many things happened at that time. There was much creativity, in the arts as well as in the politics. I feel that the 60s were a quite long lapse. Because I had, and the society had in the beginning in general, innocence that is not associated with the 60s. Very ingenuous political thought. People, in some sense, were very innocent when the decade and, as it advanced, with the war of Vietnam began later and all those subjects, the things changed. The drugs were put fashionable, and in general the things became less innocent. There were many changes at that time. Within that decade there were many different events that took place. And if you think in the 80s, for example, the shades are not seen so clearly. If you see the fashion of the 80s, you see a fashionable type, whereas the 60s had many different types and stages in the fashion, the politics and drugs. When you think in the 80s, you think single in cocaine and shoulder reinforcements.
- Politics has been always interesting to you, and now, with the tragedy of the United States, the world has lost innocence definitively?
- the world never has had innocence, never after the Garden of the Ed�n.
- You don't look affected by the horror that is seen in the United States?
- I believe that this interview is too short to speak of that, which is something too big. A definition in a line of this subject cannot be given. It does not seem to you?
- When do you feel more freedom to innovate? When you work alone or when you work with the Rolling Stones?
- Yes, obvious you can make more what of what you want when you work alone. I believe that the Stones is an eclectic band, that is one of its great virtues, and I also am a very eclectic composer. The Stones has not touched much pop lately and people forget that we did it per years. Then I felt that it was the turn to retake that line.
- When doing a solo album, do you miss the counterbalance of Keith Richards?
- Not much, I worked with very good people in this disc. I really don't miss anybody. I know that I am going to return to work with the Stones, so I am happy to do this.
- Is the dynamics between you and Keith as strong as before?
- Good, when it works can be very creative, as much in the study as on stage. The people like it and to me it is funny, but it is necessary for me to move away from him.
- There are many stars as guests in your new album. How it was happened to you to bring to Bono?
- Bono and I are friends since a long-time, we have sung together in parties and things like this. He is very sensible person with respect to the world that surrounds him, very sensible to the feelings of the homeless people. Also he has a deep mystical sense and a great sense of humor.
- Which is for you the best concert than the Stones gave in their history?
- I Always liked the one of the Madison Square Garden of 1969... the one of Leeds of 1982 was good and was fantastic the one of Chicago in 1998.
- Is there any Stones Album that you treasure the most?
- No, in fact I do not listen to them. I have all the songs in my head, and don't remember which belongs to what album. But someday it would have to seat and to review my own album (laughing), and perhaps to put stars to them.
- Can you choose your three favorite songs of the Stones?
- It would be very difficult. We have an internal joke in the group. The graceful thing is that sometimes Charlie wants that I sing the first verse of some of all the songs that we have recorded and in general, until now, I can do it. |
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There's an addendum of the article you can see it in Sp�nish in the link above, it is just some comments but if I have time I will translate it on Wednesday as tomorrow I'm going to travel all day. |
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