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speedfreakjive wrote:
Is anyone out there of the opinion that Sticky Fingers is as good, if not better than Exile? The general concensus seems to be that Exile is better, but why? When you consider the overall quality and consistency of each song on SF, there's no filler like Shake Your Hips and Stop Breaking Down, and its recorded in better quality. And IMO there's more Stones classics on it (Bitch, Sway, Dead Flowers). Just cos its shorter, it don't mean its not as good. I'll probs get slated for this, but f**k it!

P.S, it contains The Stones' 2nd best tune, Brown Sugar

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winter wrote:
Bengar's Banquet is my favorite. Dear Doctor, Parachute Women, Jig Saw Puzzle, Factory Girl, No Expactions, Salt of the Earth, coupled with the War Horses Sympathy and Street Fighting Man (and the Semi-War Horse - Stray Cat Blues), to me it doesn't get any better than this.

If I had to rank the big 4, it would be as follows:

1. Beggar's
2. Exile
3. Sticky Fingers (although Moonlight Mile is one of my top 5 Stones songs)
4. Let it Bleed


While I'm at it, the top two songs that the Stones have never played live, but should are:

1. Winter
2. Dear Doctor

wintah

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pavlovs dog wrote:


A Contentious Question but an excellent one. No doubt Sticky Fingers is a masterpiece, a real gem and in my opinion a very close second to Exile. I think Exile is better because it is a more ambitious and more cohesive album. Even though the Stones themselves said each side was supposed to be listened to separately each of those 'sides' has a thematio or musical unity. While no individual song off of Exile can compare to Brown Sugar or Bitch the whole sweep of Exile is like a giant mural whereas Sticky Fingers is like a perfect portrait or still life. An experienced Exile listener knows from the 1st few notes of Rocks Off that a sweet journey is about to begin and when the the beginning riff of Soul Survivor announces that the journey is nearing an end a sense of passage, redemption and purification washes one's soul.

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speedfreakjive wrote:


Dear Doctor is good. Winter; what a vocal by Jagger. I reckon Winter's twin is Tops off Tattoo You. Aye, I wish they'd play Stray Cat more. Why the F**K don't Keith just play All About You or something? I'm not sure thats ever been played live?

I'd say Some Girls is better than Beggars tho, its at my no.5, joint with Bridges 2 Babylon, no,, only messin, joint with Goats Head Soup.

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pdog wrote:
Exile is the greatest creation in mankinds history. YES! It is better than the pyramids and philly cheesesteaks... It's great to explore space, Exile is a journey into your own soul.

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winter wrote:


All About You. LOVE THIS SONG! The last line always gets me. Absolutely beautiful. I dig GHS, but don't rank it with Some Girls or Beggar's. It's just personal preference. For the longest time, I swore by Exile, and then one day (actually when I bought the remasters), Beggar's just got me. Objectively speaking, Exile is an epic masterpiece, but for the past few years, I have been digging Beggar's more.

That is one of the many great things about this band, hell I listened to VL for the first time in years, and I really dug songs that I didn't dig before. Alway new nuggets to discover, or re-discover.

Some other never been played's that I'd like to hear live:

2000 Man
Sitting on a Fence
Coming Down Again
Mona
High N Dry

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pavlovs dog wrote:


If I understand you correctly!

greatest creation in mankind's history:

1. Exile On Main Street
2. The Ancient Pyramids of Egypt
3. Philly Cheesesteaks

I think you might have #2 & #3 backwards

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JuanTCB wrote:
The way I look at it, Sticky is the greatest "Mick" album and Exile is the best "Keith" album. I've never heard Mick sing better than he did on Sticky (he was at his most Mick-eriffic then, w/o resorting to self-parody) and no album in the history of mankind has the atmostphere that Exile does - vague, drawn out, stoned, drunk, smoky, nitty, gritty, murky, muddy, passionate . . .

That said, they're both masterpieces. Looking at it objectively, I'd say Sticky takes the prize. It's more consistently solid, the songs are better, and the production/sound is stunning. Also, it's the most self-assured album I've ever heard.

But screw objectivity - I'm a guitar player (started out on a tennis racket pretending I was Keith), Exile was released the day I was born, and the sunshine bores the daylight out of me.

"Keith" wins this one.

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texile wrote:
the myth that exile is all keith is blasphemous....
and what would all those great grooves be without those dark, cryptic and hypnotic voocals and lyrics?
exile, like some girls, is jagger's finest achievements.
i'd put some girls above beggars too....

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Neocon wrote:
They are both victories for both those albums. They had plenty to do with both.

Oh yea, my favoite Stones song of all time is "Rocks Off."

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speedfreakjive wrote:


Indeed, and look no further than Shine A Light for the finest Stones' sans Keith song.

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FPM C10 wrote:
Cool thread - don't know who said what, but "All About You" was played beautifully on the B2B tour. I really didn't like it much until I heard it live, and then I fell in love with it.

JuanTCB - you were actually born the day Exile was released? I have a friend in Cleveland who wants to adopt you.

"Stop Breaking Down" and "Hip Shake" are FILLER? Wha? They are ESSENTIAL. ESSENTIAL I SAY! The Stones covering Robert Johnson and Slim Harpo is NOT filler, especially in the context of Exile. I used to think "Just Wanna See His Face" and "Sweet Black Angel" were filler, but now I know - there is NO filler on Exile.


And whoever said Some Girls is better than Beggar's Banquet - you are TRIPPING.

Hey, it's 4:20 - smoke em if ya got em.
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