| October 15th, 2005 09:56 AM |
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| Ten Thousand Motels |
Beatles named 'icons of century'
BBC
The Beatles have beaten jazz star Louis Armstrong and TV actress Lucille Ball to be named icons of the century by readers of US magazine Variety.
It named the Liverpool band "the sole group who has most shaped the face of modern-day showbusiness".
The magazine ranked 100 iconic entertainment figures from the last 100 years, with industry figures drawing up a shortlist that readers voted on.
What a Wonderful World singer Armstrong came second, with Ball in third place.
Among the criteria for choosing "icons" were their commercial and creative impact, number of imitators, enduring appeal and whether they appeared on T-shirts.
ICONS OF THE CENTURY
1. The Beatles
2. Louis Armstrong
3. Lucille Ball
4. Humphrey Bogart
5. Marlon Brando
6. Charlie Chaplin
7. James Dean
8. Marilyn Monroe
9. Mickey Mouse
10. Elvis Presley
Source: Variety magazine
The list aimed to represent every side of showbusiness, including actors, directors, screenwriters, musicians, TV presenters, animals, comedians and even cartoon characters.
However, its top 10 was dominated by Hollywood and music stars.
Despite the constant popularity of the late singer's work, Elvis Presley appeared in 10th place, below Marilyn Monroe and Mickey Mouse.
Among other names on the list were US TV host Johnny Carson, singer Johnny Cash and canine star Lassie.
Variety conducted the poll to mark its 100th anniversary. It did not reveal how many votes were cast.
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| October 15th, 2005 12:11 PM |
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| gimmekeef |
Damn...we got beat by Lassie too!....The shame of it all!! |
| October 15th, 2005 01:28 PM |
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| the good |
The 20th century was a bust |
| October 15th, 2005 02:04 PM |
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| PeerQueer |
What an odd list.
If you are ranking 20th century iconic status, Elvis is #1. Period. It's not even close. |
| October 15th, 2005 02:58 PM |
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| kath |
well deserved imho...they changed EVERYTHING!!! |
| October 15th, 2005 04:30 PM |
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| Bruno Stone |
quote:
kath wrote:
well deserved imho...they changed EVERYTHING!!!
I agree. |
| October 15th, 2005 04:49 PM |
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| Steamboat Bill, Jr. |
Chaplin should be #1 imo. The image of the "Little Tramp" is just about one of the two or three most instantly recognizable images in the world.
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| October 15th, 2005 09:16 PM |
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| pavlovs dog |
The 'real' icons of the 20th century:
1. Adolf Hitler
2. Albert Einstein
3. Winston Churchill
4. Josef Stalin
5. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
6. Mao Tse Tung
7. Pope John Paul II
8. Mohandas Ghandi
9. Martin Luther King Jr.
10.Ronald Reagan |
| October 16th, 2005 09:01 AM |
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| egon |
just another list.
i for one, am going to put this one in my little crackpipe & smoke it |
| October 16th, 2005 11:26 AM |
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| Dick Bush |
By all respect for Ringo and Paul - you've got to be dead for being an icon...
I like the Chaplin very much though. |
| October 16th, 2005 10:54 PM |
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| Soldatti |
Another idiot list, Elvis must be #1. |
| October 17th, 2005 11:00 AM |
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| corgi37 |
Another Beatles thread???
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| October 17th, 2005 02:17 PM |
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| Scottfree |
quote:
pavlovs dog wrote:
The 'real' icons of the 20th century:
1. Adolf Hitler
2. Albert Einstein
3. Winston Churchill
4. Josef Stalin
5. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
6. Mao Tse Tung
7. Pope John Paul II
8. Mohandas Ghandi
9. Martin Luther King Jr.
10.Ronald Reagan
No Al Gore? He did invent the iddernet....
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| October 17th, 2005 03:01 PM |
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| Ten Thousand Motels |
Here's my 10.
1. Mick n' Keith (who else for chissakes?)
2. Hef
3. Keroac
4A. I'd say Bogey but he's already been named.
4B. Dylan
5. Jerry Garcia
6. Mary Pickford
7. Little Richard
8. John Wayne
9. Aleister Crowley
10. Grace Slick
No order really.
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| October 17th, 2005 04:15 PM |
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| Steamboat Bill, Jr. |
Chaplin Chaplin Chaplin
Chaplin's fame really is incomparable to anyone else. The Beatles and Elvis are famous, but Chaplin was known to everyone, and I do mean EVERYONE around the world. This is simply because he was a silent movie star. Silent movies were just about as close to a universal artform as one could get because there was no language barrier (you only had to change the title cards to the appropriate language, no dubbing or subtitles) or social/class barrier. Anyone and everyone could enjoy a silent film. Thus, stars such as Mary Pickford, Douglas Fairbanks, Harold Lloyd and others became for more internationally famous entertainers than anyone before or sense. And at the top of them all was Chaplin, whose image is just about the most famous image of an entertainer in the world.
(BTW, Gershwin should be in the top ten as well). |
| October 17th, 2005 04:41 PM |
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| pdog |
The people who make these lists need to be on a list of the dumbest fuckers and time wasters ever! |
| October 17th, 2005 04:44 PM |
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| Ten Thousand Motels |
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pdog wrote:
.... and time wasters ever!
Hell NO! That paltry honor must go to us internet Stones message board posters!
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| October 17th, 2005 04:56 PM |
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| gimmekeef |
Johnny "Wad" Holmes doesnt maker the list?..... |
| October 17th, 2005 04:56 PM |
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| pdog |
quote:
Ten Thousand Motels wrote:
Hell NO! That paltry honor must go to us internet Stones message board posters!
As much as I hated your generalization of punk rock. I can't argue this point! |
| October 17th, 2005 06:59 PM |
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| pavlovs dog |
quote:
Ten Thousand Motels wrote:
Here's my 10.
1. Mick n' Keith (who else for chissakes?)
2. Hef
3. Keroac
4A. I'd say Bogey but he's already been named.
4B. Dylan
5. Jerry Garcia
6. Mary Pickford
7. Little Richard
8. John Wayne
9. Aleister Crowley
10. Grace Slick
No order really.
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Aleister Crowley? The sick English author who wrote "Snowdrops from a curate's garden"?
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| October 17th, 2005 11:00 PM |
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| PeerQueer |
Elvis.
Period.
The Beatles further developed his schtick, with a Brit accent to boot - but Elvis was the Alpha and the Omega.
Yeah, he was heavily influenced by a mood and tone that was already established, but that fact went unheard for the most part by lil ol white kids until Elvis broke their cherries.
Elvis is #1.
It isn't even close.
And a 20th century icon list w/o Frank Sinatra???? WTF????
A joke of a list if ever there was one. |
| October 17th, 2005 11:36 PM |
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| Brainbell Jangler |
No, pavlov, I think he means the OTHER Aleister Crowley: the English occult genius and author of "Magick in Theory and Practice," "Little Essays Toward Truth" and other instructive works.
Do you say "Crowley"
To rhyme with "holy,"
Or is it "Crowley"
To rhyme with "foully"? |
| October 18th, 2005 12:28 AM |
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| speedfreakjive |
or is that, most un rock 'n' roll icons of the 20th century |
| October 18th, 2005 01:07 AM |
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| corgi37 |
I figured Sinatra and Crosby would be on the list. Maybe even Jolson. What about Dame Nellie Melba?
I agree John Holmes should be on there, and maybe even Ron Jeremy. But to leave off the trifecta of Tracey Lords and Ginger & Amber Lynn is unforgiveable. |
| October 18th, 2005 06:09 AM |
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| stonedinaustralia |
quote:
PeerQueer wrote:
What an odd list.
If you are ranking 20th century iconic status, Elvis is #1. Period. It's not even close.
agreed Peer - when your talking pop icons and entertainment figures it's a no-brainer
despite what lennon said elvis was the one who was (nad arguably remains)bigger then jesus
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| October 18th, 2005 06:13 AM |
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| stonedinaustralia |
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pavlovs dog wrote:
The 'real' icons of the 20th century:
1. Adolf Hitler
2. Albert Einstein
3. Winston Churchill
4. Josef Stalin
5. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
6. Mao Tse Tung
7. Pope John Paul II
8. Mohandas Ghandi
9. Martin Luther King Jr.
10.Ronald Reagan
interesting list pd with which i generaly agree
but forget reagan who, IMHO, merely took personal credit for an historical inevitability - mohammed ali easily takes his place
picasso also deserves a mention |
| October 18th, 2005 06:15 AM |
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| Ten Thousand Motels |
quote:
stonedinaustralia wrote:
despite what lennon said elvis was the one who was bigger then jesus
Yes. Elvis is a God...remember?
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| October 18th, 2005 07:04 AM |
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| stonedinaustralia |
quote:
Ten Thousand Motels wrote:
Yes. Elvis is a God...remember?
indeed, when archeologist 1,000 years from now are combing through the uncovered ruins of the 20th century (that is to say society as we know it) they will have no alternative but to conclude that this (elvis) was some kind of diety - tupelo is the new bethlehem |
| October 18th, 2005 07:40 AM |
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| egon |
i don't know what is more ridiculous:
the beatles being icons, or hitler being one... |
| October 18th, 2005 08:53 AM |
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| stonedinaustralia |
well, egon,who are your candidates?? |
