| 12th October 2006 09:56 PM |
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| Fiji Joe |
Look...I've read all this stuff..how he tanked in Chicago...tanked at Giants...that may be
But I saw him less than 2 weeks ago in Wichita and he looked and sounded good...he really seemed to be into the show...sure there were a couple of low points...some muffs here and there...but he started and finished strong and the boys as a whole put on a top notch show...perhaps it was the weather...it was very warm that day...but he was as good as he was during the Licks tour and he seemed to be very happy to be up there
Stroke?..hell nah...drunk?...probably...no doubt he sipped a bit before going out in the 30 degree weather last night...then again...he's damn near 70 and playing more gigs than most cats that are 20...My opinion...he's lost some...he's lost a lot...his skills are declining...no doubt...he has fingertips the size of golf balls...is their major touring over?...yes...I believe that
But Keith and the Stones have many years of entertaining left...limited gigs...good rest between shows...and a redidication to the studio...I see all of that in the final 5-8 years upcoming...Keith ain't dead...but the Stones shows you've become accustomed to are...I'll take whatever they want to give me...and like it...cause when it's gone...it's gone...and then what? |
| 12th October 2006 10:07 PM |
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| deuce |
It will definately feel strange when the Stones call it quits. But NO ONE can deny how much Keith's ability has gone downhill. Sure, you can chalk it up to age - but I don't know if I can fully accept that. I'm not saying he's gonna be playing at the same level he was 25 years ago, but look at Townshend - Look at Joe Perry from Aerosmith. They all still have their chops. Of course, they also don't have arthritis. It just saddens me to see Keith, the world's coolest Mother Fucker, on the decline.
He can't sing and play at the same time anymore (not that he was ever great at it, but still), he can't pump out those monster rhythms he used to be able to do, and I've noticed that every song has pretty much the same guitar solo. It pains me to say this stuff. It's just frusrating though. I mean, here's the guy who influenced me to pick up the guitar. I'm heavily influenced by his work, I learn his tunes, and I hear him play now and think "Come on man, I could have played that better!".
I'm a huge fan of the Stones, but I don't want to follow blindly. We are nearing the end folks. This will be the last major tour - and who knows, maybe it's for the better. I would love to see them take a year off, then go into the studio to record another album, then do a smaller tour behind it with scattered club dates.
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| 12th October 2006 10:08 PM |
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| Scottfree |
Best assesment yet, I don't know how he plays with them clubbed fingers to begin with... |
| 12th October 2006 10:15 PM |
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| Fiji Joe |
I think some Vegas shows...with Keith sitting...and not trying to be the old Keith...a situation that will allow him to concentrate on his playing...he'll do fine...There has to be a certain amount of boredom that enters the picture as well...the dude has been playing these same songs for many many years...by all accounts, She Was Hot rocked...might it be because Keith was into it?...being a first and all? |
| 12th October 2006 10:20 PM |
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| BILL PERKS |
I'M SAYING MY GOODBYES IN AC-IT WILL HURT |
| 12th October 2006 10:21 PM |
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| deuce |
It's hard to break down what the problem is. It's definately a combination of 3 factors...age, arthritis, and his many years of abuse. I'll add a 4th factor in there though...laziness. I think he's just too comfortable. If he messes up, he's got Chuck and Blondie backing him up. Not that he has anything to prove because the guy is a legend - but he knows he's a legend, so therefor I think he finds it acceptable sometimes to play the opening riff to a song and just stand there and pose and then give another strum a minute later. He's so wrapped up in his own character. I love Keith to death, but this is the truth.
I think in order for them to remain worthwhile, smaller venues is the way to go. Keith needs to actually concentrate on his playing |
| 12th October 2006 10:48 PM |
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| Fiji Joe |
quote:
deuce wrote:
It's hard to break down what the problem is. It's definately a combination of 3 factors...age, arthritis, and his many years of abuse. I'll add a 4th factor in there though...laziness. I think he's just too comfortable. If he messes up, he's got Chuck and Blondie backing him up. Not that he has anything to prove because the guy is a legend - but he knows he's a legend, so therefor I think he finds it acceptable sometimes to play the opening riff to a song and just stand there and pose and then give another strum a minute later. He's so wrapped up in his own character. I love Keith to death, but this is the truth.
I think in order for them to remain worthwhile, smaller venues is the way to go. Keith needs to actually concentrate on his playing
I agree with most of that...laziness...boredom...that factors in a bunch...too bad he doesn't have Mick's ego to drive him |
| 12th October 2006 11:05 PM |
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| Nellcote |
Keith Richards will never die. |
| 12th October 2006 11:30 PM |
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| mojoman |
quote:
Nellcote wrote:
Keith Richards will never die.
rock and roll can never die |
| 12th October 2006 11:54 PM |
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| Paranoid_Android |
Rocks Off Member
Posted 12th October 2006 08:53 AM Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
quote:Jumping Jack wrote:
I will wait to hear him inside at AC before passing final judgement, but your candid feedback is welcome.
As will I...though, I wish I hadn't read that part of your review...My friend Richie & I always have joked that we wanted to be at the show where Keith collapses on stage in a blaze of rock n roll glory...but this is nothing like what we would want to see happen, to Keith or any rock icon (Dylan, comes to mind). It was cold...and not having the luxury of being able to wear a parka w/ mittons...well...let's just call it being optimistic and rational on my part.
See you all in AC!!! |
| 13th October 2006 12:05 AM |
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| SweetVirginia |
Is there anyone on this board who can spell "definitely"?
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| 13th October 2006 12:13 AM |
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| MrPleasant |
quote:
SweetVirginia wrote:
Is there anyone on this board who can spell "definitely"?
[Edited by SweetVirginia]
"Definitely, definitely" |
| 13th October 2006 12:18 AM |
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| SweetVirginia |
10 minutes till Wapner
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| 13th October 2006 12:25 AM |
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| Fiji Joe |
quote:
SweetVirginia wrote:
Is there anyone on this board who can spell "definitely"?
[Edited by SweetVirginia]
LOL...it's one of those words...I know I'm misspelling it...I know how to spell it, but I still spell it wrong...it's kooky...definately |
| 13th October 2006 12:33 AM |
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| SweetVirginia |
It should be an SAT word. When I look on my kids' Live Journals I'm stunned by how many of them (a) use that word and (b) can not spell it.
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| 13th October 2006 12:41 AM |
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| Fiji Joe |
quote:
SweetVirginia wrote:
It should be an SAT word. When I look on my kids' Live Journals I'm stunned by how many of them (a) use that word and (b) can not spell it.
What level do you edumacate? |
| 13th October 2006 12:46 AM |
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| Egbert |
Forget about learning how to spell, we just need spellcheck on this board. |
| 13th October 2006 12:48 AM |
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| Bloozehound |
Sounds to me like he was just having a bad night probably due to all the cold, arthritus and shit...but next Sunday I'm gonna wing on over to zilker and jam with the Stones
I'll be scopen'm, I'll be sure to report any "foul play" |
| 13th October 2006 01:07 AM |
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| Brainbell Jangler |
I will be up close (sixth row center) in Seattle on Tuesday. I'll report back. |
| 13th October 2006 01:11 AM |
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| SweetVirginia |
quote:
Fiji Joe wrote:
What level do you edumacate?
Tell me you are NOT making fun of my Midwestern state school education???
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| 13th October 2006 01:18 AM |
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| Fiji Joe |
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SweetVirginia wrote:
Tell me you are NOT making fun of my Midwestern state school education???
No...someone has to go to those schools
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| 13th October 2006 01:34 AM |
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| Poplar |
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Bloozehound wrote:
Sounds to me like he was just having a bad night probably due to all the cold, arthritus and shit...but next Sunday I'm gonna wing on over to zilker and jam with the Stones
I'll be scopen'm, I'll be sure to report any "foul play"
Where ya been, Bloozy? Glad you're going to Zilker.
i'm listening to another cold show - Halifax - at the moment. Keith is hit and miss, but pretty damn entertaining. it's dirty - i'm dig'n it. anyone notice the cat fight in the crowd at the end Monkey Man? Pretty funny. ... oh shit, here comes SOL.
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| 13th October 2006 06:57 AM |
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| Steel Wheels |
Keith Richards will always be the best. Playing or not, sitting or standing, Keef is my hero. |
| 13th October 2006 08:20 AM |
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| Ten Thousand Motels |
Memorable Quote from The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1962)
Ransom Stoddard: You're not going to use the story, Mr. Scott?
Maxwell Scott: This is the west, sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend..
[Edited by Ten Thousand Motels] |
| 13th October 2006 08:52 AM |
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| NHStonesfan |
I'll continue to follow blindly and enjoy the hell out of it! |
| 13th October 2006 09:16 AM |
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| Honky Tonk Man |
Regardless of how Keith performs, I absolutely love every minute of watching him perform. Whether it's from standing a few feet away from the B-stage, or watching him on the wonderful Saitama DVD. He is an absolute legend and those glorious filthy riffs are still in place for the most part. All he has to do is crank out that Brown Sugar intro and I'm away. I'd say it’s the same for 99% of the audience too. That’s what matters. He still entertains and puts a grin on people’s faces.
HOWEVER, if we are talking purely about his current ability, then for sure, as discussed countless times, it’s diminishing. The show the other night must've been just an of night though. The weather may of made his fingers hurt. Its possible. I like the laziness comments too. I know a lot of the tunes are in open G tuning, but I personally feel that encourages it.
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| 13th October 2006 09:58 AM |
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| Some Guy |
as long as they don't tarp him. |
| 13th October 2006 10:51 AM |
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| Saint Sway |
© Tarpism. |
| 13th October 2006 06:44 PM |
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| Ten Thousand Motels |
quote:
Ten Thousand Motels wrote:
Maxwell Scott: This is the west, sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend..
Keith's demise? What demise???? This thread is just hair splitting. The Legend is intact....and it always will be. 50 years from now the world won't give a fuck whether Keith loved his kids or his dog, whether he had a stroke or the cold hurt his arthritic hands on a cold night...and all that trivia, but they will want to read the about the legend and listen to the songs.
PRINT THE LEGEND!
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| 13th October 2006 06:47 PM |
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| TampabayStone |
quote:
Ten Thousand Motels wrote:
Keith's demise? What demise???? This thread is just hair splitting. The Legend is intact....and it always will be. 50 years from now the world won't give a fuck whether Keith loved his kids or his dog, whether he had a stroke or the cold hurt his arthritic hands on a cold night...and all that trivia, but they will want to read the about the legend and listen to the songs.
PRINT THE LEGEND!
[Edited by Ten Thousand Motels]
PRINTED, my man! |
