| 16th August 2007 01:44 PM |
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| 17th August 2007 04:58 AM |
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| Anna |
Thanks Ghost!it's rather hard to get these films with the stones.i can be happy that i could download 2 films about them...but the others... |
| 17th August 2007 11:54 AM |
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| GhostofBrianJones |
You are welcome anytime. I noticed some of the other Stones videos have
been taken down due to problems with ABKCO Allen Klein which made our
illustrious Admin rather angry to say the least. I have downloaded as many
as I could when they were still uploaded. The only thing I was able to download
like on LimeWire was RNR Circus so far. I guess the others are not going to be
available. I can forward what I have to those who are interested, from YouTube. In the meantime checking the YouTube site may bring new videos in the near future.
Has anyone read Keith's interview in Mojo? It is interesting as usual.
LOVE TO S&K!!
Hi to all other BJ fans here too!! |
| 17th August 2007 11:55 AM |
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| Anna |
i'm really bad fan 'cause i don't know the succession of brian's girlfriends, anybody knows it? hopefully i won't ask stupid questions like this... sorry for this!
Thank You |
| 17th August 2007 02:18 PM |
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| 17th August 2007 03:38 PM |
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| GhostofBrianJones |
Besides the ones mentioned in the Stones books, it would be the five ladies
who gave birth to his three sons and two daughters, then Anita, Suki and
Anna Wohlin. Plus there was reportedly many more inbetween but I have
never seen any other names except a lady named Carmen. One time BJ
and Bill were counting how many women they had had in one month and
I believe it was somewhere around 260 or something like that. Anyway one
count was 2 or 3 everyday for one month. I would have to look that up.
LOVE TO S&K!! |
| 17th August 2007 10:30 PM |
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| Olivia1962 |
^ hahh that is classic
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| 18th August 2007 07:15 AM |
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| 18th August 2007 12:12 PM |
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| Anna |
quote:
GhostofBrianJones wrote:
Besides the ones mentioned in the Stones books, it would be the five ladies
who gave birth to his three sons and two daughters, then Anita, Suki and
Anna Wohlin. Plus there was reportedly many more inbetween but I have
never seen any other names except a lady named Carmen. One time BJ
and Bill were counting how many women they had had in one month and
I believe it was somewhere around 260 or something like that. Anyway one
count was 2 or 3 everyday for one month. I would have to look that up.
wow...260 girlfriends/month... he always amaze me,he's almost dead for 40 years but there are things what i still don't know about him, that's why he's an adorable person.
LOVE TO S&K!!
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| 18th August 2007 02:41 PM |
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| BriansBabe |
Hi everybody!
Sorry, 260 girls in one month, this would mean circa 8 a day...I think this is a little bit exaggerated, or not?????? |
| 18th August 2007 03:46 PM |
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| Anna |
that festival in Monterey with Nico, it is recorded?? |
| 18th August 2007 03:51 PM |
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| Anna |
quote:
BriansBabe wrote:
Hi everybody!
Sorry, 260 girls in one month, this would mean circa 8 a day...I think this is a little bit exaggerated, or not??????
oh,if that were MY left hand... |
| 18th August 2007 05:01 PM |
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| GhostofBrianJones |
I think it might of been between the two of them. I think
one total revealed at least 2 per day, maybe more who knows.
It was a conversation Bill and Brian were having between
them at one time. Maybe it is in Bill's book. But I do slightly remember at least one at two a day. They were really
rabbits back then weren't they? Does anyone remember I think
from Bill's book where they were in a hotel and they looked
down at the crowds of girls below their window and were
sending down (or up?) for "laundry" meaning the women they
chose to sleep with during a certain period of time they
were there? They could not have them come up or something
like that so they used the word "laundry" instead. I thought
it was every ten minutes which sounds grossly exaggerated,
and Keith replied that it takes 10 minutes for the girl
to take her pants off! I about fell out laughing!! Anyway
they were really chasing and lovin' the women back then.
Oh well.
LOVE TO S&K!!!!
If anyone happens to look the above info up please let me
know what it really says. I cannot remember all of their
escapades as they had so many. LOL!! |
| 18th August 2007 09:46 PM |
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| BriansBabe |
Found this in Bill´s book ( Rolling with the Stones, S. 169 ) :
" It was in Australia that we started to refer to the girls
we picked up on tour as ´laundry`...We would see girls
from our windows waiting outside the hotel, ring down to
the porter and tell him which ones we wanted."
´laundry`? = LOL
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| 18th August 2007 10:00 PM |
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| BriansBabe |
quote:
Anna wrote:
that festival in Monterey with Nico, it is recorded??
I think so, but not sure, maybe somebody else here can find
out more...
[Edited by BriansBabe] |
| 19th August 2007 06:27 AM |
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| 19th August 2007 06:28 AM |
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| 19th August 2007 10:51 AM |
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| GhostofBrianJones |
Does Bill happen to mention how many girls they did in a
certain time? I can't remember. For some reason I thought
it was every ten minutes, but that does not sound right.
I am surprised they had enough energy to do the show that
night even though they were young! LOL!! Yes ladies at one
time we were "laundry" sad but true. They could not ask
the porters to send the ladies up as "ladies" so they had
to use the word Laundry. Wonder how many ladies they would
have up at one time? I guess Bill was the leading laundry
man at that time? Bet that was interesting... |
| 19th August 2007 08:51 PM |
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| BriansBabe |
I have that 10 minutes thing also in my mind...maybe it´s mentioned in ´Stone alone`...???
But I´ve found another interesting statement from ´Tony Sanchez` in his book ´Up and down with the Rolling Stones`:
" I picked him up with his girl friend, Suki Poitier, and
noticed that yet again Brian had become involved with a woman who was the mirror image of himself. Women seemed compelled to look like Brian; it was as though they were worried that he was more beautiful than they.
They´d all cut their hair into long fringes, like his, and they would wear Moroccan clothes borrowed from his wardrobe.
Brian had once come out with some garbled theory to me about
how he believed most beautiful women were narcissistic and they dug making love to him because it was as close as they could get to making love to themselves.
The theory had sounded faintly ludicrous, but I had been unable to deny the extraordinary sway Brian held over women.
He once told me he had slept with sixty in a particularly
energetic month, and I´m certain he was telling the truth."
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| 19th August 2007 08:53 PM |
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| 20th August 2007 06:04 AM |
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http://www.brianjonesfanclub.com/museum.htm
The Brian Jones Museum and Exhibition.
It’s a fact that there is no significant, permanent memorial to Brian Jones.
Under a tree in a Cheltenham cemetery there is a wooden bench, paid for by fan club members but sadly neglected by locals with bird droppings making it more of a health hazard than the original intent, a quiet retreat for visitors to Brian’s grave.
There is a blue plaque at the entrance to ‘Rosemead’, Brian’s childhood home; again paid for by fan club members but, does a small plaque do justice to the young man from Cheltenham who moved on to London and, through his own tenacity and inspiration, formed the phenomenon that 45 years on, still tour the world as the Rolling Stones?
Then there is the statue; or that was what fan club members donated many thousands of pounds for but ended up, despite all their efforts, with a small bust tucked away in the rear of a Cheltenham shopping mall. And we all know what bad press resulted as a result of the appalling unveiling ceremony with guest of honour Tom Keylock leading the so called VIP’s banal praise for Brian!
Finally we were given ‘Stoned’, which, according to producer Stephen Woolley, was the definitive portrayal of the hedonistic lifestyle of Brian Jones and the fictional account of his demise. Again, the negative press of the time said it all……
Over the past couple of years dwindling support for the Brian Jones Fan Club might be largely attributable to true fans apathy for the above low points and who can blame members for falling away? Many people have made huge contributions in time and effort to keep things going but with membership dropping to just over 60 for 2006/7 it’s a sad fact that financially things are extremely difficult for the BJFC. All the negativity over recent years might just disillusion the strongest of supporters but be assured, the BJFC will never cease to exist, and we need to persuade people to come back, believing that we are the real deal for those who support Brian’s achievements and memory.
Over the last few months however there has been a significant development which, with your support, might change things for the better. It’s long been a pipedream that we might establish a permanent home for the BJFC in Brian’s hometown of Cheltenham, but financially impossible with the cost and/or rental of bricks and mortar being so prohibitive.
However, on the 1st July, after meeting up at the cemetery BJFC members went on to the Wheatsheaf Inn, a mile or so from Cheltenham town centre in Leckhampton. The afternoon’s events and evening gig were a fantastic success. Up and coming band Circus, all teenagers, opened the gig supported by ‘Janis Joplin influenced’ Maria Daines who, with her own band and led by Pat Townshend performed ‘Long Live Brian Jones’ and ‘What Fame Can Do’, both songs written and recorded by Pat. Incredible harp player John O’Leary accompanied Pat also and showed his support for the fan club and visitors with some fine solo pieces. In amongst everybody and enjoying the evening, chatting, signing autographs and having his photograph taken was P J Proby, Brian’s good friend from the mid 60's.
Part way through the evening somebody put a call in and out of the blue the Ramrods turned up, guitars in hand and their impromptu performance just made the night!
But read on…….
‘CLUB 66 at the Venue’ – The Wheatsheaf, Leckhampton, Cheltenham.
Gloucestershire Echo press report.
Press release, July 2007.
It’s the late 1950’s, and nestling deep into the Cotswold hillsides genteel Cheltenham is experiencing a never-seen-before teenage revolution as American style coffee bars and basement jazz clubs start to cater for the increasing import of devil’s music from the United States. Local historian John Appleby recorded this exciting time for the town’s youngsters in his rare booklet ’38 Priory Street’, one of the more infamous meeting places for the avant garde of Cheltenham.
Another establishment soon to catch onto this phenomena was the Wheatsheaf Inn out on the Old Bath Road, Leckhampton. A family run pub on the main arterial route between London and the West Country, landlord Mr. Webley realised that giving an outlet for the local youngsters to ‘let their hair down’ might seriously increase his turnover. The pub’s skittle alley soon became ‘Club 66’ and started to attract many local jazz, swing, jive and rock and roll bands including The Ramrods, still gigging today and others going onto national fame like the wacky Temperance Seven.
In 1958 and amongst this burgeoning music scene, sixteen year old Brian Jones, himself to go on to fame and fortune with the Stones started to experience the birth of popular music in the UK. A regular visitor to Club 66, Brian soon started to tote his guitar around, taking every and any opportunity to get up on stage with his older contemporaries, and to save himself the entrance fee he often sat on the door collecting admission money as well as issuing and signing Membership Cards.
It was at Club 66 that Dick Hattrell, an early influence on Brian, first met the youngster with an insatiable appetite for the Blues. Dick recalls: “My earliest recollection of Brian was when I visited a jazz venue known locally as Club 66. Brian was on the door collecting entrance fees and checking membership cards, he had this heady responsibility which included issuing membership cards and I guess this was his first tentative step on the ladder to fame and fortune. I remember we chatted very briefly about the music on offer that evening but a few weeks later he sought me out at The Rotunda in Montpellier, another music venue quite near to the town centre. He’d heard through the grapevine that I had a collection of Muddy Waters records and wanted to borrow a couple to get to know the lyrics as well as the music. He was totally absorbed with Muddy’s unique version of Rhythm and Blues and after mentally absorbing everything from those few discs, he gradually went through the rest of my collection, which included the music of Elmore James, Chuck Berry, Bo Diddley and Howlin Wolf. I was extremely impressed with Brian’s retention and his almost obsessive interest in these artists, and their kind of music. Our common interests, at this very early stage, really cemented our friendship. When Brian died in 1969 I felt such an enormous loss and to this day remember with fondness the friendship we had all those years ago”.
Trumpeter John Keen remembers Brian’s devotion to the Blues music he so loved: “Back then it was incredible to see the energy that Brian put into, not only his music but more importantly his organisational skills. I can’t think of many sixteen year olds these days who could run and organise a jazz club like he did. He ended up managing and promoting the whole show”. The John Keen Jazz Band often included Brian Jones in their ‘Club 66’ line-up and, as the band progressed into the early 1960’s Brian stared to get more of his own Blues gigs and the four piece band, John Keen, Brian Jones, Graham Ride and Dick (Duck) Pond would, for these particular venues, perform under their alternate pseudonym, the Brian Jones Blues Band.
Today, landlord Maurice Dominey has regular bookings for The Venue, once the pub’s skittle alley and for a brief period in the late 1950’s, ‘Club 66’. Recently, on July 1st the Brian Jones Fan Club held one of their bi-annual get-togethers with guests including The Ramrods, Pat Townshend (one time business partner of Mick Jagger and member of the Rolling Stones inner circle) and legendary 60’s trouser-splitting singer P J Proby.
First to take the stage were progressive rock band Circus, five 16 – 18 year olds from Norwich who recently have so impressed Pat Townshend with their precocious talent and Blues/rock pedigree, that he has sponsored their backline with an ice-white Staccato drum kit saying: “These boys have an amazing talent, and I think Brian (Jones) would definitely approve their playing the Club 66 stage".
So taken with The Venue, Pat Andrews, Brian’s Cheltenham girlfriend and mother to their son Mark who together with Brian were at the birth of the Stones commented, “What a great place this would be for the fans from all over the world who visit Cheltenham to see the places where Brian lived and hung out; to have a permanent living museum for Brian would be absolutely wonderful”. And over the past few weeks a long held idea has now become a reality.
An agreement between landlord Maurice Dominey and the BJFC has now established Club 66 at The Venue. The ex-skittle alley has been completely refurbished; exhibits and memorabilia have started to appear and are now being wall mounted for permanent display. Artist Ben Riley has donated a number of his favourite paintings to add to the exhibition and approaches are being made to people who might want to loan and exhibit their own personal Brian Jones memorabilia.
Songwriter and guitarist Pat Townshend, whose 1960’s formative years in music were so influenced by Brian Jones later went on to design and manufacture the revolutionary Staccato drums that rock pundits might recall being played by sticks legends John Bonham (Led Zeppelin) and Keith Moon (The Who). The Staccato drums also featured in Paul McCartney’s ‘Rockestra’ filmed at Abbey Road Studios in 1978 as well as making appearances in Bow Wow Wow’s ‘I Want Candy’ (1982) and Robbie Williams’ ‘Let Me Entertain You’ (1997) videos.
Centrepiece of the museum will be a replica white VOX Teardrop guitar, designed to the exact specification as Brian’s own Teardrop by Pat Townshend. Hutchins Guitars, a company specialising in replica guitars have agreed to produce a limited edition Brian Jones Teardrop and # 001 will be donated to the museum. Teardrops # 010 thro 250 will be available exclusively through the BJFC and the Brian Jones museum. Contact either for more details.
12 months ago Pat Townshend joined the team from the BJFC researching the death of Brian Jones and contributed valuable information. Representing the research team Trevor Hobley comments: “It’s been almost five years now that we’ve been investigating the suspicious death of Brian Jones. Along the way people have come forward who’ve never been interviewed before, new evidence and discoveries have been made proving that Brian’s death was not accidental nor a death by misadventure. Our work is now finished and everything is in the hands of our legal representatives ……….”
Getting back to Club 66, future plans for this living museum include gigs to fund the Brian Jones exhibition. It’s planned to have a grand opening night in late October with Brian’s good friend P J Proby doing the honours and sharing his own memories of ‘hanging out’ with Brian, John Lennon and many others in the swinging London of the 1960’s.
If you’d like to contribute ideas or have something to loan to the exhibition please contact Trevor Hobley either through the BJFC website www.brianjonesfanclub.com or his e-mail address [email protected].
Anybody from Cheltenham and the surrounding area who knew Brian personally back in the 50’s and 60’s, and who might want to come along as our guest is invited to contact the BJFC’s Trevor Hobley.
Alternatively take a look at the fan club’s website for news of progress, photographs and upcoming events and then, if you’d like to help in any way, please make contact and support the fan clubs efforts in keeping Cheltenham’s most infamous rock star’s light shining. If you just happen to be in Cheltenham, come along and take a look - you're all invited.
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| 20th August 2007 10:27 AM |
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| GhostofBrianJones |
I swear I would go if I could. If I can start walking better and get my finances
together I will go.
Just wanted to mention Steve my store which I am going to today sells
Stella Artois beer!! It is about 2 miles from my house. I was so surprised to
see that! Unfortunately I cannot drink but will always think of you when I see
it.
I hope someday after the work Trevor has completed, the investigation, etc,
the fan club will once again flourish as it has before. A renewed interest in
Brian, and his music is richly deserved. Also the music he loved and strived to
present in his own right should be remembered as it was on the early Rolling
Stones recordings. He is an intregal part of Rock History as many others during
his lifetime are. A person does not have to be alive to be remembered, ever.
I have loved him since I was 14 and still continue to this day. He was a
briliant musician, and despite his shortcomings was basically a good and
decent man. I have no interest in what others think about how I or anyone
else feels who is a fan of Brian's, it is our right to remember him as we see
want to. So keep posting those beautiful pictures and adding the great
commentary as we have been doing, it is what makes this thread going and
keeps Brian's memory alive as we see fit.
LOVE TO S&K!!
Hi to all BJ fans who post pictures and wonderful messages here. |
| 20th August 2007 10:05 PM |
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| BriansBabe |
Yes Linda, we never give up, to keep Brian´s memory alive...
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| 20th August 2007 10:10 PM |
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| Olivia1962 |
Woah i have missed quit a bit how is every one doing? I hope all is well. Love all the pictures 
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| 20th August 2007 10:17 PM |
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| Olivia1962 |
No! i would be there in a mintue to join. I cant wait to get out of the states! I need to see what is happening with this.
Long live brian |
| 20th August 2007 10:30 PM |
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| BriansBabe |
Good night, Linda, Steve, Olivia, Sophia...and all here...
That reminds me of this TV series `The Waltons´,LOL
You all know `The Waltons´on TV, do you?
So we are the `The Jones´ens´...ha,ha...
Oh no, I´m so silly, it´s better I go to bed now...and dream of our beloved Brian...
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| 21st August 2007 05:48 AM |
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| 21st August 2007 06:25 AM |
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GhostofBrianJones wrote:
So keep posting those beautiful pictures and adding the great
commentary as we have been doing, it is what makes this thread going and
keeps Brian's memory alive as we see fit.
LOVE TO S&K!!
Hi to all BJ fans who post pictures and wonderful messages here.
you're absolutely right!
anyway how old are you? |
| 21st August 2007 07:09 AM |
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| Anna |
does anybody have that pic where Brian's holding a picture in his mouth about the Queen? (coloured one)
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