| September 30th, 2005 01:08 AM |
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| stonedinaustralia |
was at a friends place last night and a friend of his had sent him a batch of DVDs with various musical bits and pieces one of which was the stones on Top of the Pops doing Gimme Shelter
not sure how soon before the 69 US tour they did this but it must have been close
mick is sporting the famous leo/omega motif t-shirt
the really remarkable thing is Mick Taylor - now they are just miming to the record more or less (tho mick vox live i think - but the music track is the let it bleed track) - anyway, mick T. is very animated, bopping around pretending to strum some chords (keith mimes the lead guitar bits) and grinning from ear to ear - almost like he's thinking "wow, here i am playing guitar in the greatest rock and roll band in the world, how cool is this" - funny to think that less than a few months later after the 69 tour generally and , i suppose, altamont in particular he would have lost all his stage moves and had the smile wiped off his face
it was very interesting to see the whole band in this situation - they are clearly on top of their game and the world, with mick playing the 60's rock god to the hilt but it is weird to think that they were, at that point in time and without realising it, at the end of an era and that very shortly things would never be the same again |
| September 30th, 2005 02:07 AM |
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| corgi37 |
I also saw a (i guess) Ed Sullivan GS about 6 months ago on Foxtel. The miming was hilariously bad. They chopped out the whole verse with Mary Clayton!
Charlie didnt even bother to even remotely pretend to play along. hahaha, it was funny.
The clip you saw, i have only ever seen once. It was (sniff sob) in 1982!! It was on a ABC current affairs show hosted by Peter Couchman. Nightline. Or Nation wide or something. It was a doco on the band's 81-82 tour, and of course featured the line "expected to tour Australia soon". hahaha. Yeah, real soon. Like 13 years later!
The little segment was about why the Stones were so popular. I recall a DJ was interviewed, and he said if the "disco" is going quietly, he pops on a Stones song and the dance floor is full. Full of drunken, yobbo, Jagger impersonators, but still full.
At the end of the segment, Couchman said "Some of you might wonder why we would put on a feature on the Rolling Stones. Well, we like to cater to the OLDER viewers out there!"
Oh, fucking ha-ha! |
| September 30th, 2005 02:19 AM |
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| beer |
Got it on video SIA. Just watched it again, Honky tonk Women and Gimme shelter from TOTP. You're right, Taylor happily strums along to the backing track, Charlie looks bored! great to watch though.
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| September 30th, 2005 05:26 AM |
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| Gazza |
Great vocal performance by Mick on that one (especially the way he shouts "Gimme Shel-TAH!" in the last verse.
It can be found on the Mickboy remaster of "Let it Bleed" if I remember right
Its not actually from Top of The Pops, but a one off BBC special broadcast on New Years Eve '69 called "Pop Go The Sixties".
The Stones taped both Gimme Shelter for this show and Honky Tonk Women (for the Xmas day edition of "Top of The Pops") at the BBC studios on 12.12.69. Fortunately, its two of the few BBC performances from that era which the idiots at the BBC DIDNT wipe.
Channel 4 in the UK re-broadcast the whole "Pop Go the 60's" special 30 years to the day later on 31/12/99. The Who were on it as well. |
| September 30th, 2005 06:45 AM |
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| stonedinaustralia |
thanks for the clatrificatn gazza
speaking of the bbc and being in the middle of 2stoned and always having had a fascination for the scene i'd still love to see the stones on juke box jury - i just gotsta know who they slagged off (or praised - idid they pass judgment on "like a rolling stone" or is that just me imagination??
i have often wondered whether that footage survived - tho according to loog oldham if it was the first show of two done in an afternoon it may not have even been recorded
according to oldham there is (or at least was) an audio recording in existance |
| September 30th, 2005 07:18 AM |
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| Gazza |
I think the Stones' appearance as the panel on Juke Box Jury was a bit before Dylan released LARS..I'd need to check to be sure, but I dont ever recall reading that LARS was one of the songs...
and no, as I'm sure you could have predicted, that broadcast has bitten the dust as well. I've never known a copy of it to circulate. |
| September 30th, 2005 07:41 AM |
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| stonedinaustralia |
quote:
Gazza wrote:
I think the Stones' appearance as the panel on Juke Box Jury was a bit before Dylan released LARS..I'd need to check to be sure, but I dont ever recall reading that LARS was one of the songs...
and no, as I'm sure you could have predicted, that broadcast has bitten the dust as well. I've never known a copy of it to circulate.
yes
i would be interested to know when it was done
and if you have reference to a credible list i'd love to see it or, indeed, the list itself
cheers
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| September 30th, 2005 07:55 AM |
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| Gazza |
Broadcast on 4th July 1964, apparently - so, over a year before Dylan released LARS.
Dont know what the songs were but I think they gave the thumbs down to most of them. Maybe Wyman's "Stone Alone" has more info. |
| September 30th, 2005 07:58 AM |
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| stonedinaustralia |
quote:
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Broadcast on 4th July 1964, apparently - so, over a year before Dylan released LARS.
Dont know what the songs were but I think they gave the thumbs down to most of them. Maybe Wyman's "Stone Alone" has more info.
thnaks gazza
i've forgotten more about the stones than most people will ever know
but i still don't know it all!! dammit!!
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| September 30th, 2005 08:32 AM |
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| Gazza |
would you honestly want to? LOL
You have a life. Its best to keep it that way! |
| September 30th, 2005 08:45 AM |
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| Honky Tonk Man |
According to Bills book Rolling With The Stones; the boys were played eight songs. Among them were Someday We're Gonna Love Again by The Searchers, The Ferris Wheel by The Everly Brothers, Just For You by Freddie And The Dreamers and Elvis's There’s Gold In The Mountain.
I must admit, I've never heard of any of them!
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| September 30th, 2005 09:12 AM |
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| Maxlugar |
[quote]stonedinaustralia wrote:
- funny to think that less than a few months later after the 69 tour generally and , i suppose, altamont in particular he would have lost all his stage moves and had the smile wiped off his face
True enough but I've never seen Mick T looking happier or more animated than during the Dancing with Mr. D promo years later.
Keith's face in that GS promo is down right shocking. So gaunt. I had always assumed this bit was filmed before the '69 tour and that Keith was still shocked by Brian's death. But Gazza seems to have cleared that up. He must have hit the heroin hard right after the tour.
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| September 30th, 2005 09:32 AM |
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| Joey |
" True enough but I've never seen Mick T looking happier or more animated than during the Dancing with Mr. D promo years later. "
You should have seen him at the Kansas City Rib Fest ( circa August 2001 ) .
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| September 30th, 2005 11:05 AM |
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| stonedinaustralia |
quote:
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True enough but I've never seen Mick T looking happier or more animated than during the Dancing with Mr. D promo years later.
yes max you are correct.
and don;t forget the IORR clip . from memory he is laughing it up there too, drowning in a sea of bubbles.
mick taylor was very serious when he played but he had fun making show |
| September 30th, 2005 11:07 AM |
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| stonedinaustralia |
quote:
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You should have seen him at the Kansas City Rib Fest ( circa August 2001 ) .
by god i wish i had |
| September 30th, 2005 01:12 PM |
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| beer |
Taylor onstage with The Stones, Kansas City 1981
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| September 30th, 2005 06:00 PM |
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| Gazza |
quote:
Honky Tonk Man wrote:
According to Bills book Rolling With The Stones; the boys were played eight songs. Among them were Someday We're Gonna Love Again by The Searchers, The Ferris Wheel by The Everly Brothers, Just For You by Freddie And The Dreamers and Elvis's There’s Gold In The Mountain.
I must admit, I've never heard of any of them!
I consider myself an Elvis afficionado and that song didnt ring a bell with me at all! I had to look it up. It's from the "Kissin' Cousins" soundtrack. Strange choice of song to review as its only an album track |
| October 1st, 2005 07:33 AM |
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| corgi37 |
I love everything 60's. How sad it must have been to see them end. 1969 in my opinion is one of the most important and amazing years in the history of the world.
I was 6. |
| October 1st, 2005 11:11 AM |
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| Honky Tonk Man |
quote:
Gazza wrote:
I consider myself an Elvis afficionado and that song didnt ring a bell with me at all! I had to look it up. It's from the "Kissin' Cousins" soundtrack. Strange choice of song to review as its only an album track
A what a bloody terrible soundtrack it is! |
| October 2nd, 2005 04:28 AM |
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| sj |
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I love everything 60's. How sad it must have been to see them end. 1969 in my opinion is one of the most important and amazing years in the history of the world.
I was 6.
There with ya cogi37.
I watched 'Hyde Park' and I just go wow, looks like a revolution is gonna happen. Then I watch 'Gimme Shelter' and understand why it didn't. Te hells angels and hippies just didn't see eye to eye.
Fave music docos by anyone.
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| October 2nd, 2005 09:37 AM |
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| corgi37 |
I just LOVE all that shit. Plus Woodstock. It was such a wonderful era. And so quickly things changed. Look at the Stones in 63, then compare 69!
Look at the Stones from 89, and compare them now. Why, Keith's hair has actually got darker! Thinner and frizzier, but darker!
I love the way people really thought things were changing. Not just the hippie types, but the oldies too. Nixon really considered the "counter culture" a threat. As did Hoover, Agnew and company.
Even Ed Sullivan! The stuff people got away with, man, they really pushed. From staid lame ass wankers like Dick Clark, peddling his "safe" musical tastes, to people fucking and swimming naked at music festivals.
Then, it turned. Manson. Altamont. The Isle of Wight. Brian, Jimi, Pearl, Jimbo croaking.
I havent even mentioned Nam, which was a huge thing for the Yanks and us.
Keith has mentioned before the massive social changes in the U.S. between the Stones 3 year touring break from 66-69.
To me, the greatest technological advancements happened from 1939-1945.
The greatest social changes happened from 1963 to 1969.
And i havent even touched on the Kennedy's, the moon landing, and many other events.
But, then see how it all went sour in the 70's. The birth of international terrorism, Watergate, Nam again, and the growth and acceptance of the porn industry. All of a sudden, the happy, fresh faced hippie girls, were now washed out junkies doing porn for $10.00 a pop.
To me, Manson and his family is the total "True face" of what was happening, especially in the U.S. Most of the girls were ugly to hideous, but some were ok. Most were 16-19. Some had kids. Most had the clap. Most were always hungry, angry, dissillusioned drifters from tragic homes. All exploited (some WANTED to be!) but all swayed by a weird older guy. Same with the other "counter culture heroes" like Jerry Rubin and Abbie Hoffman. These guys (Jews i might add) had some amazingly strong power over people. Yet, look at them! They look so odd in Kaftans and sandals. Towneshend was right!!! Rubin went on to be a extremely wealthy Wall St banker - Hoffman became irrelevant, and died a no one. Nah, Wavy Gravy was the star of the 60's!
Ah, man, i cant stop. I love it all.
Anyway, back to reality and the present. |
| October 2nd, 2005 09:49 AM |
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| corgi37 |
Shit, i didnt even mention HAIR!!!! |
| October 2nd, 2005 10:10 AM |
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| Gazza |
probably because you dont have any left!  |
