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26th September 2006 04:57 PM
Ten Thousand Motels Dirty dancing’ comes to a grinding halt in N.H. high school

By Marie Szaniszlo and Jessica Fargen
Friday, September 22, 2006 - Updated: 10:04 AM EST
Boston Herald

A New Hampshire school has canceled its annual homecoming dance, joining the growing number of schools across the country cracking down on “dirty dancing.”

Concord High School Principal Gene Connolly has called off all school dances, including the Oct. 7 homecoming, until students stop “grinding.”

“I’m a big fan of high school dances. We have one a month here. But some things aren’t appropriate at a high school dance,” Connolly said yesterday. “And feigning a sexual act is one of them.”

At Concord High, it all started about three years ago, when administrators got their first glimpse of “freak dancing” and tried to intervene but the grinding continued.

Last year, they met with the student senate and drafted a “dance memo of understanding” in which both sides agreed that students would use their best judgment, but administrators would have the final say.

The situation came to a head last Saturday at the first dance of the school year. After repeated warnings, a half-dozen boys were asked to leave, and about 150 students followed.

Last year, Upper Cape Cod Regional Technical High School administrators banned explicit dancing and “excessive body contact,” warning violators would be ousted.

“It was bad enough we’d have to separate them and talk to people and finally there was a time where you had to say, ‘We have to do something about this before something happens,’ ” said School Committee member Ken Pereira.

According to the Web site, urbandictionary.com, “freak dancing” consists of a female placing her clothed buttocks onto the zipper area of a man’s pants. “Then, she vibrates vigorously and the authorities appear.”

“It’s a sign of affection,” said Rose Matthieu, a Somerville High School sophomore.

Mark Nocera, owner of Studio 665, a Woburn dance school, considers freak dancing “a little inappropriate for that age group.”

But he also noted that even the waltz caused a stir when it was first introduced because of the physical closeness it entails.

“These days, you dance Reggaeton and Hip Hop. It’s just the way teenagers dance,” said Giulia Oliveira, 16 a Somerville High School junior.
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No grinding at the dance

By MICHAEL COUSINEAU
Union Leader Staff
Sunday, Sep. 24, 2006

Concord – Even before administrators postponed Concord High School's homecoming dance, high school boys grinding their pelvises into girls backsides at school dances have raised the eyebrows of chaperones and administrators across the state.

One principal, Hopkinton's Steve Chamberlin, said this week's high school dance will include a new ban on "grinding," with only face-to-face dancing permitted.

"Over the last few years, it was getting progressively (more) risque," Chamberlin said Friday. "And at times we've seen kids sandwich one another and ... dance in provocative manner. That's not appropriate for a school dance."

But students say they're just dancing to the music of their day.

"As far as my generation, this is what we do. I think it's a clash of generations," said Concord junior Nathan Holmes. "That's how their generation grew up. We're free-spirited."

Chaperones and students clashed a week ago yesterday when five or six students attending a dance in the Concord High School cafeteria were told to leave the dance, triggering a walkout of more than 100 students.

Principal Gene Connolly last week put a halt to the Oct. 7 homecoming dance until students and administrators reach an understanding of what will be acceptable at future dances. Homecoming is tentatively rescheduled for Nov. 7.

Even TV comedian Jay Leno couldn't resist joking about the matter Friday night.

By week's end, Connolly had met with groups of students Thursday and Friday and thought the issue could be resolved, according to Superintendent Christine Rath.

"He told me he's confident they'll reach a common understanding on how to proceed, so he was pretty optimistic," she said.

Some students believe any compromise that includes a ban on grinding will lead to few students attending future dances.

"I think no one will go if they can't dance the way they want to because it's not fair," said Concord sophomore Tifani Douillette.

Not every student thinks the issue is worth national news coverage.

"The fact is this is not a big deal and it's all over the news," said Concord senior Sammie O'Brien. She said the school has bigger problems, such as fights and illegal drug use.

In the handbook

Rath said differences over proper dancing goes back at least a few years. The current student handbook requires "dance partners must face each other" and that "the faculty and administrators in attendance will be the final judge of the appropriateness of dance style."

Dances last school year were halted for about two months until students and administrators agreed on a "Dance Memo of Understanding."


"I think no one will go if they can't dance the way they want to...," Concord High sophmore Tifani Douillette says of the crackdown on provocative dancing. (BOB LAPREE)
"We, as students, acknowledge that current dance trends can appear overtly sexual in nature," the memo states.

"The administration has made it clear they do not want to police our dancing styles," it said. "We all know where the line is and when we are crossing it. There will be no specific 'rules' to follow regarding how we dance, however, should someone's dancing make others feel uncomfortable they will be kindly asked to stop, or modify their dancing style."

Rath said "this issue has created a lot of energy in the schools" and 99 percent of phone calls from parents have been supportive of the administration.

"I think people missed the boat," Rath said. "The issue is not about dancing. The issue is about appropriate behavior at a high school dance... We're not making judgments about dancing in other settings or dancing at home."

Not just Concord
Other school districts have been on the lookout for similar dancing.

Salem High Principal Bill Hagen said chaperones at his school's dances are given the task of intervening when they think students' dancing turns inappropriate. The high school has no formal policy regarding grinding, he said, but rules that prevent the behavior in hallways are also in effect during dances.

He said inappropriate dancing happens even during semi-formal and formal dances. With so many students attending a dance, he said, some of them are bound to act provocatively.

"You'll have some kids that'll push the boundaries of appropriate behavior and you address those kids when those things happen," he said.

At Hopkinton, Chamberlin didn't want to change the rules midway through the last school year but decided to this year after talking with the superintendent. He explained the situation to the student council and recently sent home a letter informing parents.

"It's not a huge problem here, just something we look out for," said Ronald Fussell Jr., vice principal of academics for Bishop Guertin High School, a Catholic school in Nashua founded by the Brothers of the Sacred Heart.

"We don't condone any inappropriate dancing," Fussell said. "In our student handbook it states that any inappropriate dancing is prohibited."

Fussell said during student orientation the policy is clarified to students as any pelvis-to-pelvis contact. "We suggest a good test is if they would dance in front of their parents like that."

At school dances, Fussell said any student seen dancing inappropriately receives one warning before being asked to leave.

"Our problem is that many people find inappropriate dancing offensive. We don't have teachers who want to chaperone our dances," Fussell said. "Teachers aren't comfortable seeing that."

Tim Broderick, dean of students at Alvirne High School in Hudson, said there is no official policy regarding types of dances allowed at school dances and there hasn't appeared to be a need for one yet.

Arthur Adamakos, principal at Manchester's Memorial High School, said "we have not dealt with that issue hardly at all."

Adamakos, however, has noticed that fewer students are attending dances than decades ago.

Back in the 1980s, 600 to 800 students would show up out of a student population of 1,700 to 1,800. Today, the school has 2,250 students and "if we get 300 to 400 to show up over four hours of dancing, that would be a success," Adamakos said. "I think because these kids are so overextended over what they're doing, it's hard to fit it in."

Mark Joyce, executive director of the New Hampshire School Administrators Association, said dancing was an issue at school dances when he was principal.

"Back in the '70s, it was probably more traditional slow dancing. You didn't dance like you did in a ballroom anymore," Joyce said. "I think that's a perennial tension."

Correspondents Son Hoang, Mike Kalil and Jim Kozubek contributed to this report.

[Edited by Ten Thousand Motels]
26th September 2006 05:09 PM
polytoxic Awesome - lap dances are affection and blow jobs aren't sex. HIgh schoolers have it made these days.


Meanwhile, In Toronto, if you ever your shit taken by the cops and thought "I bet you they're smoking/drinking it five minutes later". Proof that they are.

Peel police chief vows to probe allegations
Peel chief pledges to do 'right thing'
By ALAN CAIRNS, TORONTO SUN

Peel Police Chief Mike Metcalfe promises that his command will not run from allegations that have rocked the service in the past week.

Amid allegations of illegal boozing, thefts of confiscated beer, wild driving and attempts to wipe out citizen videotapes of police misdeeds, Metcalfe vowed that his administration would be "transparent" and he would "do the right thing."

"Our officers will be held accountable," said Metcalfe, who became chief of the 2,400-member force in January.

He told the Sun in an interview yesterday that he "truly" believes all police should be "held to a higher standard."

"We hold the public accountable for what they do and we're going to hold ourselves accountable for what we do," he said.

"You cannot charge some kids for having illegal alcohol in the park and then do the same thing yourself a few ours later," Metcalfe said.

"We have the power to take someone's liberty away and we have to take that seriously ... it is a responsible job and I want everyone to take a responsible approach to it."

Internal affairs is probing allegations by two young men that they were chased, beaten and threatened after they videotaped about 20 cops drinking noisily near their Erin Mills Rd. and Fifth Line townhouse.

The probe into the videotape incident began immediately after Mississauga lawyer Bill Bain called to complain about the alleged assaults and threats on his clients, Richard Cimpoesu, 24, and Orlando Canizalez, 21, Metcalfe said,

"There is a certain amount of embarrassment down there (at 11 Division). It is not a happy place. They know they are going to have to work harder to get the public confidence back," he said.

"You do so many good things and then something like this happens and overshadows the good things, almost eliminates them, which is unfortunate," Metcalfe said.

Allegations of police drinking in other Mississauga locations will also be probed.

The Sun reported last week the admissions of an ex-Peel cop who confirmed anonymously that he not only took part in 11 Division boozing, but also in after-shift parties at several baseball diamonds and parks.










26th September 2006 05:11 PM
Fiji Joe It has no business in high school...
26th September 2006 05:18 PM
pdog
quote:
Fiji Joe wrote:
It has no business in high school...



Blow jobs and lap dances are strictly for after school!
26th September 2006 05:29 PM
sirmoonie We will lose this war, much like we lost the War on Drugs.
26th September 2006 07:49 PM
stonedinaustralia wasn't sure about this bit

quote:
Ten Thousand Motels wrote:
According to...urbandictionary.com, “freak dancing” consists of a female placing her clothed buttocks onto the zipper area of a man’s pants. “Then, she vibrates vigorously and the authorities appear.”




the authorities??

what?? - do the police turn up (presumably with sirens wailing) or does he just blow in his trousers??
26th September 2006 08:00 PM
Saint Sway Kevin Bacon will save the day!
26th September 2006 08:04 PM
Sir Stonesalot What a bunch of dumbasses.

So now the kids will organize their own parties...and will drink copious amounts of booze, ingest all sorts of chemicals, and "freak dance" naked in the back of Mom's minivan.

Smooth move Mr. Principal.
26th September 2006 08:25 PM
Brainbell Jangler
quote:
Fiji Joe wrote:
It has no business in high school...


Please tell me you're not serious. If you are, you have no idea what rock'n'roll is all about.

Welcome back to the Fifties.
26th September 2006 08:40 PM
mrhipfl I'll take grinding over skanking any day.

Skanking...
26th September 2006 09:04 PM
pdog
quote:
mrhipfl wrote:
I'll take grinding over skanking any day.



Back in my day, skanking was something done to punk/ska music... And that was not it! All I saw was a version of the metal pit done lamely...

This is a bit better... IMO! Maybe it looks the same, but I know the difference, having experienced it. Nothing is as fun as being a teenager, seeing a great punk rock band with close friends and getting rid of all the pent up aggression.



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