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Topic: Spector trial - hung jury Return to archive
18th September 2007 07:29 PM
Ten Thousand Motels http://www.knbc.com/entertainment/14140585/detail.html
18th September 2007 07:40 PM
fireontheplatter i am not sure what to believe here.

just from hearing others talk about his personality, and just by the way he looks and his actions from the past...i wouldn't put it past him.

he just looks like a wack job. but i guess you can't put someone in jail for life by the way they look.
18th September 2007 07:45 PM
Gazza
quote:
fireontheplatter wrote:
i am not sure what to believe here.

just from hearing others talk about his personality, and just by the way he looks and his actions from the past...i wouldn't put it past him.

he just looks like a wack job. but i guess you can't put someone in jail for life by the way they look.



18th September 2007 07:48 PM
pdog I do like the Ramones album he produced...
So... is a hung jury a bunch of big dicks?
18th September 2007 07:52 PM
fireontheplatter
quote:
Gazza wrote:






no way...richard simmons did it?
18th September 2007 07:55 PM
Left Shoe Shuffle But - his hair did get convicted of manslaughter.

18th September 2007 08:18 PM
sirmoonie Is Southern California even part of the U.S.?

O.J. walks, Blake was not guilty because hey, he was going back INTO the restaurant to get his gun when someone mysteriously shot his wife in the parking lot, the Mendendez bros don't even bother denying murder (that's where they blew it - should have said it was the cops that done did it) and get at least one mistrial, and the ultimate oxymoronicalism - murderous rioting gangs use the mob defense to get off with beating RO's own Reginald D.

But Paris Hilton get 30 days for driving on a suspended license.
18th September 2007 08:30 PM
Left Shoe Shuffle
quote:
sirmoonie wrote:
Is Southern California even part of the U.S.?

O.J. walks

And now Ol' Orenthal is gonna test jurisprudence in Nevada.

Bet he was just doing "research" for his next book.
20th September 2007 05:54 AM
Bovine49
quote:
sirmoonie wrote:
Is Southern California even part of the U.S.?


No, that and Florida are part of Latin America and should be sold back to Spain.
20th September 2007 09:18 PM
Ten Thousand Motels Jury in Spector trial resume deliberations after key ruling
4 hours ago

LOS ANGELES, United States (AFP) — Jurors in the Phil Spector murder trial renewed their attempts to reach a verdict on Thursday, two days after telling court officials deliberations were deadlocked.

The nine-man three-woman panel retired at around 3:15 pm (2215 GMT), after trial Judge Larry Paul Fidler withdrew a key part of his original instructions that had caused confusion, possibly contributing to the impasse.

Spector, 67, the reclusive genius whose "Wall of Sound" recording technique revolutionised the music industry in the 1960s, is accused of murdering B-movie actress Lana Clarkson at his home in February 2003.

Jurors in the five-month trial indicated on Tuesday that they were split 7-5 and said there was no chance of them being able to reach a decision, raising the possibility of a hung jury.

But in a highly unusual move, Fidler removed a clause which said that to convict Spector, jurors needed to be sure he had held a gun directly to Lana Clarkson's mouth before the weapon was fired.

The panel said under questioning on Wednesday they were confused by the precise meaning of the instruction, and Fidler later said that upon reflection it "mis-stated the law" and was an "absolute error."

However Fidler decided against offering jurors the option of finding Spector guilty of the lesser charge of involuntary manslaughter. Spector faces 15 years to life in prison if found guilty of second degree murder.

Legal analysts have said that the decision to withdraw the jury instruction is a boost to prosecutors although it could open the door to an appeal in the event of a guilty verdict.

Jean Rosenbluth, a former prosecutor and law professor at the University of Southern California, said Fidler's decision risked sending a message to jurors that they must reach a verdict.

"It could be seen to be coercive," Rosenbluth told AFP. "If a juror says later that they felt obliged to agree on a verdict because of the judge, then that may form the basis of an appeal for a new trial."

Prosecution and defense lawyers spent much of Thursday arguing about the precise wording of Fidler's amended instruction, before it was simply removed altogether.

Jurors deliberated until 4:00 pm before being dismissed for the day. They will resume deliberations on Friday.

If the deadlock continues and a mistrial is declared, prosecutors would have the option of retrying Spector, offering him a plea deal or dropping the case.

Spector pioneered the "Wall of Sound" recording technique during the 1960s and is regarded as one of the most influential figures in music history.
21st September 2007 09:45 PM
tumbled so what happened today....

By Michael Muskal, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
September 22, 2007
Jurors in the Phil Spector murder trial today ended their ninth day of deliberation without a verdict despite being given new instructions designed to break a 7-5 deadlock that threw the celebrity trial into a tizzy.

The jury of nine men and three women told the court Tuesday morning that they were deadlocked. Superior Court Judge Larry Paul Fidler, prosecutors and the defense team then needed parts of three days to craft new language and instructions. The judge also withdrew one instruction that the jurors said gave them problems.




Jurors began the current round of deliberations Thursday afternoon and will resume work Monday morning.

Spector, 67, is charged with shooting Lana Clarkson, 40, on Feb. 3, 2003. If convicted, he faces 15 years to life in prison.

It is not unusual for a jury to have questions about the evidence or how to interpret the legal instructions that are supposed to guide their deliberations. But the wrangling in recent days has been unusual because it came after the jury said it was deadlocked.

The problem some jurors said they had was with the language of Special Instruction No. 3. The instruction included a misstatement of what is required for a conviction of second-degree murder, Fidler said.

Jurors were asked to agree that Spector pointed the gun at Clarkson and that the act led to the gun entering Clarkson's mouth and eventually discharging. But not all jurors agreed with that version of events.

The new instruction outlines several other possible scenarios for what took place that morning in Spector's Alhambra mansion.

The new instruction tells the jury that Spector is guilty if he committed "an act with a firearm that caused the death of Lana Clarkson, such as:

"a. Placing the gun in her mouth or forcing her to place the gun in her mouth, at which time it discharged;

"b. Pointing the gun at/or against her head, at which time it entered her mouth and discharged;

"c. Pointing the gun at her to prevent her from leaving his house, causing a struggle which resulted in the gun entering her mouth and discharging.

"By using these examples I am not suggesting that any of these acts took place," Fidler said. "These are inferences you may draw from the evidence but are not required to do so. You may reject them."

Despite that warning, most observers agree that the new instructions are broader than the original, giving the jury more leeway to convict.

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Staff writers Peter Y. Hong and John Spano contributed to this report.

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