| 6th September 2006 03:54 PM |
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| GimmeExile |
MODERN TIMES - 192,000 units sold in the opening week...It's the first time Dylan has had a number one album in 30 years! |
| 6th September 2006 03:56 PM |
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| jb |
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GimmeExile wrote:
MODERN TIMES - 192,000 units sold in the opening week...It's the first time Dylan has had a number one album in 30 years!
Exactly why I was so pissed with 40 Licks coming in at #2 with 350k units!!! Dylan will get great PR even though the sales #'s are quite low-it was the timing of the release!!! The Stones fucked up as Elvis' #1 was out that week....we could have also had a last #1 |
| 6th September 2006 04:21 PM |
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| mrhipfl |
ABB debuted at #1 in the states didn't it? |
| 6th September 2006 04:24 PM |
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| jb |
quote:
mrhipfl wrote:
ABB debuted at #1 in the states didn't it?
LOL!!! NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 6th September 2006 04:47 PM |
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| Soldatti |
quote:
mrhipfl wrote:
ABB debuted at #1 in the states didn't it?
Last Stones #1 album: Tattoo You. |
| 6th September 2006 05:44 PM |
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| mrhipfl |
SYDNEY, AU. (EMI MUSIC AUSTRALIA) - The Rolling Stones' A Bigger Bang has made a massive first week impact on the charts with nearly two million albums already shipped across the globe!
In what is looking to be The Stones' biggest studio album in over a decade, international chart positions for the new album included:
UK No 2 (only 11 album sales behind No 1)
USA No 3
AUSTRALIA No 4
Other charts included No 3 in Japan and No 1 in Holland and Italy.
It was close though |
| 6th September 2006 08:00 PM |
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| glencar |
Howe many "units" did ABB sell its first week in the USA? |
| 6th September 2006 08:13 PM |
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| Soldatti |
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glencar wrote:
Howe many "units" did ABB sell its first week in the USA?
128,705
Kanye West was #1 with 283k, 50 Cent was #2 with 154k |
| 6th September 2006 08:18 PM |
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| glencar |
Extremely weak! |
| 6th September 2006 08:39 PM |
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| GimmeExile |
quote:
Soldatti wrote:
128,705
Kanye West was #1 with 283k, 50 Cent was #2 with 154k
Wow, even Bruce Springsteen's "Seeger Sessions" sold more copies than ABB opening week! |
| 6th September 2006 08:48 PM |
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| glencar |
That shouldn't be taken as a reflection on the quality of ABB which is, of course, first rate. |
| 6th September 2006 09:00 PM |
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| Martha |
Mick and Keith should ge back into the studio as soon as they rest up from the tour....and start right from where "Back of My Hand" left off....even if the Stones don't tour any longer they could still make records.
Great ones perhaps.
:-) |
| 6th September 2006 09:03 PM |
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| Martha |
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glencar wrote:
That shouldn't be taken as a reflection on the quality of ABB which is, of course, first rate.
Agreed!!!!
Starting from there.......blues us Ronnie!
I've been listening to early Stones CD's in between Bob's latest delivery, sprinkled with a bite of Creedence all day to soothe my nerves. They all mix quite well.
:-) |
| 6th September 2006 09:04 PM |
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| gimmekeef |
quote:
Martha wrote:
Mick and Keith should ge back into the studio as soon as they rest up from the tour....and start right from where "Back of My Hand" left off....even if the Stones don't tour any longer they could still make records.
Great ones perhaps.
:-)
They need to go back to making records for themselves....not us or the "public"....ABB was a start... |
| 6th September 2006 09:19 PM |
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| PartyDoll MEG |
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gimmekeef wrote:
They need to go back to making records for themselves....not us or the "public"....ABB was a start...
I agree...somehow I think they may have forgotten how!!! |
| 6th September 2006 10:10 PM |
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| Soldatti |
quote:
Martha wrote:
Mick and Keith should ge back into the studio as soon as they rest up from the tour....and start right from where "Back of My Hand" left off....even if the Stones don't tour any longer they could still make records.
Add "get a decent record company" in the list. |
| 6th September 2006 11:04 PM |
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| Sir Stonesalot |
>ABB was a start...<
Yeah...a start of a turd coming out of Mick's Adult Contemporary Pop ass.
How's about they go back to making ROCK & ROLL...instead of the cheesey lame-ass crap they're trying to pawn off on us.
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| 12th September 2006 07:12 PM |
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| GimmeExile |
Any predictions for Modern Times week two sales? |
| 12th September 2006 07:27 PM |
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| texile |
dylan has that iconic, enigmatic mystery thing going on in the public's mind -
the stones have lost that from overexposure and commercialism.
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| 12th September 2006 07:38 PM |
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| glencar |
Modern Times is more adult contemporary than ABB ever could be. |
| 12th September 2006 08:08 PM |
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| Soldatti |
quote:
GimmeExile wrote:
Any predictions for Modern Times week two sales?
Down 3-5 in UK with 30k sold (85k total)
Down 1-3 in US with 120k sold (312k total)
ABB drop in week 2: 2-13 (UK), 3-12 (US) |
| 12th September 2006 08:21 PM |
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| GimmeExile |
quote:
Soldatti wrote:
Down 3-5 in UK with 30k sold (85k total)
Down 1-3 in US with 120k sold (312k total)
ABB drop in week 2: 2-13 (UK), 3-12 (US)
Thank you! Are these numbers official? I thought they weren't published until Wednesday. |
| 12th September 2006 09:20 PM |
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| Soldatti |
The UK number is official, US numbers are not official yet. |
| 12th September 2006 09:29 PM |
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| Gazza |
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jb wrote:
Exactly why I was so pissed with 40 Licks coming in at #2 with 350k units!!! Dylan will get great PR even though the sales #'s are quite low-it was the timing of the release!!! The Stones fucked up as Elvis' #1 was out that week....we could have also had a last #1
yeah but to Dylan's credit he accomplished it with an album of new material. Its less of a feat to do so with a compilation. They should still have outsold Elvis, who has released more compilations and repackages than Bill Wyman has had girlfriends. This was the first ever Stones compilation to cover their entire career. Plus, they were on tour, whereas Elvis was still somewhat dead.
128,000 and #2 for the first new Stones album in 8 years - at a time when theyre selling out STADIUMS despite the highet ticket prices ever - is a serious commercial underachievement |
| 12th September 2006 11:29 PM |
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| GimmeExile |
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Gazza wrote:
They should still have outsold Elvis, who has released more compilations and repackages than Bill Wyman has had girlfriends.
Gazza, I love your one-liners! |
| 13th September 2006 12:15 PM |
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| F505 |
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texile wrote:
dylan has that iconic, enigmatic mystery thing going on in the public's mind -
the stones have lost that from overexposure and commercialism.
Best post of the month! |
| 13th September 2006 12:20 PM |
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| GimmeExile |
After crowning the chart for the first time in 30 years last week, Bob Dylan's "Modern Times" (Columbia) slides to No. 3 with 128,000, a sales hit of 33%.
-- Billboard |
| 13th September 2006 02:33 PM |
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| glencar |
Can he make it back to the top? |
| 13th September 2006 05:37 PM |
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| GimmeExile |
No Longer the Loneliest Number
On the Billboard Charts These Days, It's Crowded at the Top
By J. Freedom du Lac
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, September 13, 2006
Bob Dylan has seen better days. Yesterday, for instance, when the craggy rock poet was No. 1 -- and had the Billboard chart to prove it. But by the time you read this, Dylan's marvelous new album, "Modern Times," will be ancient history, having been booted out of the top slot on the magazine's weekly sales chart by Beyonce's "B'Day." (Could it be that the folk legend was obsessing over the wrong hip-hop/soul starlet when he sang about his Alicia Keys fixation on "Modern Times"?)
Although it may have been startling to see a Dylan album at No. 1 for the first time in 30 years -- 1976's "Desire" was his last -- it was all but inevitable that this week would feature a fresh face in the penthouse suite. In a period of unprecedented churn atop Billboard's U.S. album chart, nearly every week brings a new No. 1.
The charts, they are a-changin'.
So far this year there have been 28 different chart-toppers -- including Beyonce's, which will officially be declared the new No. 1 today. (Billboard, a trade publication, works ahead of the actual calendar, so the chart will be dated Sept. 23.)
That's more chart-toppers than 1992 and 1993 combined, when 27 different albums reached No. 1 over two years. Last year brought 36 No. 1 albums. Oh, those fickle music fans!
"There's been a lot of turnover," says Geoff Mayfield, director of charts for Billboard, which has published an album-sales scorecard since 1955.
There are multiple reasons behind the instability at the top of the Billboard 200, as the chart is officially known. For one thing, album sales continue to decline (they're off by about 7 percent this year), and the threshold for reaching No. 1 is dropping accordingly. In fact, in July, Johnny Cash reached the top slot for the first time in 37 years with the posthumous album "American V: A Hundred Highways," despite selling just 88,000 copies in its first week of release. It was the lowest-selling No. 1 debut since Nielsen SoundScan began tracking album sales in 1991.
There's also a newfound, Hollywood-style emphasis on acts opening big, as with the movies. Marketing campaigns -- particularly for CDs from popular, youth-skewing artists -- are geared to immediate, out-of-the-box success.
"There's more and more pressure on the first week," says Greg McCarn, vice president of marketing for Lyric Street Records, home to country-pop chart-toppers Rascal Flatts. "That first week speaks to the health of your fan base. Have you been able to maintain or expand your fan base since the last record? Or have you seen some deterioration? We've seen that first week become increasingly important over the last few years."
SoundScan, the sales-tracking outfit, has also been a contributor to the churn by its mere presence. Between 1983 and 1984, when Michael Jackson's "Thriller" spent a combined 37 weeks at No. 1, just 10 albums reached the top of the charts. In the early 1960s, the "West Side Story" soundtrack owned the top slot for a combined 54 weeks, a record. But all of that happened in the pre-SoundScan era, when Billboard used sales estimates to determine chart rankings. Fifteen years ago, the magazine began to rely on SoundScan's point-of-sale data. "There probably should have been more number-ones pre-SoundScan, but we didn't have specific sales data," Mayfield says.
But most significantly, he says, the major record labels have held back many of their biggest releases for the fourth quarter -- the music industry's busiest sales period of the year. As such, there haven't been any blockbuster albums squatting at No. 1: No "Bodyguard" soundtrack, no Usher's "Confessions" or Santana's "Supernatural" or any of the other runaway hits that sell by the truckload.
The closest thing from 2006: "Me and My Gang," the latest power-balladeering album from Rascal Flatts. The CD spent three consecutive weeks at No. 1 in the spring and may wind up as the year's best-selling title, with 2.3 million copies sold so far. Yet it's hardly been a monster smash along the lines of Billy Ray Cyrus's "Some Gave All," which spent 17 consecutive weeks at No. 1 in 1992.
"There really hasn't been a mainstream pop album to act as a pied piper in the first eight months, and that's been one of the biggest complaints among record retailers," Mayfield says. "What if Beyonce's album had come out earlier in the year? What if the same songs that resulted in 600,000 in sales in the first week were released in February or March? That kind of record could have been number one for a while."
Instead, the eight album charts from February and March featured eight different No. 1's, from Il Divo's "Ancora" and Barry Manilow's "Greatest Songs of the Fifties" to Juvenile's "Reality Check" and Jaheim's "Ghetto Classics."
Still, it only seems like everybody's going No. 1 these days. It remains exclusive company, of course, with only 52 opportunities per year. And a No. 1 album is still a No. 1 album, indicating that this particular title ("Danity Kane") or that one ("LeToya") has outsold the field in a given week.
For the chart dated July 8, that album was "Loose," by the Canadian pop star Nelly Furtado. And it was a Very Big Deal indeed for Furtado, who had never before been No. 1 on the U.S. charts.
"From an industry perspective, you want to be at number one because it's sort of an indicator of pop-culture acceptance," says Furtado's manager, Chris Smith. "Nelly had always visualized herself in that position, so she didn't actually want to hear about the chart. She wanted to see it. . . .
"It might be easier to go to number one now, because the [sales] numbers are lower, but remember they're lower for everybody. It's like a race where everybody is walking. You still have to walk faster or else you won't cross the finish line first. On the easiest week ever, I'd hate to be 10th. You want to be number one. There's only one number one, and that week it was Nelly."
Says Lyric Street's McCarn: "It's absolutely a big, big deal, and it still matters."
And so it's big news that Dylan, at 65, is -- or rather was -- back on top. His triumphant return to No. 1 was partly a gift of scheduling ("Modern Times" was released between a series of major pop records) and partly a result of the artist availing himself to his fans through a memoir, a satellite radio show and his participation in Martin Scorsese's documentary "No Direction Home." Glowing reviews of "Modern Times" certainly didn't hurt. Nor did Dylan's starring role in a widely broadcast TV commercial for Apple's iPod.
But we're sooo over him. Beyonce, too. It's all about next week's chart, on which Justin Timberlake's "FutureSex/LoveSounds" is expected to debut at No. 1. Just don't tell JT himself -- though that's exactly what we did, in a conference call with him and a bunch of writers. Jinx, Justin!
"Well, don't say anything because, you know, I've made it this far with no one really making any predictions in my ear," Timberlake said before admitting that he's looking out for No. 1. "No one puts a record out to say, 'I hope this goes straight to number two.' I think everyone wants to be number one."
© 2006 The Washington Post Company |
| 13th September 2006 08:08 PM |
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| Soldatti |
The charts now are very different from 15-20 years ago, with few exceptions the albums are falling like a stone after the first week. |
