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| jb |
Kath51-this is a different fromat than shidoobee...a lot of non-stones topics are permitted. There is also a certain amount of profanity permitted, which even you seem to enjoy engaging in. I thought we had reapproachment..I have refrained from anything offensive on shidoobee...yet, you , a newcomer to this board, have sought to go out of your way to attack my posts, inane as there are. I am disappointed in you and find you actions very hypocritical. I expected better from you, and I am hurt by your attacks. Jesus said "hate the sin, love the sinner", or something like that....I still love you kath51 ....but I hate what you have done to me.... |
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| kath |
please don't quote jesus to me, josh. that's just nauseating. you told me in chat that you had essentially made up this person you claim to be (except, of course, the lawyer part). i wondered why you chose to pretend to be somebody so annoying. be that as it may, we reached a tentative truce. but you keep doing it. on shidoobee and here. here you seem to have found a place where people aren't as...er....put out, by the shit that you shovel. but josh...to actually brag about adultry, to herald yourself for posting 5000 fuckin times on one board..to say shit like "arnie butt fucks his wife"...i mean my gawd, josh!!
fine. post your little heart out. say all the irritating crap you can possibly say. do it here and on shidoobee and any place else you wanna. but remember that what's important in life is that you have respect and that you are respected. people finding your posts amusing is a dandy thing, but it's not real. respect is real. and i, for one, have no respect for you as a person. that's assuming you are what you claim you are. so if you've made up this identity of a wealthy, obnoxious, self absorbed adulterer, you've succeeded in losing any respect i might have had for you if you had been just you.
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| jb |
I understand how you feel but I still think you are overreacting to my posts. We have a truce on shidoobee and I have not violated it. I have no ill will towards you or anyone for that matter(well maybe jaggarichards, McQueen, Lucad4 and a few others), and I am sorry that you don't respect me. To me, the only 2 people who I need to set an example for are my 7 and 10 year old boys....I think I've done a pretty good job and have insulated them from many of the personal issues I have gone through. |
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| Sir Stonesalot |
What the fuck is wrong with you people?
Kath....jb can post anything he wants. If you don't like it fine, you have tons of company. I got an EASY solution for you. DON'T READ HIS POSTS.
Why people get all twisted up about what jb posts just baffles me. I can guarantee that jb isn't what he seems to be here. jb is just Josh's board character...just like SS is my board character. If you don't like the character, don't watch the movie.
But you can't have a good movie without conflict...without a bad guy. A board where everything is wine & roses is BORING. I like having jb around. He does this place a good service by being the whippin' boy. C'mon, you have to admit, you get a kick out of bashing away at him. Why else would you come over here and start shit with him?
You like it.
If I am wrong, and you really DON'T like jousting with jb...then why in God's name are you here wasting your time doing it? Trust me, we don't need your protection from the likes of jb.
For the record Kath, you seem pretty sharp. I think you'd fit in really well around here. If you can keep from letting jb get your panties in a bunch every 2 minutes that is.... |
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| KeithRichards210 |
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I understand how you feel but I still think you are overreacting to my posts. We have a truce on shidoobee and I have not violated it. I have no ill will towards you or anyone for that matter(well maybe jaggarichards, McQueen, Lucad4 and a few others), and I am sorry that you don't respect me. To me, the only 2 people who I need to set an example for are my 7 and 10 year old boys....I think I've done a pretty good job and have insulated them from many of the personal issues I have gone through.
How about those Stones, eh? |
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| jb |
I think, as usual, SS sumed it up very well. We all are "characters" to a greater or lesser extent here. It is what makes this place fun. |
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| Mother baby |
"Gary Coleman (news) is "displeased" by a Website hawking T-shirts, mugs, mousepads and thongs commemorating the Diff'rent Strokes star's run for governor, his rep says. Keeping his eye on the prize, the former child star is scheduled to discuss his vision for California Friday on CNN's Crossfire."
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| kath |
"To me, the only 2 people who I need to set an example for are my 7 and 10 year old boys"
you and mick....
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| kath |
sir stonesalot:
"Kath....jb can post anything he wants. If you don't like it fine, you have tons of company. I got an EASY solution for you. DON'T READ HIS POSTS.
Why people get all twisted up about what jb posts just baffles me. I can guarantee that jb isn't what he seems to be here. jb is just Josh's board character...just like SS is my board character. If you don't like the character, don't watch the movie."
of course, you are absolutely right. josh, aka mr lawyer aka scrotum (the most appropriate of all his board names) just irritates the living hell outta me. i just sort of wish he would pick a personality from his vast "cast of characters" and stick with it.
meanwhile, as kr put it...how 'bout them stones, huh?
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| Cardinal Fang |
This is a "four way" response !!
parmeda !!! Sweetheart, I KNOW you are going to have your world rocked tonight !! I know you'll have fun !!
mac_daddy !!! Yeah, you and I WILL hook up !! I do make it down to LA. I've got friends in Hollywood, Westwood, Redondo Beach, Downey, Anahiem. So take your pick my friend !!!
Joe-SKI (M.M.) !!!! "Pierced Hoods ?!?!?!?!" What a memory you've got Bro !! Yeah, I'll introduce you to Evette. She loves to "meat" new guys all of the time. I'll even see if you two can use the houseboat !! Of course you have to come out to NorCal though !! (J.W.)
" Actually , I really do believe that my Baby Steelie DID go to the Netherlands .......................or was that the Netherworld ??????????????????????? "
Yeah and I've got some swamp land in East Omaha I would love to sell you !!!
P.S. JOE JOE JOE JOE JOE JOE JOE JOE JOE JOE JOE JOE (how do you do this all the time ???)
And last but NOT LEAST.............
LISTEN to Sir Stonesalot. He is a VERY wise man !!!!
Now I Gotta Jet
Later, Cardinal Fang
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| Joey |
" Introduce you to Evette. She loves to "meat" new guys all of the time. I'll even see if you two can use the houseboat !! Of course you have to come out to NorCal though !! (J.W.) "
Some day my Brother ...........................
Some Day for sure !
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| Factory Girl |
"we're all characters mouthing our lines."
what solo Jagger song is that from? |
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| Joey |
" what solo Jagger song is that from? "
Eminence Front -- It's a Put On !
Bullshit !!! Bullshit !!!!
Jacky !
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| JaggaRichards |
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"To me, the only 2 people who I need to set an example for are my 7 and 10 year old boys"
you and mick....
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| Cardinal Fang |
For those who care,
According to a poll that will appear in tomorrows Sacramento Bee:
Lt Gov. Cruiz Bustamante 35 percent
"Ahrnolt" 22 percent
Hasta La Vista Arnold.
Right now the Recall/Keep Gov. Davis poll is still only 45 percent Yes, 50 percent No. (Davis only needs 50 percent to stay in office)
Davis could still stay in office.
As I already predicted, Arnold should start looking for another "blow 'em up" movie to do or something.
Later, Cardinal Fang |
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| lonecrapshooter |
Throbby- that's a great picure...what book is that in?
Pumping Iron was great! They took the weed footage in a new release so get the unedited version/. |
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| mac_daddy |
Schwarzenegger challenged over old interview
Actor seen as waffling over discussion of drugs, group sex
Carla Marinucci, Lance Williams, Chronicle Staff Writers Saturday, August 30, 2003
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Arnold Schwarzenegger was asked on Wednesday by a conservative radio host to talk about his racy 1977 Oui magazine interview -- detailing drug use and group sex. The GOP gubernatorial candidate responded with a laugh, "I never lived my life to be a politician. I never lived my life to be the governor of California."
"Obviously, I've made statements that were ludicrous and crazy and outrageous and all those things, because that's the way I always was," he said.
A day later, he was asked about it at a press conference. "I have no idea what you're talking about," he told reporters. "I have no memory of any of the articles I did 20 or 30 years ago."
With six weeks to go to the Oct. 7 election, the apparent about face by Schwarzenegger and the coverage of the 1977 interview by a then 29-year-old bodybuilder on television and in newspapers this week underscored the challenges ahead for the political neophyte. It also highlights the dramatic difference between the entertainment world and the brutal world of politics -- particularly in a high-pressure, short gubernatorial campaign managed in the glare of an international spotlight.
"When you're a Hollywood celebrity, people can intrude in your private life and you have no obligation to answer," said Bruce Cain, political science professor at UC Berkeley. "But if you're running for public office, it becomes an issue of character."
Cain says the pressure is now on Schwarzenegger to address the issue with frankness because "at least a quarter of the electorate make their decision on those (character) issues completely. And when you're a candidate who is rather vague on the issues and saying 'trust me,' then character becomes all that more critical."
Claremont-McKenna College government professor Jack Pitney said the stumble underscores the unforgiving nature of California politics, where "a slight semantic error can lead to a week full of bad publicity. And in a five-week campaign, you can't afford a week of bad publicity."
"It's the kind of mistake that a politician would ordinarily make in a run for state assembly," Pitney said. "Other politicians make their early mistakes out of the limelight. He's making them in the limelight, and under a microscope."
Political analyst Sherry Bebitch Jeffe said Schwarzenegger's flip-flop is particularly newsworthy because it comes from a candidate who is both communications-savvy, and surrounded by veterans consultants.
"This could have been a one day story, and it was all in the hands of Arnold Schwarzenegger. And he dropped the ball," Bebitch Jeffe said. "It's the equivalent of, 'I can't hear you, Matt,' " the response Schwarzenegger gave to "Today" show host Matt Lauer's query if he would release his taxes.
Now, Bebitch Jeffe said, the actor-candidate appears to be establishing "a pattern of behavior" in which he says one thing, and does another. "It's waffling," she said.
The interview that ignited the controversy appeared in the now-defunct men's magazine Oui. In recent weeks, the 26-year-old interview has been widely distributed on the Internet on sites like the Drudge Report and www.thesmokinggun.com. The question-and-answer session was pegged to the release of "Pumping Iron," the 1977 bodybuilding documentary that rocketed the young Austrian to stardom.
In the article, Schwarzenegger acknowledged using "grass and hash -- no hard drugs" and described in detail participating in group sex with bodybuilders at Gold's Gym in Venice.
In an interview on Sacramento radio station KFBK last Wednesday, talk show host Mark Williams specifically asked Schwarzenegger about the Oui article, which had just been posted on the Internet.
"Obviously, I've made statements that were ludicrous and crazy and outrageous and all those things, because that's the way I always was," he said.
"I was always that way" he said, "because otherwise I wouldn't have done the things that I did in my career, including the bodybuilding and the show business and all those things."
But 24 hours later, the candidate -- in response to reporters' questions -- said repeatedly he did not remember the interview and refused to comment on it.
Campaign spokesman Rob Stutzman -- asked to explain the different responses -- said that Schwarzenegger "does not recall, specifically, a specific interview he gave 25 years ago."
"He came out there prepared to talk about what he was going to do in Fresno,
prepared to talk about the (agricultural) economy," Stutzman said Friday. Asked if the candidate had seen the Oui postings, Stutzman said, "he has not seen it. I don't know if he will see it. Californians should rest assured their next governor doesn't sit around surfing Drudge."
Asked if Schwarzenegger had been prepared for potential questions on the topic by reporters, Stutzman said, "I'm not going to get into the campaign process." But, he added, "This campaign is proactive, not reactive. And every effort by Democratic operatives to create an atmosphere of 'puke politics,' -- to quote (Attorney General) Bill Lockyer -- will be something we ignore."
Cain of UC Berkeley said that in such a high level campaign, strategists certainly play a role -- nearly as important as the candidate. "We know all the consultants, and we know they know all the tricks. The (question) is: They do coach them?"
But, he says, no matter how good the advice, the candidate makes the decision on how to address issues -- or whether to punt. "I doubt it's possible that the staff people didn't give him the full truth," he said. "But it's also possible they gave him the coaching, and Arnold does what he wants."
But in coming weeks, Schwarzenegger may also have to answer questions about other interviews he's done in the past -- some of them dealing with policy issues rather than personal issues.
In a 1981 interview with Penthouse, Schwarzenegger -- who has come out in favor of gun control -- detailed how he was strongly against gun control, because it "forbids law-abiding citizens from owning guns but doesn't stop the criminals, who can always buy them on the black market."
"Also, there have never been valid statistics to prove that gun control has worked," Schwarzenegger told Penthouse. "There are gun-control laws in Austria and Germany, but more people have guns there than you can imagine. You can get them everywhere on the black market. Gun control isn't the answer. Stiffer punishments are the answer."
Asked about those statements, campaign spokesman Stutzman said Friday, "I don't think anyone's surprised that in the course of 20 years, someone's positions (on issues) has changed. He has stated he supports the current assault weapons ban and the Brady Bill, and wants to close the gun show loophole." |
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| mac_daddy |
Raw Deals
The Times� funny numbers, Sharon Davis� secret memo and a loophole that could help Cruz rake in Indian casino money
by Bill Bradley
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The political machinations and deals in the California recall�s festival of democracy are getting ever more raw. Governor Gray Davis, covertly but not so secretly, is beginning to go against the counsel of his new adviser, former President Bill Clinton, who urged him not to attack Arnold Schwarzenegger. Davis blamed the action superstar�s movies for �much of the violence in America,� a charge that will make it hard for Davis to keep ducking his challenge to debate.
The Weekly learned that Indian casino interests, eager to expand gambling throughout California, have found a gaping loophole in the state�s campaign-finance-reform law through which they can pour several million dollars in big contributions directly into the gubernatorial campaign of their close ally Lieutenant Governor Cruz Bustamante.
Self-styled candidate of substance Peter Ueberroth, the former L.A. Olympics chief, turned up in the capital and easily surpassed the rather vague Schwarzenegger in vagueness. Right-wing state Senator Tom McClintock, scourge of the Sacramento budget debacle, enjoyed fresh attention while Bustamante mostly disappeared from public view for a week after laying out a budget plan that relies on a constitutional amendment for 40 percent of its new revenues and lays out $4.5 billion in cuts that aren�t really cuts.
In the wake of 2002 GOP nominee Bill Simon�s withdrawal, Schwarzenegger is moving to the right to consolidate the Republican vote. The New York Post reported that stars Tom Hanks, Barbra Streisand, Warren Beatty and Martin Sheen are organizing a Hollywood effort to stop Schwarzenegger. Beatty vociferously denied it, telling the Weekly, �That would be crazy. I�m not voting for him, but Arnold is a friend of mine.�
And in one of the week�s more mysterious developments, a Los Angeles Times poll purported to show a big lead for Lieutenant Governor Cruz Bustamante and shrinking support for the recall. The numbers are diametrically opposed to the views of well-informed top Democratic strategists, who are aided by their own polling.
Ignoring the advice of Clinton, his top political adviser, Davis is already attacking Schwarzenegger, in thinly veiled ways.
Davis visibly shied away from Senator Dianne Feinstein�s remarks criticizing the violence in Schwarzenegger�s movies at their press conference last week on the assault-weapons ban. However, the Weekly has obtained an internal Davis campaign memo from first lady Sharon Davis to key Davis supporters in which, among other things, she claims that Arnold Schwarzenegger�s movies are a principal cause of violence in America.
In urging these supporters to complain to the media about their coverage of her husband the governor � including L.A. Times columnists George Skelton and Steve Lopez, who had long opposed the recall but had just written glowingly of Schwarzenegger�s performance at his mini�economic summit and press conference last week at an L.A. airport hotel � she writes, �Another thing you might mention is that much of the violence we experience in this country could be attributed to the extreme violence in his movies.� That�s quite a stretch, to say the least, since it is big news whenever any act of violence is attributed to Hollywood entertainment. It is certainly not a standard that Davis applies to his own supporters, such as veteran Hollywood studio chief Sherry Lansing. Under her leadership, Paramount and Fox produced many movies that could be said to glorify violence; Davis made her a University of California regent.
Last Friday there was a rather curious press conference called to attack Schwarzenegger�s economic views and experience. At first blush, it seemed to be an independent operation, but upon probing it turned out to be organized by the Davis campaign, though nothing on the press release gave it away.
Representing Davis were Assembly Budget Committee chair Jenny Oropeza and investment banker Ted Roth. They both excoriated Schwarzenegger in very general terms as knowing nothing about the economy and the budget or how government works. Oropeza claimed that he obviously intended just to cut programs and to rely on deficit spending, as, in her words, Republicans do at the federal level and which Schwarzenegger obviously doesn�t understand can�t be done in state government. The Weekly pointed out that it had just spent an hour in a conference with Treasurer Phil Angelides in which he discussed his herculean task of selling $18 billion in bonds and notes to finance the current budget. This raises the state�s total bonded indebtedness to at least $65 billion.
Oropeza gave a rather amusing explanation of how the budget got so out of control. She claimed that Assembly Democrats and the governor had not foolishly believed that the increased revenues from the dot-com bubble and stock-market boom would continue in perpetuity. Then she was asked why they continued to add on more spending, what was their plan, did they expect the Republicans to just vote for more taxes. �Yes, we did,� was her answer.
Top Democratic advisers backing the governor were themselves stunned by the weekend�s L.A. Times poll, which found only a narrow lead for the recall and a big lead for Bustamante over Schwarzenegger. These experts had, quite tellingly, just described to the Weekly a very different political environment, replete with serious crepe hanging about the prospects of Davis and Bustamante. The recall, according to these strategists and other polls, remains well ahead, and the race between Schwarzenegger, recovering from a bad week and hampered by several Republicans being in the race, and Bustamante is extremely competitive.
Schwarzenegger�s Rolling Stones�type appearance in Orange County, and the potent conservative fund-raising Lincoln Clubs� endorsement of the actor and call on other Republicans to get out of the race, helped narrow the field.
The ex�Mr. Universe was sanguine about his Republican rivals shortly before Simon dropped out, telling the Weekly that last year�s Republican standard-bearer �is a really nice guy. I think it will work out.�
With McClintock hugging the far-right flank, from which he can get a big vote but cannot win, the only danger to Schwarzenegger in the middle is Ueberroth, who appeared in the capital on Monday. Billing himself as the candidate of substance and pitching his candidacy to newspaper editorialists, he had already run afoul of his own claims, notably that $6 billion could be reaped from a tax-amnesty program, a figure unsupported by any research. In his talk, he said that he would call a special legislative session to pass �one major job-creating bill.� Amazingly, the fabled corporate-turnaround artist would not say what policies he wanted in that bill. �There are a lot of ideas,� he said. �I�m going around the state gathering them. By the time of the special legislative session, we�ll know.� Reminded that he was asking voters to elect him before he called that legislative session and that some clue to what if any economic policy he has would be part of voters� calculus, Ueberroth rambled and stumbled. �The ideas
in the bill will not necessarily be my ideas,� he replied, unhelpfully. �There may be other ideas, better ideas. This has to be a team effort. There is no silver bullet, you know. I want to let solutions come from a process. I will have something to say about solutions before this election is over.�
One solution that is in place is Bustamante�s plan to launder Indian casino money into his gubernatorial campaign in contravention of the seeming $21,200 contribution limit of Proposition 34. According to Fair Political Practices Commission Director Mark Krause, Bustamante can use his old lieutenant-governor campaign committee as a receptacle for massive contributions from the casino tribes by �attributing� portions of these huge new checks to past contributors to the old committee, which is not subject to the Prop. 34 limits, then moving the money directly to the new gubernatorial campaign committee.
For example, he can take the $300,000 a San Diego�area casino tribe gave to him on Monday, match portions of it to previous contributors � up to $21,200 apiece � and then move it to his new gubernatorial committee.
Given the structure of Bustamante�s past fund-raising, he can use this loophole, which Krause calls �an accounting device,� agreed to by the commission when no one was paying attention, to launder several million dollars of casino money directly into his campaign.
It was previously thought that the casino tribes would spend heavily for Bustamante in a so-called �independent expenditure� campaign, which they may do as well. Bustamante�s allegiance to Indian casino interests is clear. He says that far from contributing too little of their burgeoning revenue to the state, they pay too much. In reality, as a result of deals negotiated by Davis and backed by Bustamante, the tribes pay nothing to the state�s reeling general fund.
Bustamante, incidentally, has been mostly off the radar screen for a week since his widely covered budget press conference. Like Schwarzenegger, the veteran politician is receiving policy briefings. He has also been raising money, which had been going very slowly before this innovation with the casino tribes� money.
But that is one deal that may be too raw for Californians tired of clever special-interest politics. |
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| Mother baby |
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| kath |
well, while i am certainly not pro-schwarzennager (thankfully i don't live in california, but still...), i think the stuff from the interviews from the '70's is sort of not fair. i know i behaved very badly in the 1970's, as did a lot of us, and i sure wouldn't want anybody dragging that shit up today if i were interviewing for a job or something.
yeah, it's gonna get a lot nastier i think. i mean a giant and a midget are running for gov and neither one of them knows shit about being a gov. |
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And a Porn king and a porn actress.....dream of Californication. |
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| glencar |
yeah, it's gonna get a lot nastier i think. i mean a giant and a midget are running for gov and neither one of them knows shit about being a gov. (From kath)
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Yeah well, neither does the current governor, apparently. I don't know if Arnold is the answer but Cruz B. seems like an old-style corrupt pol, Davis is a simpletin & no one else is in the running. It's Arnold's by default. Then again, Californians are none too bright. |
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Top Democratic advisers backing the governor were themselves stunned by the weekend�s L.A. Times poll, which found only a narrow lead for the recall and a big lead for Bustamante over Schwarzenegger.
That "L.A. Times" poll was lifted from The Sacramento Bee's poll that I mentioned here about 3 days ago. (about 6 or 7 posts above this one)
I LIVE IN SACRAMENTO. It's really funny for me to see stuff "the night before" that is then all over the street here in Sacto. before noon only to read about it in The New York Times three days later.
To Glencar,
Long time no see ! I hope your statement about "Californian's not being too bright" was a generalization ? A Californian WON the first two rounds of the Rocks Off Trivia contest here. Your prediction about Arnold ain't gonna happen. He is already about 15 points behind. I could make jokes about George Pataki too you know ! One last thing Glen about Grey Davis, He may "look" like a simpleton but don't be fooled. He is an old school, back room deal cutting, career politician who IMO in the past spent too much time working the room at campaign fund raisers instead of working at his job.
The latest "buzz" on the streets of Sacramento is that out of the four scheduled debates, Arnold HAS INSISTED that he will ONLY participate in ONE of them ! (He knows that the more he actually talks, the more his chances go down the toilet) Also starting at the end of this week Grey Davis will start running ads featuring California Senator Dianne Feinstein. For the rest of you in the other 49 states, Feinstein is without a doubt the most popular Democrat here. You could say Davis is pulling out all the stops.
I'm sure you will read about what I just said three days from now in some publication ?
I'll be glad when all of this shit is over.
Later, Cardinal Fang
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I hear you, Cardinal F. - I was a bit late with the news articles. Of course I read your posts (and enjoyed them quite much, thank you); the LA Weekly article (that came out last Thursday) was the one of real interest...
It is looking (to this observer, at least), that the recall might not even happen. And if it does, I see Bustamante winning...
By any chance, did you see McLintock (sp) on Bill Maher's show last night?
Davis went to the same School of Charisma that Al Gore attended. Jesus, you wonder how they made it this far. Davis and I went to the same high school, though years apart. Now I am quite aware of who many of the past alums are, and of their current roles around here, but I had no idea that Gray went there until two months ago. The guys I know who were classmates of his think he is a money-grubbing a$$hole, and that includes the guy who subsequently became his college roomate. That is the kind of guy Gray is: most don't really notice him, some have a visceral reaction to the guy, but everybody agrees that he is one shrewd dude, and my money says he probably stays in office.
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I am not even going to dignify the CA bashing with a formal response; but suffice it to say - if it happens again, the gloves are coming off... |
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LOL Cardinal, I was thinking you'd say something about NYErs being "none-too-bright" because of Hillary(sic) but I guess Pataki'll serve the purpose. Gray Davis is a barroom brawler. I saw some bit on TV where he compared Feinstein to Leona Helmsley. It's funny that she'll now do that ad. Party above all.
Nice job on that quiz. I haven't been around much lately (no reason, really) so I only caught the last quiz but you did well.
To macdiddy: I don't believe I've seen you around here but it helps to have a sense of humor. I often make fun of the French & they get upset but I'm surprised to see a touchy American. My humblest apology.
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| Mother baby |
Yeah...Hillary NY, Feinstien CA, Charlie Shumer NY and Durbin wherever he's from.....The Vitamin Police!
(no I'd better not say that...LOL)
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Maybe Arnold's orgies are more interesting than his politics.
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| glencar |
Durbin's from Illinois. I'll withhold further editorial comment on Chicagoans... |
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| Cardinal Fang |
mac_daddy !!!
>"By any chance, did you see McLintock (sp) on Bill Maher's show last night?<"
NO !!! Man, I wish I would've caught that !! I bet Maher tore him a new one ???
I just found out Arnold was at a rally about a mile in a half from my house about 5 hours ago. Wish I could've went to heckle him. Damn !!! (Talk about cheap thrills !!!)
F.Y.I. The first debate (the only one with Arnold) will be televised in a day or so on Wednesday at 4:00 pm (our time)
The rest of the other 49 states, be prepared for some interesting SOUNDBITES !
I'll set the VCR because at that time I will be in transit to go to a "pre" Sex Pistols party in S.F. for the Pistols/Rev. Horton Heat/Dropkick Murphys show at the Warfield Wednesday night. (Jonesy is an old friend)
With Arnold's involvement in this debate it should be (unintentionally) FUCKING HYSTERICAL !!! Let's hope Arnold learns his lines, "I Won't be BACKKKK".
>"Nice job on that quiz. I haven't been around much lately (no reason, really) so I only caught the last quiz but you did well."<
THANK'S GLEN !!!! Hang around a while too won't ya !!!
Later, Cardinal Fang
P.S. I just found out Stones73 just had a baby !!!
CONGRATULATIONS !!!
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Crotchless panties are not as great as they are made out to be. |
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