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Topic: Why "Dirty Work" is always forgotten? Return to archive Page: 1 2 3 4
08-07-03 07:26 PM
Gazza >I can't believe nobody hear mentioned the title track yet.

T&A did!! he liked it!

>It's one of the down&dirtiest songs they've ever done. It runs circles around any rockers done since then. I'd cream if they did this in one of my future concert viewings

remind me to stand well clear of you in Dublin just in case!!! Especially if youve been waiting 17 years for it!
08-08-03 01:08 AM
ianbillen
quote:
glencar wrote:
I can't believe nobody hear mentioned the title track yet. It's one of the down&dirtiest songs they've ever done. It runs circles around any rockers done since then. I'd cream if they did this in one of my future concert viewings.



I mentioned it and I kinda like it too "Dirty work= isn't bad either"

I like the Rock as was said, The roll isn't so much there as was also said. That was we'll put.
It isn't an embarrassment of an album though.
It just isn't in the Top Ten Stones Albums.
Creativity was lacking but the angry attitude the flowed over into the album is really cool to listen too.
I just can't beleive nobody mentioned "Fight"
I like that tune. It really Kicks you in the Balls with absolutely no conscience or remorse. Listen to the razor guitars and lyrics. How ruthless.
Hey you know "It's all for the greater glory" then Mick says in kind of a what the hell type mode "it's all for a Saturday Night". It is kinda funny because he's talking about smashing someones face in just out with the boys.
"Splatter matter on the bloody ceiling"
That's correct because if you have ever been in a place with low ceilings and there was an all out and out smash up fist fight with alot of people there is actually blood on the ceiling in certain instances. That makes one say...God, there is even splats of blood on the ceiling...what the hell kinda blows were those boys throwing. I am not into violence or fighting. Never was but I am just saying hey it does happen and if Mick wanted to bust someones face into the wall over and over this is his take on it. LOL
Ian


08-08-03 02:58 AM
beer I have never been able to listen to this album all the way through. It's terrible. Didn't Lillywhite produce it? He also produced Tattoo You, right? Tattoo You sounds WAY more real. The guitars sound REAL on Slave, T & A, and the rest of Tattoo. probably because its mostly old tracks, i guess. The stones should realize that that is how they're meant to sound: Raw and dirty. not sterile and clean. I swear, the biggest problem with the Stones albums nowadays is they're way overproduced. I really like Voodoo Lounge too, but it's also too damn clean sounding. Don Was?

Where are Glyn and Andy Johns? probably using Pro Tools now too. Just because something is considered modern technology, doesnt mean it's a good thing.
08-08-03 06:43 AM
Diedre It's such a baaad album. It didn't deserve to be put out. It wasn't overproduced because a lot of it was barely produced. Like someone lost interest before finishing it. And the lyrics are bad; not really terrible, but a tad embarrassing. I'm sorry. They're mostly by Keith, from what I've read. And all about what a rotten guy Mick was. No wonder Mick growls them -- he's singing Keith's take on himself, which was not very kind at the time! I also don't blame the guy for not wanting to tour. I don't understand why Keith would; he obviously was in a homicidal rage at that point. Though perhaps it would have been interesting.

I tend to think of "Dirty Work" as the "Mick, You Bastard" album. I'm just glad the pity party came to an end at some point.
08-08-03 11:08 AM
stonedinaustralia dirty work...well somebody had to do it and it had to be the stones to do it...i mean, who else was up to the task

agreed, the title track is the heart

gazza, i must hear the out-takes

and sleep tonight is a message to us all...
08-08-03 12:04 PM
Maxlugar Dirty Work is a cornucopia of slashing guitar work set against a rough- hewed canvas of ill will and bubbled over frustration. Howling vocals provided by Mr. Jagger are in healthy supply and delivered in a lusty and welcomed style. In the summer of 1986, my ears welcomed home these long lost guitars and vicious vocals like an expectant wife greeting her soldier husband home from a long absence over seas.

It was a young Maxy blasting this album at the gas station he worked at after he had closed down for the night, that sticks in his mind the most. I'd close the pumps down, my buddies and my girlfriend would come over with some of her friends and we'd drink beers and smoke Malborough's in the mechanics bay with a huge boom box. You had to be there to hear just how great Had It With You would sound blasted in that big old garage. The snarling, ballsy, ferocious, brutal guitar work increased the amount of Ball Custard in my system one night, that a casual passerby looking in the window could easily be forgiven for mistaking that Exxon station for a car wash! Magical. Dirty Work was like a return to Blue Lagoon to me. That is, if Blue Lagoon was place where rock and roll was a dark, filthy basement were water pipes leak dank, black water and rabid sewer rats scurry about listen to hard driving, neck slashing, face spitting, knuckle dragging, cave man adoring Rock and Roll.

Dirty Work is a little place in time where we can all go back and see just what an ass kicking band the Rolling Stones can be.

I love you, Dirty Work.

Maxy!
08-08-03 12:16 PM
jb Wasn't dangerous smoking at a gas station?
[Edited by jb]
08-08-03 12:26 PM
Joey " It was a young Maxy blasting this album at the gas station he worked at after he had closed down for the night, that sticks in his mind the most. I'd close the pumps down, my buddies and my girlfriend would come over with some of her friends and we'd drink ..............."

Does she still have my socks ?

Kins
08-08-03 12:38 PM
jb Ben Affleck got busted eating some pie!!!
08-08-03 12:39 PM
mac_daddy "Didn't Lillywhite produce it?"

I thought Bob Clearmountain produced Tattoo You. I have the vinyls at home, so I can check this afternoon...
08-08-03 01:27 PM
stonedinaustralia [quote]Maxlugar wrote:
Dirty Work is a cornucopia of slashing guitar work set against a rough- hewed canvas of ill will and bubbled over frustration.

damn straight my dirty working brother ...

but zero hold back is crap,no!!???


and it took rocks off in general and you in particular to show us that (thanks to nasy habits!!)

let's liquidate...

Liquidating...

"let some mutha do the dirty work, find some loser, find som jerk,ronnie"
08-08-03 01:30 PM
Factory Girl jb-yep, Affleck got caught with fingers in the pie jar...lol. I believe that after the Gigli fiasco, he &Jlo will split. Maybe she'll go back to doing rapppers.

Maxy-what song does your dog like to "dance" to???

I also thought Lillywhite produced DW.
08-08-03 02:35 PM
mac_daddy re: Ben Affleck - yea the weird part about this is that he was eating out a stripper. I thought the idea of those places was that you could go in, pay your duckets, and noit have to do any of the work. I just hope he was at Jaguar's, because the women at Crazy Horse Too are pretty grim. BUt the chick has gone on the record, and told her story, and apparently he is caught on camera. Those places have cameras all over the place, so I am not surprised that he got caught...

re: dirty work, etc.

lillywhite did co-produce dirty work...
dirty work info >>

I could have sworn I read somewhere that Mick said Bob Clearmountain was the one who went back and put Tattoo You together, but I cannot find the proof now...
tattoo you info >>
08-08-03 02:46 PM
Gazza >Didn't Lillywhite produce it?"
I thought Bob Clearmountain produced Tattoo You. I have the vinyls at home, so I can check this afternoon...

Dirty Work was produced by Steve Lillywhite and the Glimmer Twins, so hes only 1/3 responsible.

Clearmountain only re-mixed Tattoo You. Its a Glimmer twins production. best sounding Stones album ever though. Clearmountain's a great engineer/mixer. Always does a great job with rhythm sections and the Stones one never sounded better sonically than on "Tattoo You"


08-08-03 02:59 PM
Factory Girl I like Dirty Work...a lot.

Affleck makes my skin crawl. He & skankyLo desrve each other.
08-08-03 03:01 PM
Maxlugar [quote]jb wrote:
Wasn't dangerous smoking at a gas station?


Ok let's go over this again:

1) I turned the pumps off.

then,

2) Partied in the MECHANICS BAY (Inside the garage)!

Why must you ruin my post-Classic Post euphoria?

Friggin' hell.

MACKY!!!
08-08-03 03:56 PM
jb I did not mean to ruin your buzz, I was just surprised at the apparent lack of judgment of smoking in the vicinity of a gas pump. I'm happy nothing happened as they say you shouldn't even talk on a cell phone while pumping your gas.
08-08-03 04:27 PM
throbby Yes, nothing quite like the sound in a mechanic's bay
08-08-03 04:38 PM
stonedinaustralia hot stuff...

can't get enough
08-08-03 04:56 PM
glencar Was Baffleck caught in Matt Damon's pie again? Not even a faked wedding will stop those two horndogs.
08-08-03 09:41 PM
Factory Girl Those two-Ben & Matt are just hoochie-bags. No talent, no looks, just 15 minutes.
08-08-03 10:30 PM
BILL PERKS BOB CLEARMOUNTAIN TURNED DOWN THE OPPURTUNITY TO PRODUCE DIRTY WORK.LILLYWHITE DID THE BEST HE COULD WITH A BAND THAT HATED EACH OTHER,AND A DRUMMER WHO WAS FUCKED UP ON DRUGS.ITS KEITH AND WOODY'S RECORD FOR BETTER OR WORSE,AT A TIME WHEN THEY LIVED THE LIFE OF BOOZE,DRUGS AND ANGST.I STILL LOVE THEM BUT BACK THEN THEY WERE THE BADDEST BOYS AROUND.KEITH AND WOODY STAYIN UP FOR DAYS JAMMIN,BILL FUCKING A 14 YEAR OLD,CHARLIE DOIN HEROIN,AND MICK FUCKING ANYTHING THAT MOVED.AND BACK THEN CHUCK WAS JUST A SIDEMAN.BACK THEN,MICK WAS THE BAD GUY,FOR TURNING ATTENTION TO A SOLO CAREER THAT STILL DOESNT EXIST.
08-08-03 11:44 PM
Nasty Habits You know how it's a lot better if your parents hate the music you listen to?


How great is it that there is an album like Dirty Work out there that is so vile and disgusting even STONES FANS hate it!

"Give that album a purple cigar, Ronnie!"

08-09-03 12:03 AM
stonedinaustralia
quote:
Nasty Habits wrote:


How great is it that there is an album like Dirty Work out there that is so vile and disgusting even STONES FANS hate it!







it's the greatest!
08-09-03 01:45 AM
ianbillen
Chris Kimsey produced Dirty Work.

He also did a number of other late seventies early eighties Stones.
Ian
08-09-03 08:06 PM
ianbillen
quote:
ianbillen wrote:

Chris Kimsey produced Dirty Work.

He also did a number of other late seventies early eighties Stones.
Ian



Sorry,
I Meant Steve LillyWhite in the previous post not
Chris Kimsey. Although the part I spoke of Chris Kimsey producing some early 80's Stones stuff is true. However, it
is Steve Lillywhite that produced Dirty Work.
My Bad here,
Ian
08-10-03 01:16 PM
hotlicks Only british blues record to top the charts?!

Surely 'House of the rising sun' by the Animals qualifies as the first no.1 british blues record. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't know....
08-10-03 01:19 PM
hotlicks little red rooster or house of the rising sun-first uk blues record to reach no 1 in the uk charts?
08-10-03 03:17 PM
Gazza Rooster came out at the end of '64 - Rising sun would have been a few months before it

The Animals version is great but its a rock version of a blues song, just as say the Stones studio version of "I just wanna make love to you" is

The Stones' "little red rooster" is a straight 12-bar blues. Not a commercialised version. thats what I meant. "Red rooster" is still the only actual blues record to top the UK charts

08-10-03 04:01 PM
Maxlugar [quote]jb wrote:
I did not mean to ruin your buzz, I was just surprised at the apparent lack of judgment of smoking in the vicinity of a gas pump. I'm happy nothing happened as they say you shouldn't even talk on a cell phone while pumping your gas.

Teenage Jewish boys would not be familiar with the ways of the gas station. It's not your fault. Jewish mothers raise their boys to feel like prince's and to aim much higher. My abusive catholic upbringing taught me to go work for any scumbag that was willing to hire me. Yup, just work anywhere and gather that all important self esteem and work ethic that would bring me closer to jesus. Thank God for Dirty Work. It was the ultimate escape for me.

It was later, in my early 20's, that I bought a home "Jew-Fro" kit. Soon after I would confuse my parents to the point of them buying me my own BMW and telling the neighbors how good looking and sucessful I was going to be.

YEAH!

Max Lugarfinklebergstein!!
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