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Fiji Joe |
Royals spank the Red Sox...They took last year's series from them, and now they go into Fenway and make the chowda heads cry...It's too bad they're not in the AL Central...We could use a whipping boy
Royals nation!
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gimmekeef |
A Royals Thread?....wow what next...The Nats/Expos?..BTW who is your all time fave Expo?:
Rusty Staub
Coco Laboy
Boots Day
John Boccabella
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Nellcote |
I can think of many who left...
Pedro Martinez
John Wettland
Vlad Guerrio
What about Vance Law? |
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_Boomy_ |
Cliff Floyd
Andres Gallaraga
Randy Johnson
Delino DeSheilds
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sirmoonie |
quote: gimmekeef wrote:
A Royals Thread?....wow what next...The Nats/Expos?..BTW who is your all time fave Expo?:
Rusty Staub
Coco Laboy
Boots Day
John Boccabella
Voting ends in 3 minutes........
Bill "Spaceman" Lee - a white man's Dock Ellis. |
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Fiji Joe |
All-time favorite Expo?...Ron LeFlore...as portrayed by LeVar Burton in the ABC TV movie "One in a Million"
From the Jackson State Penitentiary to the Major Leagues...and apparently, back to the pen
Ronald LeFlore (born June 16, 1948, in Detroit, Michigan) is a former Major League Baseball outfielder. He played six seasons with the Detroit Tigers before being traded to the Montreal Expos, retiring as a Chicago White Sox in 1982. He stole 455 bases in his career, and was an American League All-Star selection in 1976. A movie and book were made about his rise to the major leagues after being an inmate at the Jackson State Penitentiary. One in a Million: The Ron LeFlore Story was a made-for-television movie starring LeVar Burton in 1978.
Early life
Leflore was born in Detroit and was involved in the criminal justice system at an early age. In the book Breakout: From Prison to the Big Leagues Leflore relates growing up in a crime ridden section of Detroit. Although his parents were married, his father was an unemployed alcoholic who rarely took part in family life. His mother was a hard working nurses aide that held the family together financially and physically, even feeding Ron while a heroin addict and small-time drug dealer. He credits his mother’s compassion for his survival during this period. At twelve, he began to have sex with local prostitutes and soon after he was introduced to shooting heroin in a neighbourhood 'shooting gallery'. He dropped out of school and spent many nights breaking into the Stroh's Brewery on Gratiot Avenue, stealing beer and getting drunk with friends. After dropping out of school he played no organized sports and rarely followed the Tigers, although he had been to Tiger Stadium, sitting in the upper bleachers with his father, on one occasion as a kid. First arrested at fifteen, he was ultimately sentenced to 5-15 years in state prison at the State Prison of Southern Michigan, usually called Jackson State Penitentiary, for armed robbery.
Prison discovery
Incarcerated, the first organized baseball league LeFlore played in was for inmates. Billy Martin, the legendary New York Yankee player and manager, then manager of the Detroit Tigers, was lured to Michigan State Prison by another inmate who knew Martin. The unorthodox Martin witnessed LeFlore's speed and strength, something that bloomed after LeFlore had given up drugs and drinking inside prison. Incredibly, Martin helped LeFlore get permission for day-parole and a try out at Tiger Stadium. In the summer of 1973, the convict impressed Tigers' management and the team signed him to contract in July, which enabled him to meet the conditions for parole. Martin, the man who gave LeFlore his break, was fired in August of that same year for telling Tiger pitchers to throw at opposing hitters; he was replaced by Joe Schultz. Ralph Houk was LeFlore's manager subsequently. Originally, LeFlore, a twenty-six year old rookie, was assigned to the Tigers' AA affiliate, but by the end of the 1973 season he was playing for the Triple A Evansville Triplets. The following season he made the Major League club and by 1975 was a starting outfielder.
Playing career
Primarily known as base stealer, LeFlore led the American League with 68 in 1978, but in his prime he also hit for average and moderate power, hammering 16 home runs in 1977. He was a big reason, along with Mark "The Bird" Fidrych, that the Tigers attendance rose in 1976 by close to five thousand more per game than the previous year. Yet the team never finished higher than fourth in the American League East standings and in 1979 LeFlore was traded to the Montreal Expos. In 1980 he came closest to encountering play-off action as he stole a career high 97 bases and the Expos ended the season in second place only a game behind the eventual World Series winner Philadelphia Phillies. After playing two seasons for the Chicago White Sox, he retired in 1982.
After playing career
On September 27, 1999, ceremonies celebrating the final game played at Tiger Stadium brought LeFlore back to Michigan after many years of living in Florida. Before the game, he was notified of an open warrant for his arrest on charges of unpaid child support. The police agreed to let LeFlore participate in the on-field activities and then subsequently arrested him.
The case involved back orders of support for his estranged adult daughter and her mother, who was the person that informed police LeFlore was planning to attend the festivities. He was quickly released from custody after agreeing to comply with the court order.
In 2000, LeFlore was hired as the manager of the now-defunct Cook County Cheetahs of the Frontier League. He also worked as a manager and coach in the Midwest and Northeastern leagues.
In the spring of 2003, LeFlore was hired as manager for the Saskatoon Legends franchise in the fledgling Canadian Baseball League, a league that folded midway through their inaugural season.
On May 5, 2007, during an autograph signing, LeFlore was arrested for failure to pay child support.
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Nellcote |
Oh yeah, another, Andre Dawson.
Towards the Royals taking the Sox in the series, sure, it happens. We are not deterred. Manny & Ortiz are funkified right now. Can or will the Royals make a charge to win the division, or qualify for the wildcard, with such an impressive record over the last month? Time will tell, however, get back to me in October about how this series mattered in the grand scheme of things. I do know the Royals have a special player in Tony Pena, Jr, who was a hit @ Fenway, where, when his father caught for the Sox for several years a decade ago, he hounded anybody to play catch with as a youth. He's got good skills, which, unless the Royals can pony up the cake in a couple of years for him, he too will be gone along the lines of Beltran & Damon.... |
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_Boomy_ |
Let's talk about:
Mookie Blaylock
Tyrone Bogues (aka Muggsy)
Anfernee Hardaway (circa 1995)
Hakeem Olajuwon
Shawn Kemp (circa 1994)
Chris Mullin
Mark Price
Larry Johnson (circa 1993)
Clyde Drexler (fuckin' awesome)
Charles Barkely (Sixers years)
Rik Smits
John Stockton
Rony Seikaly
"Hot Rod" Williams
Drazen Petrovic (RIP)
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_Boomy_ |
quote: _Boomy_ wrote:
Let's talk about:
Mookie Blaylock
Tyrone Bogues (aka Muggsy)
Anfernee Hardaway (circa 1995)
Hakeem Olajuwon
Shawn Kemp (circa 1994)
Chris Mullin
Mark Price
Larry Johnson (circa 1993)
Clyde Drexler (fuckin' awesome)
Charles Barkely (Sixers years)
Rik Smits
John Stockton
Rony Seikaly
"Hot Rod" Williams
Drazen Petrovic (RIP)
Gotta get a lil' bit of the NBA Love in the Baseball Thread.
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gimmekeef |
quote: Nellcote wrote:
Oh yeah, another, Andre Dawson.
Towards the Royals taking the Sox in the series, sure, it happens. We are not deterred. Manny & Ortiz are funkified right now. Can or will the Royals make a charge to win the division, or qualify for the wildcard, with such an impressive record over the last month? Time will tell, however, get back to me in October about how this series mattered in the grand scheme of things. I do know the Royals have a special player in Tony Pena, Jr, who was a hit @ Fenway, where, when his father caught for the Sox for several years a decade ago, he hounded anybody to play catch with as a youth. He's got good skills, which, unless the Royals can pony up the cake in a couple of years for him, he too will be gone along the lines of Beltran & Damon....
Andre The Hawk Dawson....had a cannon of an arm...quite the mid 70's outfield with Dawson/Ellis Valentine/Grissom/Raines et al...Failure to never develop a healthy in house left handed starter cost them several chances to win..imho.... |
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sirmoonie |
quote: _Boomy_ wrote:
Let's talk about:
Mookie Blaylock
Tyrone Bogues (aka Muggsy)
Anfernee Hardaway (circa 1995)
Hakeem Olajuwon
Shawn Kemp (circa 1994)
Chris Mullin
Mark Price
Larry Johnson (circa 1993)
Clyde Drexler (fuckin' awesome)
Charles Barkely (Sixers years)
Rik Smits
John Stockton
Rony Seikaly
"Hot Rod" Williams
Drazen Petrovic (RIP)
Not bad - 5 white guys on that list, 6 if you count Seikaly (Greco-American). We need a ruling on that.
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Starbuck |
quote: We need a ruling on that.
the ruling is that basketball sucks. |
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_Boomy_ |
No it doesn't. I love baseball more than basketball, but get over it, Starnut!
I'll drop a trey in yo' face, keep the hand in the the air whilst I back peddle to the other end of the court to play D and steal that rock from your claws, bitch.
Then you can throw me your best slider, and I'll slam it out of the ballpark.
YEAH!
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Starbuck |
boomie....come on...bring it...i was starting JV in the 10th grade...i was what those in basketball circles call "a power forward with a big ass"....hard to box out, if you get my drift.
NBA players are lazy and overpaid. college and high school hoops are much more exciting. |
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_Boomy_ |
Well, you are a tall guy. You should've been starting!
I love College B-Ball. I do not, however, like the Indiana Hoosiers. Almost everyone around me does, though. |
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Starbuck |
interesting...
did you know that todd helton has a career .332 avg? tops among all active players. strangely enough, he's only got 1800 hits thus far...i thought he was older than that! |
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Starbuck |
boomie...yes, indeed, the hoosiers are gay. |
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_Boomy_ |
quote: Starbuck wrote:
interesting...
did you know that todd helton has a career .332 avg? tops among all active players. strangely enough, he's only got 1800 hits thus far...i thought he was older than that!
The guy has a nice swing. No street cred as he plays in Mile High; they haven't done crap since Vinny Castilla was hitting dingers for them.
Factor in the horrible signings of Mike Hampton and Denny Neagle that still linger, and you got a team in shambles.
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sirmoonie |
Denny McLain
Ken Stabler
Ernie Holmes
Mercury Morris
Damn, I miss Jew lists! |
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Joey |
quote: sirmoonie wrote:
Damn, I miss Jew lists!
Barry Bonds just hit Number # 572
I just 'took ' a Number # 2
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Starbuck |
quote: Barry Bonds just hit Number # 572
I just 'took ' a Number # 2
********** END TRANSMISSION ***************
JJJJJJJJJAZZY !
joey, that is a sexy red X!
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sirmoonie |
quote: Joey wrote:
Barry Bonds just hit Number # 572
You mean 752, Magoo.
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sirmoonie |
And then he hit 753, you fatuous fucking poltroon! |
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Starbuck |
anyone who is pro bonds is clearly a communist. or at the very least, a goddamn capon. bonds probably would have been a HOFer anyway, but his blatant disrespect for the game and his coveting of records and such not and all that jazz are despicable.
his record will get a double ** by it. i hope aaron and selig stay the hell away. |
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sirmoonie |
quote: Starbuck wrote:
anyone who is pro bonds is clearly a communist. or at the very least, a goddamn capon. bonds probably would have been a HOFer anyway, but his blatant disrespect for the game and his coveting of records and such not and all that jazz are despicable.
his record will get a double ** by it. i hope aaron and selig stay the hell away.
Soeone explain it to me - I thought the roids were legal when he was skin popping? And he no longer uses (I assume). So where is the disrespect, especially when about half the league was using. Seriously, I'm curious, as I don't follow baseball very much at all.
Anyway, its still a boat load of home runs - he'll get 800 by the end.
Hey, did you guys know that Aaron was not a unanimous HOF choice? Whoever voted NO should be fucking chicken biffed with a slop bucket. |
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lotsajizz |
Bonds cheated and he's an asshole...hence the controversy moonie.... |
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sirmoonie |
I understand the controversy - I'm trying to figure out fish from the frogs.
Why is it said that he cheated, and if he did, how much did he cheat, relatively speaking? And to what effect? Thats what I'm unclear on. And surfing the net for an answer has proven unavailing. |
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Fiji Joe |
The dude shot horse hormones in his ass...and not just to run faster on Kentucky Derby day either...It's not like he was a marginal player cheating to get a paycheck...from all I've read, his reasons for cheating were purely egotistical and racist...he's a friggin' cod piece |
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Fiji Joe |
How much did he cheat?...not only did he get much bigger, but he started to suck dick too...that's a whole lot of cheating
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lotsajizz |
what Feej said... |
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