| August 19th, 2005 02:53 AM |
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| UGot2Rollme |
THANKS FOR THE REVIEW, GAZZA!!!
I sure hope they play a healthy amount of it on stage! |
| August 19th, 2005 03:35 AM |
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| Jumacfly |
average rating : 7.4/10
good! |
| August 19th, 2005 04:23 AM |
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| ListenToTheLion |
[quote] Stones albums often take a while to grow on me, probably because for 30 years or so I've been too emotionally attached to the band's music to get a proper perspective on the first few listens, but I liked this one right away. [quote]
Interesting and honest review Gazza. What surprises me in most other comments is the enthusiasm without restrictions. And the most crazy thing is those reviewers haven't heard the album yet but only snippets. As you say most of us fans are emotionally too attached to have a proper perspective. After a couple of months, maybe even after a few years, you can tell if an album has made it and won't fade away.
But you made me very curious.
[Edited by ListenToTheLion] |
| August 19th, 2005 04:46 AM |
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| Gazza |
quote:
IanBillen wrote:
And just think.....this album will only get better to you!
it already has! last night - on the official site - was the first time I've had a chance to listen to "it wont take long" and "this place is empty" as they're supposed to sound, and both are better songs than I gave them credit for in my original post.
That review was based on hearing the album mostly in lo-fi quality. So, the real thing will be even better |
| August 19th, 2005 05:23 AM |
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| egon |
i hope so gazza.
i listedned via amazone and the quality is soo poor that non of the songs really grabbed me... |
| August 19th, 2005 05:41 AM |
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| ListenToTheLion |
quote:
egon wrote:
i hope so gazza.
i listedned via amazone and the quality is soo poor that non of the songs really grabbed me...
Stop listening to snippets. It spoils all the fun. What can you say about 30 seconds? |
| August 19th, 2005 05:57 AM |
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| egon |
that it's not ver good? 
i know what you mean. i listended once, but won't do no more
i promise! |
| August 19th, 2005 06:14 AM |
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| Mottrush |
Well done Gazza! An honest and frank review. Simply can't wait. All the snippets and clips I've heard can't really compare to getting the bloody thing home on that first day and turning up the volume on the big system!!!
From my reckoning us Aussies will have quite a few hours advantage on the rest of the world. In store 9.00am 5th September!! That's a few listens before the rest of you!!
Cheers,
Mottrush |
| August 19th, 2005 07:05 AM |
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| Gazza |
quote:
Jumacfly wrote:
average rating : 7.4/10
good!
It averaged as low as that? I'm surprised (I hadnt added it all up)
Realistically, its probably about an '8'. I havent rated the one song I havent heard in full (Dangerous Beauty) and from what I've heard about it, I'm sure it'll be one of my favourites when I check out the whole thing. Plus, like I said earlier, I rated the songs based on the tape I had. Every song that I've subsequently heard in the way its supposed to be listened to I've liked better than I originally did. On the tape I have, I thought "It wont take long" was a really good track. On rs.com's version, its a killer of a song!
For the lesser songs, 6/10 still isnt bad. With rating a Stones record, you're always subconsciously comparing it to what you've heard before. An 'average' Rolling Stones song is still worth listening to and a lot better than most of the shit that passes for music these days. |
| August 19th, 2005 07:07 AM |
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| BlindLemon |
thnx for the review. just got around to reading it. Counting the days. |
| August 19th, 2005 07:27 AM |
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| Ten Thousand Motels |
Where are those posters who said the Stones were all washed up as far as new music goes? Please come forward, bend over and take your punishment. Sure it'll hurt...but it's for your own good.  |
| August 19th, 2005 07:28 AM |
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| justinkurian |
Thanks for the review, Gazza. I think I need to buy a new sound system before Sept. 5th.
And by the way:
"[But A Bigger Bang] is a very basic record, and I hope people like it because it will make us do another one like it." - Charlie Watts, Rolling Stone interview |
| August 19th, 2005 07:31 AM |
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| egon |
quote:
Ten Thousand Motels wrote:
Where are those posters who said the Stones were all washed up as far as new music goes? Please come forward, bend over and take your punishment. Sure it'll hurt...but it's for your own good.
i think jb is on holiday... |
| August 19th, 2005 07:35 AM |
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| Ten Thousand Motels |
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i think jb is on holiday...
Wait a minute. He isn't the only one. |
| August 19th, 2005 08:21 AM |
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| Nasty Habits |
quote:
beer wrote:
Also, how will the tracklist break down on the record? It's a double album, right? I cant imagine the 2nd record opening with "This place is empty".
SIDE 1?
1 Rough Justice
2 Let Me Down Slow
3 It Won’t Take Long
4 Rain Fall Down
Side 2?
5 Streets Of Love
6 Back Of My Hand
7 She Saw Me Coming
8 Biggest Mistake
SIDE 3?
9 This Place Is Empty
10 Oh No, Not You Again
11 Dangerous Beauty
12 Laugh, I Nearly Died
SIDE 4?
13 Sweet Neo Con
14 Look What The Cat Dragged In
15 Driving Too Fast
16 Infamy
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Yeah, beer, I think that's how it will break, which means it's almost a proper double album. None of those damn three song sides to drive me crazy.
I hear what you're saying about the logical side breaks being kind of weird, though. The album seems about one song short for peak vinyl sequencing - Streets of Love should wind out side one so that side two can lead with Back of My Hand and end with This Place Is Empty. That way side three could open w/Oh No and end w/Neocon (the CD sequencing puts Neocon very tight on Laugh, which sounds excellent). And one more song between Look What the Cat Dragged in as a side four opener and Driving Too Fast would have even more fully underlined how much Driving Too Fast, this album's final-mick-blast-before-keef -sums-it-all-up-for-you numba, roars. Too bad they didn't toss in a cover in what could have been the "Stop Breaking Down" slot. Oh well.
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| August 19th, 2005 08:41 AM |
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| stonedinaustralia |
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Too bad they didn't toss in a cover in what could have been the "Stop Breaking Down" slot. Oh well.
without having heard the disc in toto i still agree...pity they didn/t commit "get up stand up " to official release
a cover of some black music always makes a stones release a treasure box
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| August 19th, 2005 08:53 AM |
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| ListenToTheLion |
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Ten Thousand Motels wrote:
Where are those posters who said the Stones were all washed up as far as new music goes? Please come forward, bend over and take your punishment. Sure it'll hurt...but it's for your own good.
I am one of them. But as said before, how to judge an album that isn't in the stores yet? I have only heard 3 songs and a lot of snippets. I'll give you my opinion when I have listened to the entire album. Does that sounds fair to you?
btw: if the album is good it won't hurt but I will be glad and the first to admit that I was wrong (wrong=sceptical).
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| August 19th, 2005 08:54 AM |
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| ListenToTheLion |
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ListenToTheLion wrote:
I am one of them. But as said before, how to judge an album that isn't in the stores yet? I have only heard 3 songs and a lot of snippets. I'll give you my opinion when I have listened to the entire album. Does that sounds fair to you?
btw: if the album is good it won't hurt but I will be glad and the first to admit that I was wrong (wrong=sceptical).
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| August 19th, 2005 09:08 AM |
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| Lazy Bones |
Thanks for the review, Gazza.
Having a little knowledge or history about how you critique Stones albums is a nice basis while reading your review - as you stated with how you dismantled expectations on different levels for different reasons.
I agree, as do you, just because it's the Stones, doesn't mean it's going to be great or require automatic acceptance. Knowing that, then reading this review, brings me greater confidence in this album. Very refreshing.
Thank you!
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| August 19th, 2005 09:17 AM |
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| stonedinaustralia |
quote:
stonedinaustralia wrote:
without having heard the disc in toto i still agree...pity they didn/t commit "get up stand up " to official release
a cover of some black music always makes a stones release a treasure box
fuck amn
that i sso much bullsh
it may still be great |
| August 19th, 2005 09:21 AM |
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| stonedinaustralia |
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stonedinaustralia wrote:
fuck amn
that i sso much bullsh
it may still be great
now i know you're crazy...there are meant to be laws for people like you
GET A FUCKIN' LIFE MAN!!
or buy a pool cue or something
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| August 19th, 2005 10:18 AM |
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| FPM C10 |
After a slow start, my excitement is building more and more everyday. Gazza's review just threw it into overdrive. Thanks mate!
I too made the mistake of listening to the Amazon clips. If you haven't, don't. Just wait for the real thing. |
| August 19th, 2005 10:29 AM |
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| egon |
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FPM C10 wrote:
I too made the mistake of listening to the Amazon clips. If you haven't, don't. Just wait for the real thing.
AMEN! |
| August 19th, 2005 10:34 AM |
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| Monkey Woman |
I'm just listening to IWTL on the RS.com media box, and I'm impressed by the emotional power packed in the delivery (vocals and music). The Stones are *here*, they are alive and kicking ass!  |
| August 19th, 2005 10:37 AM |
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| egon |
if i have to give a review based on amazone.com,
i'd say the album has a "great" metal sound to it! :-) |
| August 19th, 2005 10:56 AM |
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| Monkey Woman |
Have I said that I was thrilled by your review, Gazza?  The more so because it's coming after Uncut's take on the album, plus Voodoo's enthousiastic account -- and now Nasty Habits! It's great to read what knowledgeable, honest fans have to say after listening to the album in its bulk. And I don't think my own ears are deceiving me, either! Gerardo's clips  plus Amazon.com soundbytes and the RS.com media box! There's some outstanding stuff in there. I hope too that they'll feel like using as much of it as possible on stage! |
| August 19th, 2005 11:04 AM |
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| stonedinaustralia |
as you can read the thought of this has turned me so crazy i'm talking to myself
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| August 19th, 2005 12:45 PM |
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| Jair |
Many thanks, Gazza!!!
Loved your review! |
| August 19th, 2005 12:51 PM |
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| Moonisup |
quote:
Ten Thousand Motels wrote:
Where are those posters who said the Stones were all washed up as far as new music goes? Please come forward, bend over and take your punishment. Sure it'll hurt...but it's for your own good.
you hear mine, when I have heard the album. |
| August 19th, 2005 05:13 PM |
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| T&A |
Gazza - got a "methodology" question for you...
You're using a 10-point scale. Your lowest score is a 6. What's the 10 points in relation to? How good a Stones song could be? How good any song could be? Give me an example of a Stones song from the Woody era, say, that would rate a 1 or 2 or 3 or a 4.
Incidentally, if I were using a 10 point schema, I'd rate ONNSOL at 1 (0 if I could go lower).
The way you stack it up, I'm led to believe you think every song on the album is a better than average Stones song - and I can't believe that's your intent. |
