| August 8th, 2004 11:41 AM |
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| exile |
November 2, 2004 U.S. presidential election
I hope you guys in America do the right thing and get rid of that George W Bush.
for waging an unnecessary war to oust Saddam Hussein based on "lies or misinterpretations"
I have nothing against America I think its a great country, its a shame that a lot of the post-9/11 international goodwill has evaporated after the Iraqi war.
The war was wrong. Do the right thing and get rid of him.
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| August 8th, 2004 01:05 PM |
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| chris girard |
Some of us are doing the best we can to get rid of the Bushman. He lied about Iraq and now a bunchof kids are getting shot up for nothing. These terror alerts here are a joke no one pays attention to them. The airport though is a pain in the ass you have to get there rather early and wait for the minimun wage making searchers. They wanted to take my razor away from on the last trip--if you don;t do what I want I'll shave you!!!!!! What bullshit.
I'm for Kerry 100% |
| August 8th, 2004 01:58 PM |
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| Riffhard |
With all due respect exile there are things that you don't know about Kerry. I would not vote for that man with a gun held to my head. He has no backbone and I wouldn't trust that man to guard my car much less my nation. He has consistently voted against supporting the military,the CIA,and other intelligence gathering operations. This is the excact thing that led to 9/11/01. The man is dispised my the vast majority of the military because of the lies he told before congress in 1971.
Saddam had to go and thank God he is gone. How anyone can say that he was "not so bad" knows nothing of the man's history. After 9/11/01 all bets were off. He did not cooperate with the UN because he knew that France,Germany,and Russia had his back. Well over 3,200 dead Americans spoke out loud and clear on that September day. They woke the USA up to the reality of an ideology that is just as evil as Nazi facsism or Stalinist communisim. The rest of Europe can continue to deny that evil men like Saddam would gladly have given WMD's to these Islamic fucks but after watching the towers fall,the Pentagon attacked,and thousands of inoocents murdered I will never vote for a weakkneed limp wristed liberal like John Kerry. He's already promissing the terrorists a "more sensitive war on terror"!?!?!?!?! What the fuck does that mean?! I don't want a more sensitive war on terror. I want these bastards hunted down and killed!
Until your country has gone through the horror of a day like 9/11/01 please don't tell my country how to vote.
Riffhard
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| August 8th, 2004 01:59 PM |
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| The_Worst |
quote:
exile wrote:
November 2, 2004 U.S. presidential election
I hope you guys in America do the right thing and get rid of that George W Bush.
for waging an unnecessary war to oust Saddam Hussein based on "lies or misinterpretations"
I have nothing against America I think its a great country, its a shame that a lot of the post-9/11 international goodwill has evaporated after the Iraqi war.
The war was wrong. Do the right thing and get rid of him.
I will be voting for George W. Bush thank you very much.
[Edited by The_Worst] |
| August 8th, 2004 02:02 PM |
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| The_Worst |
quote:
Riffhard wrote:
With all due respect exile there are things that you don't know about Kerry. I would not vote for that man with a gun held to my head. He has no backbone and I wouldn't trust that man to gaurd my car much less my nation. He has consistently voted against supporting the military,the CIA,and other intelligence gathering operations. This is the excact thing that led to 9/11/01. The man is dispised my the vast majority of the military because of the lies he told before congress in 1971.
Saddam had to go and thank God he is gone. How anyone can say that he was "not so bad" knows nothing of the man's history. After 9/11/01 all bets were off. He did not cooperate with the UN because he knew that France,Germany,and Russia had his back. Well over 3,200 dead Americans spoke out loud and clear on that September day. They woke the USA up to the reality of an ideology that is just as evil as Nazi facsism or Stalinist communisim. The rest of Europe can continue to deny that evil men like Saddam would gladly have given WMD's to these Islamic fucks but after watching the towers fall,the Pentagon attacked,and thousands of inoocents murdered I will never vote for a weakkneed limp wristed liberal like John Kerry. He's already promissing the terrorists a "more sensitive war on terror"!?!?!?!?! What the fuck does that mean?! I don't want a more sensitive war on terror. I want these bastards hunted down and killed!
Until your country has gone through the horror of a day like 9/11/01 please don't tell my country how to vote.
Riffhard
Well said!!! |
| August 8th, 2004 02:14 PM |
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| LadyJane |
I don't ever recall seeing our great country so divided. There is no middle ground here. You either Love Bush or Hate Bush. Same with Kerry...although I think the majority of those supporting him are doing so because of their hatred of Bush.
It's gonna be a very close election...the most important thing I have to say to every American on this Board...VOTE!!!
LJ.
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Voting for Kerry! |
| August 8th, 2004 02:31 PM |
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| Taptrick |
I will vote for my economic freedom in November. Economic freedom is the foundation of all other freedoms. The ability to collect money you have earned and own, the right to only pay taxes to a representative government, the ability to keep a reasonable share of your earned income are the cornerstones of America. Althought the Rolling Stones are one of the most clear examples I have ever seen of a country taxing econonic productivity out of it's own tax pool (taxile on main street), I don't think they have been able to comprehend how their own experience is so relative to almost every other economic and political situation the world has seen before or since. My primary factors in voting will always be issues such as: who is allowing the people who earned their income to keep the majority of their income and who is allowing for most taxing and spending to occur as close to home as possible where it is better monitored and more accountable (non federal)- for it is these things that build ecomic proseprity and the ability to interact in charitable causes at my choosing.
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| August 8th, 2004 03:17 PM |
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| BILL PERKS |
[quote]Riffhard wrote:
With all due respect exile there are things that you don't know about Kerry. I would not vote for that man with a gun held to my head. He has no backbone and I wouldn't trust that man to guard my car much less my nation. He has consistently voted against supporting the military,the CIA,and other intelligence gathering operations. This is the excact thing that led to 9/11/01. The man is dispised my the vast majority of the military because of the lies he told before congress in 1971.
Saddam had to go and thank God he is gone. How anyone can say that he was "not so bad" knows nothing of the man's history. After 9/11/01 all bets were off. He did not cooperate with the UN because he knew that France,Germany,and Russia had his back. Well over 3,200 dead Americans spoke out loud and clear on that September day. They woke the USA up to the reality of an ideology that is just as evil as Nazi facsism or Stalinist communisim. The rest of Europe can continue to deny that evil men like Saddam would gladly have given WMD's to these Islamic fucks but after watching the towers fall,the Pentagon attacked,and thousands of inoocents murdered I will never vote for a weakkneed limp wristed liberal like John Kerry. He's already promissing the terrorists a "more sensitive war on terror"!?!?!?!?! What the fuck does that mean?! I don't want a more sensitive war on terror. I want these bastards hunted down and killed!
Until your country has gone through the horror of a day like 9/11/01 please don't tell my country how to vote.
Riffhard
[Edited by Riffhard]
WRONG AGAIN GENIUS-YOUR BOY'S GOIN DOWN -JEWS FOR KERRY 04!! |
| August 8th, 2004 05:00 PM |
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| Poplar |
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The_Worst wrote:
I will be voting for George W. Bush thank you very much.]
I will be in a flat out sprint to the ballot box on Nov. 2 to vote for George W. Bush, thank you very much. |
| August 8th, 2004 05:20 PM |
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| Jumping Jack |
Why not ask Kerry about the villages he burned down and teh Vietnamese he shot in the back. It is his guilt for these atrocities that fuels his antiwar feelings. War hero my ass!
Given more than 4 months of service in Vietnam he would have even more Purples Hearts and probably blown himself up with a hand grenade like another war hero Max Cleland. |
| August 8th, 2004 06:09 PM |
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| exile |
quote:
Riffhard wrote:
Until your country has gone through the horror of a day like 9/11/01 please don't tell my country how to vote.
Riffhard
Appreciate your point of view Riffhard
I do not know anything about kerry
However my country Australia had Bali attack and a close fried of mine (Australian) died in Iraq working for NBC
for nothing
Im all for fighting terromism, I hate it.
Why dont we start fighting terrorism in a country that ACTUALLY had something to do with Terrorism, 9/11, al qaeda
Like i said i have nothing agaist america I just hate Bush
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| August 8th, 2004 08:22 PM |
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| Happy Motherfucker!! |
I don't really know a lot about Kerry at this point, but I do know about Scrub and he has got to go. His issues on the environment are fucking pathetic to say the least. He has out right lied about the war in Iraq and has got many of our boys killed because of it. They have not found one fucking WMD, so this is a war that should have never happened. I agree that Saddam is a fucking asshole and needs to be gone, but sacrificing all of the countless innocent people that has paid with their life is just not reason enough. Bush has fucking got to go! |
| August 8th, 2004 08:56 PM |
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| JaggaRichards |
my $$$$ on Kerry to win.
But you think things will improve once Bush is gone?
I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'll sell you at cost! |
| August 8th, 2004 11:43 PM |
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| Dan |
Exile, you might want to educate yourself on Kerry before you go making ridiculous comments. He voted for and supported the war in Iraq when it was politically expedient to do so. As a matter of fact, his whole foreign policy plan seems to be just a few degrees difference from Bush. As a matter of fact, the only thing he says he would have done different in Iraq is somehow bring the vaunted French aboard. FYI I dislike Bush as much as I do Kerry and dont really care who wins this one. |
| August 9th, 2004 12:28 AM |
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| BILL PERKS |
NOBODY DISAGREED WITH BUSH'S WAR PLAN UNTIL IT CAME OUT THAT IT WAS BASED ON FALSE INTELLIGENCE INFORMATION.1,000 AMERICAN KIDS HAVE DIED BECAUSE PRESIDENT BUSH WAS ILL EQUIPPED TO HANDLE HIS JOB.WHETHER IT WAS HIS ADVISORS TO BLAME OR BUSH'S MALFEASANCE IT STANDS THERE AS HIS RECORD.I'D HOLD ANYONE TO THE SAME STANDARD.HE'S GOT THE BLOOD OF AMERICAN KIDS ON HIS HANDS,AND HE DOES'NT SEEM TO UNDERSTAND THAT FACT. |
| August 9th, 2004 01:17 AM |
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| glencar |
Don't bet the rent on Kerry winning. I agree with some of the criticisms of President Bush but I don't see why replacing him with Kerry will do diddley squat. I'll go with the one who stands up for America. And if foreigners don't like it, that's too bad. |
| August 9th, 2004 02:16 AM |
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| Bloozehound |
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glencar wrote:
but I don't see why replacing him with Kerry will do diddley squat. I'll go with the one who stands up for America. And if foreigners don't like it, that's too bad.
goddamned right |
| August 9th, 2004 03:38 AM |
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| exile |
I never said vote for Kerry
I dont know anything about the guy except
http://home.comcast.net/~fjelstad/thisland.swf
vote for ANYONE but Bush
Saddam probably was an asshole with his human mincing machines and his 70s heavy metal album cover murals.
I agree .... but at least he kept a lid on the joint.
now Iraq is like a giant hornets nest thats gone crazy.
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| August 9th, 2004 10:10 AM |
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| jb |
I am a long standing liberal, and yet, feel very conflicted about the election...I disapprove of many of Bush's policies, but his steadfast support for America's security and the Jewish state, in the face of anti/American/anti/Semetic European Nations and the homiciadal terrorist Arabs/Muslims, earms my respect. This will be a tought decesion and I may very well base my vote on whether Kerry steps up his support for Israel....We, freedom loving , god fearing people, must kill the terrorists before they kill us....they must be hunted down, smoked out of their caves, and killed in the most brutal fashion available in order to teach them a lesson...They should be lined up i n rows of ten and be beheaded by an industrial cutting machine and thereafter, their bodies should be thrown into one of those machines that shread trees/branches ....this should be shown on Al-Jazeera and all major networks. This is just my opinion, and not that of most Americans,
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| August 9th, 2004 10:59 AM |
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| telecaster |
exile make sure to vote to re-elect John Howard for another term next year
Howard, like Bush, has a set of balls the size of the outback and says what he means and means what he says
Though true that 10 out of 10 terrorists worldwide and 10 out of 10 liberals in the US want Bush gone, he will be re-elected by a nice margin and the world and Australia will be safer for it
One Bush, one dick. All we need |
| August 9th, 2004 11:12 AM |
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| Jumping Jack |
JB,
Kerry will do what makes the France & the euros happy, not Isreal. He has promised a more sensitive fight on terrorism which means he is a girlie man with no balls or backbone. Kerry will service Chirac like Monica serviced Clinton! He will be a bigger wuss than Jimmy Carter. |
| August 9th, 2004 11:18 AM |
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| jb |
quote:
Jumping Jack wrote:
JB,
Kerry will do what makes the France & the euros happy, not Isreal. He has promised a more sensitive fight on terrorism which means he is a girlie man with no balls or backbone. Kerry will service Chirac like Monica serviced Clinton! He will be a bigger wuss than Jimmy Carter.
 -Bush must give the go ahead to take out the Iranian nukes...no airforce in thw world, including ours, is better than ....we must bomb the Iranians back into the "Stone" age....then, we must unilatreally lauch a massive nuclear attack on N. Korea and rid world of this evil man...only the U.S. and Israel have the courage to save the world from these vile Nations.. |
| August 9th, 2004 11:25 AM |
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| telecaster |
jb for Prez!
jb what is your position on the missionary position? |
| August 9th, 2004 11:55 AM |
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| Ten Thousand Motels |
There's alot more candidates with a lot more brains and alot less baggage out there running for president than these two hell bound con artists.
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| August 9th, 2004 12:06 PM |
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| jb |
quote:
Ten Thousand Motels wrote:
There's alot more candidates with a lot more brains and alot less baggage out there running for president than these two hell bound con artists.
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I may very well abstain as I am not in the mood for Jury duty!!!! |
| August 9th, 2004 12:43 PM |
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| gypsy |
There you are, jb. Why are you hiding from me? |
| August 9th, 2004 02:05 PM |
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| Joey |
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It's gonna be a very close election...
Must disagree here My Stonesian Queen -- look for one or the other to pull away the last week before the election ( See 1980 : Carter vs. Reagan ) .
See Joey ......................
Feel Joey .....................
Touch Joey ....................
Hug Me .
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| August 9th, 2004 02:30 PM |
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| Ten Thousand Motels |
[Edited by Ten Thousand Motels] |
| August 9th, 2004 02:31 PM |
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| Joey |
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Jumping Jack wrote:
Why not ask Kerry about the villages he burned down and teh Vietnamese he shot in the back. It is his guilt for these atrocities that fuels his antiwar feelings. War hero my ass!
Ho Chi Minh was very very cunning -- He hid his army amongst the peasants in South Vietnam and used the Women and Children as " shields " against the American Imperialists .....it is EXACTLY what I would have done if I had been in HIS shoes .
There was no way to keep the NVA off of the South ( The enemy could sneak through the other countries and end-run us all over the place ) . The only way we could have won the Vietnam War was if the United States used Nuclear Weapons against the North -- That being said , the Soviet Union NEVER would have stood still for such actions and would have been " forced " to retaliate against us by nuking South Vietnam .
What a " Cluster - Fu## !!!! "
LBJOEY ! |
| August 9th, 2004 03:35 PM |
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| SeerSuckersuit |
Monsieur John Kerry: French fried
Diana West
August 9, 2004
Whenever John Kerry rips the Bush administration for "going it alone" in Iraq -- which he does with near-digital regularity -- I cringe. What must our friends around the world think of such Beacon Hill provincialism? Surely, the man's open disdain for allied forces in Iraq, great and small, conveys an alienating lack of diplomatic politesse. In Kerry's insistence that the commitment of our allies -- British, Italian, Polish, Ukrainian, Dutch, Australian, Romanian, Bulgarian, Japanese, Thai, Danish and others -- adds up to a big fat zero in a "unilateral" American adventure, he has shown himself bereft of all diplomatic smarts. Talk about Ugly American. Only this one speaks perfect French.
That explains a lot. That is, while the assistance of 30-odd countries in newly sovereign Iraq isn't exactly chopped liver, the real problem, when it comes to John Kerry, is that it isn't foie gras. In other words, when Kerry castigates President Bush for acting "solo" in Iraq, what he's really crabbing about is that the United States is acting without France. For Kerry and his Francophile set, acting sans France is a major problem, a veritable crisis. Since he is one of two men who may occupy the White House next year, his crisis is our concern.
First of all, Americans need to ponder what sort of American leader, to borrow a phrase from former Ambassador Jeane Kirkpatrick, always blames America first -- and, in recent times, always blames France last. This is the brave, new philosophical reflex that gives impetus to the Kerry doctrine. In Kerry's world, George W. Bush (in concert with Great Britain's Tony Blair) was all wrong to deviate from the policies of La France regarding Saddam Hussein. After veto-empowered France withheld Security Council approval for U.S.-led military action in Iraq, Bush was all wrong again to defy France, enforce umpteen U.N. Security Council resolutions, and actually liberate Iraq -- thus, according to Kerry, "alienating" our "traditional allies" (Traditional as in Germany? China? Russia?)
But why the Francophilia in the first place? It's true Kerry has French relatives. His first cousin, Brice Lalonde, is not only mayor of the Brittany resort where Kerry summered as a boy, but is also a onetime Green Party candidate for president (of France), and a former socialist environmental minister.
Far from a matter of divided loyalty, however, Kerry's attitudes stem from a shared sensibility. Scholar Victor Davis Hanson recently suggested that to square Europe's anti-American rhetoric with its embrace of Valley Girl culture we should regard Western Europeans as "elite Americans." He writes: "Their upscale leisured culture is not much different from Malibu, Austin and Dupont Circle that likewise excuse their crass submission to popular American tastes through the de rigeur slurs about the 'corporations,' 'Bush-Cheney,' and 'Halliburton.'" And, I would add, vice versa. The key to elite Americans, a la John Kerry Democrats, lies in understanding Western Europeans -- probably best exemplified by the French.
It's extraordinary to behold the hatred for George W. Bush that unifies this Malibu-Austin-Paris axis. Typical is the sentiment of Sen. Ted Kennedy, who, speaking before the Democratic convention, twisted FDR's inspirational words of the Depression into: "All we have to fear is four more years of George Bush." This thrilled, no doubt, Western Europe's blue state-style salons.
Why? The answer is startling, one John Kerry himself is unlikely to grasp. About 30 years ago, historian Bat Ye'or tells us, France initiated a sweeping set of political, cultural and immigration policies designed to align Europe with the Muslim Arab world. This would form what she calls "Eurabia" -- the title of her upcoming book. This alignment "would endow Europe -- and especially France, the project's prime mover -- with a weight and a prestige to rival that of the United States." After 9/11, France has certainly thrown that weight around, blocking, when possible, President Bush's visionary efforts to remake the Middle East even as he fights global jihad. In Bat Ye'or's analysis, France-led Europe denies the reality of global jihad, much of which, after 30 years of Muslim immigration, occupies a European battleground.
In this European state of denial -- not altogether dissimilar, I'd say, to Democrats' dismissive attitudes toward global jihad -- the real menace in the world comes from Bush-led America, along with anyone-led Israel. "What must be understood," Bat Ye'or writes, "is that American and Israeli policies of resistance to jihadist terror provoke reprisals against a Europe that has long ago ceased to defend itself. So that peace can prevail throughout the world, those two countries, America and Israel, need only adopt the European strategy of constant surrender, based on the denial of aggression."
Denial of aggression? Constant surrender? Let's hope so goes France, so goes the nation -- not. |
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