| 16th August 2006 12:01 PM |
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| Zulu Fun Mix |
Here's the best excerpt from Chuck's most recent post:
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Inadvertently acknowledging the public¡¦s growing skepticism about terror scares organized by the Bush administration, CNN reporters recurrently referred to this new terror scenario as ¡§the real deal.¡¨
O¡¦Brien couldn¡¦t help herself over the course of the morning: ¡§A source close to the investigation says this is the real deal,¡¨ ¡§People close to the investigation say this is the real deal,¡¨ ¡§A source close to the investigation says, ¡¥this is the real deal.¡¦¡¨
Nor could her co-anchor, Harris, who first asked a CNN reporter: ¡§You travel all over the world, does this feel like the real deal to you?¡¨ and then assumed ownership of the phrase himself, ¡§And a source close to the investigation says this is the real deal.¡¨
CNN correspondent John King also got in on the act, ¡§This senior administration official moments ago saying that this is very much the real deal, in his view.¡¨ Jeanne Meserve, CNN homeland security correspondent, carried the torch throughout the morning and afternoon, repeating the phrase on several different CNN programs: ¡§Just talked to a US government official, who, when I asked about the seriousness of this threat, called it the real deal,¡¨ ¡§According to one official I talked to, this was, quote, ¡¥the real deal,¡¦¡¨ ¡§A US official telling me this morning this was the real deal in his opinion¡¨ and ¡§Officials call this the real deal.¡¨
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It's healthy that people are finally starting to see the Republican "authorities" as a gang of unscrupulous liars.
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| 16th August 2006 12:09 PM |
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| Zulu Fun Mix |
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not bound to please wrote:
Notice howe Feej posts pics of fat women and dogs when he refers to me - but posts a pic of a hot guy in Hilfiger undies when he refers to moonie?
Paging Dr. Freud...
Not too surprising since scientists have recently discovered that most Republican yahoo blowhards are female-fearing gravitas-less lightweights with shockingly gay tendencies. Just like Dominican Rush!!
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| 16th August 2006 12:09 PM |
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| sirmoonie |
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not bound to please wrote:
Notice howe Feej posts pics of fat women and dogs when he refers to me - but posts a pic of a hot guy in Hilfiger undies when he refers to moonie?
Paging Dr. Freud...
This is a distubring trend. Its being discussed in the backchannel extensively. It may mar what otherwise has been a decent posting career. Yes, Fiji is now an asterix "*" - see, e.g., Pete Rose (puncey). |
| 16th August 2006 12:48 PM |
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Zulu Fun Mix wrote:
Here's the best excerpt from Chuck's most recent post:
Inadvertently acknowledging the public¡¦s growing skepticism about terror scares organized by the Bush administration, CNN reporters recurrently referred to this new terror scenario as ¡§the real deal.¡¨
O¡¦Brien couldn¡¦t help herself over the course of the morning: ¡§A source close to the investigation says this is the real deal,¡¨ ¡§People close to the investigation say this is the real deal,¡¨ ¡§A source close to the investigation says, ¡¥this is the real deal.¡¦¡¨
Nor could her co-anchor, Harris, who first asked a CNN reporter: ¡§You travel all over the world, does this feel like the real deal to you?¡¨ and then assumed ownership of the phrase himself, ¡§And a source close to the investigation says this is the real deal.¡¨
CNN correspondent John King also got in on the act, ¡§This senior administration official moments ago saying that this is very much the real deal, in his view.¡¨ Jeanne Meserve, CNN homeland security correspondent, carried the torch throughout the morning and afternoon, repeating the phrase on several different CNN programs: ¡§Just talked to a US government official, who, when I asked about the seriousness of this threat, called it the real deal,¡¨ ¡§According to one official I talked to, this was, quote, ¡¥the real deal,¡¦¡¨ ¡§A US official telling me this morning this was the real deal in his opinion¡¨ and ¡§Officials call this the real deal.¡¨
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It's healthy that people are finally starting to see the Republican "authorities" as a gang of unscrupulous liars.
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Man are you dense. Sure, the Pakistani, British & United States governments conspired to make this up to make Bush look good.
Goatboy do you have a mirror in your trailer? Go to it. Look in it and ask yourself why the country rejects left wing loonies like yourself every single time, election after election decade after decade
Zula, Hezzbeloah, Howard Dean, Al Queda, Harry Reid, Bin Laden, etal would rather have 10 747's at the bottom of the Atlantic and the world economy entirely shut down than acknowledge that the US, British and Pakistani governments worked together and stopped a terror attack that would have been worse than 9/11
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| 16th August 2006 01:56 PM |
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| Zulu Fun Mix |
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telecaster wrote:
Goatboy do you have a mirror in your trailer? Go to it. Look in it and ask yourself why the country rejects left wing loonies like yourself every single time, election after election decade after decade
Um, because it's full of naive, mindless, Bible-thumping, Hollywoodized, CNNified, right-wing know-nothings and xenophobes like you?
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| 16th August 2006 02:01 PM |
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| pdog |
Zulu, are you a Stones fan? |
| 16th August 2006 02:03 PM |
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| Lil Raging Goat |
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Zulu Fun Mix wrote:
Um, because it's full of naive, mindless, Bible-thumping, Hollywoodized, CNNified, right-wing know-nothings and xenophobes like you?
Skaaak. u got teets likes a natianal geographik zenterfold. Dat why u call uself zulu. u snatch so dry u gots to spray its wit wd-40 to keeps its from squeakin
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| 16th August 2006 02:08 PM |
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| Brainbell Jangler |
Notorious "left wing loony" George Will commented in a column that the recent British counter-terrorism success was the result of the sort of law enforcement approach to the problem which John Kerry emphasized in 2004, and for which Kerry was excoriated by the right-wing attack machine. Of course, here again Bush-Cheney benefits from the complete lack of memory or attention span on the part of its supporters. |
| 16th August 2006 02:10 PM |
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| glencar |
George Will has been very hard on the Bushies. Not sure what got his goat... |
| 16th August 2006 02:10 PM |
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Zulu Fun Mix wrote:
Um, because it's full of naive, mindless, Bible-thumping, Hollywoodized, CNNified, right-wing know-nothings and xenophobes like you?
The British and Pakastani governments and intel agencies are full of Bible thumping Hollyoodized, CNNified, right wing know nothings and xenophobes?
Since when?
Don't you get sick and tired of losing all the time?
You must burn up tons of your lifespan with all that hatred
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| 16th August 2006 02:13 PM |
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| Brainbell Jangler |
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George Will has been very hard on the Bushies. Not sure what got his goat...
That's easy. For all his doctrinaire conservatism, George Will is both intelligent and principled. That puts him fundamentally at odds with the Bush regime. |
| 16th August 2006 02:16 PM |
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Brainbell Jangler wrote:
Notorious "left wing loony" George Will commented in a column that the recent British counter-terrorism success was the result of the sort of law enforcement approach to the problem which John Kerry emphasized in 2004, and for which Kerry was excoriated by the right-wing attack machine. Of course, here again Bush-Cheney benefits from the complete lack of memory or attention span on the part of its supporters.
Total bullshit. Kerry would have never allowed any intel agency to look at a terrorists email or listen to their phone calls. Bush does and the plot was stopped
Kerry wanted to sue the terrorist AFTER an attack
Law enforcement? The leader of this plot is already wanted for murder in England. But guess what? He fled. That law enforcement worked real well there didn't it?
You libs can airdrop all the subpeona's you want on Al Queda and Hezzbolah. Odds are they won't respond
Law enforcement. That is really funny
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| 16th August 2006 02:18 PM |
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Brainbell Jangler wrote:
That's easy. For all his doctrinaire conservatism, George Will is both intelligent and principled. That puts him fundamentally at odds with the Bush regime.
Good point. Bush is so unintelligent that you libs couldn't beat him twice for Governor and twice for President
Real dumb that Bush |
| 16th August 2006 02:19 PM |
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| lotsajizz |
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Law enforcement. That is really funny
Almost as funny as "W" swearing on a bible to uphold the Law.
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| 16th August 2006 02:22 PM |
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Almost as funny as "W" swearing on a bible to uphold the Law.
Really? When didn't Bush uphold the law?
You claim to be a lawyer. Show us the cases where Bush has been ruled against in not upholding the law |
| 16th August 2006 02:23 PM |
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| pdog |
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telecaster wrote:
Total bullshit. Kerry would have never allowed any intel agency to look at a terrorists email or listen to their phone calls. Bush does and the plot was stopped
US Intel Agencies weren't directly involved in this, and it had nothing to do with our domestic spying, how does this statement apply here.
The main reason this plot was stopped, was b/c somebody snitched, and it wasn't someone in custody being interrogated.
All this fingerpointing and you suck we're better bullshit, is the real bullshit.
We got lucky! Which is more valuable than anything else. And the fact that we're prepared for these oppurtunities is what will save lives, and that is bi-partisan, no ones attacks! |
| 16th August 2006 02:26 PM |
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| Chuck |
August 16, 2006
Lieberman the Enabler
A Connecticut Donkey in King George's Court
By NIRANJAN RAMAKRISHNAN
http://www.counterpunch.org/ramakrishnan08162006.html
The first three letters just happen to be, L-I-E., L-I-E.
(with apologies to Rodgers and Hammerstein, The Sound of Music)
But what's in a name? It is the actions that count. And here, perhaps the biggest greatest contribution to legitimizing the depredations of the Bush administration has come from the actions what can be euphamistically called, an 'enabling' legislator.
I first noticed the strange behavior of Joseph I. Lieberman shortly after the 2000 election. Those were difficult days (you have to remember, we had higher standards then). It was bad enough that Gore and Lieberman went quietly into the night after so blatant a travesty as the Rehnquist court judgement. While Gore may not have had Obrador's gumption, it was clear that he was at least capable of inner outrage.
Lieberman, on the other hand, clearly appeared relieved that he could now go back to full-time faux bipartisanship. Instead of being a stringent opposition politician watching every false move of the ruling party, he was happy to promote a phony 'let us all get along'. Such an attitude, always dubious in an opposition, turned disastrous for the country when a criminal and inept administration was at the helm.
The stentorious statesman who pilloried Ralph Nader in 2000 for bolting the party and standing as an independent, announced during the primary campaign he would consider precisely such a move himself. He kept this pledge, announcing after his loss last evening, turning a concession speech into a launching pad for his campaign as independent, although he kept saying that he would continue to be a Democrat. How? By opposing the Democratic nominee? While Lamont in his victory speech praised Lieberman, the Senator spewed bile on the upstart who had beaten him. Talk of the politics of division!
But doublespeak comes naturally to this self-professed moralist. Michael Kinsley wrote long ago that when he was hosting his TV show, the two politicians who were always available to appear, day or night, weekday or weekend, were Joseph Lieberman and John McCain, the very same enablers who gave so many of Bush's egregious initiatives the stamp of moral authenticity, or at least, temporary cover. I cannot erase from my memory how assiduously Lieberman helped McCain pilot the Iraq War resolution through the Senate, and how Lieberman went after Howard Dean when Dean said Saddam Hussain's capture had not made America any safer (see Duryodhana Dies). No wonder the Bush administration made full use of Lieberman's crucial votes, portraying him as a reasonable and bipartisan politician who cared for the country in this time of war. Rather ironic, coming from a crew that itself didn't care about the country, and saw the war only as an opportunity to curtail rights and help its friends.
Bill Clinton, knowing Lieberman's intentions, still came out to campaign for him. How glorious that it helped not at all, exploding the myth that people will be fooled into excusing enablers, and their enablers. So did Chris Dodd and Barbara Boxer, both of whom had voted against the war. The Senate protects its own.
A week before the primary, facing a 13 point gap in the polls, the man of principle attempted to shed his record with a vigor that surprised even his admirers, all the while claiming to stand firm on principle. "I not only respect your right to disagree or question the president or anyone else -- including me -- I value your right to disagree".
How magnanimous! One wishes Lieberman had valued as much his right to disagree with Bush. We are not talking about any old administration here, but the most brazen and incompetent one in memory. But Lieberman had no problem voting with the Bush team for Gonzales, Rice, CAFTA, the Patriot Act, Roberts, Alito, on the recent war resolutions (the original and the watered down versions) on withdrawing troops ...
Lamont may have any number of flaws, but his courage in taking on this so-called icon of the Democratic party (a true representative for a party under whose Senate leadership the war resolution was passed), challenged him on the War and laid him low, assures him a place in the history of our times.
Congrats and thanks, Ned Lamont, for your wake up call to the Democratic Party, and for causing more sleepless nights for all those other minor and major Liebermans among the political elite.
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| 16th August 2006 02:28 PM |
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| glencar |
Good Lord, take that shit elsewhere... |
| 16th August 2006 02:30 PM |
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pdog wrote:
US Intel Agencies weren't directly involved in this, and it had nothing to do with our domestic spying, how does this statement apply here.
The main reason this plot was stopped, was b/c somebody snitched, and it wasn't someone in custody being interrogated.
All this fingerpointing and you suck we're better bullshit, is the real bullshit.
We got lucky! Which is more valuable than anything else. And the fact that we're prepared for these oppurtunities is what will save lives, and that is bi-partisan, no ones attacks!
The US intel sure were involved in this from the get go and passed the info to the Brits to handle as it was out of Britain
We didn't get lucky, we got smart and we are getting tough |
| 16th August 2006 02:31 PM |
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| glencar |
The Pakistanis helped out too. We must remember that there are some good Islamists. |
| 16th August 2006 02:33 PM |
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glencar wrote:
The Pakistanis helped out too. We must remember that there are some good Islamists.
They sure did. But don't tell Zulu, he thinks they are part of the conspiricy to make Bush look good |
| 16th August 2006 02:33 PM |
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| glencar |
Zulu a crazy fucker. |
| 16th August 2006 02:40 PM |
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| Brainbell Jangler |
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Law enforcement. That is really funny
From what I heard, the Brits arrested the terrorists; they didn't drop bombs on them. Sound like a law enforcement approach to me. Is George Will really that laughable to you Bushies now? |
| 16th August 2006 02:44 PM |
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Brainbell Jangler wrote:
From what I heard, the Brits arrested the terrorists; they didn't drop bombs on them. Sound like a law enforcement approach to me. Is George Will really that laughable to you Bushies now?
Simple. Kerry only wanted to use law enforcement. Bush uses all assets available
Someday libs and the lefties will realize we are in a war |
| 16th August 2006 02:46 PM |
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| Brainbell Jangler |
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telecaster wrote:
Simple. Kerry only wanted to use law enforcement. Bush uses all assets available
Someday libs and the lefties will realize we are in a war
Someone's simple all right. Kerry never said he only wanted to use law enforcement; George Will seems to understand that, even if you don't, telly. Light up another strawman. |
| 16th August 2006 02:46 PM |
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| Zulu Fun Mix |
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They sure did. But don't tell Zulu, he thinks they are part of the conspiricy to make Bush look good
Telecaster, you're an idiot. The point is not that this time there wasn't some plot discovered. The point is that the Bush-bozos have lied and distorted and fabricated so many times now that even run-of-the-mill CNN viewers suspect them of lying. And it's healthy that the scales are starting to fall from people's eyes--except for the 30% of the population like you and Fiji who think the Earth was created 5,000 years ago and that Bush is brilliant and the US can do no wrong.
Sometimes I think some fag has taken a knife and stirred it around in your brain. You think like donkey on dope walking in a maze.
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| 16th August 2006 02:48 PM |
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| Zulu Fun Mix |
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Zulu a crazy fucker.
YES!!
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| 16th August 2006 02:53 PM |
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Zulu, are you a Stones fan?
Are YOU? Because I certainly can't find in their lyrics all the neoconistic rightwingery that the dullards on this board you suck up to constantly trumpet. The thought of Keith Richards even sitting in the same room as Bush, or Cheney, or Rumsfeld, or any other neocunt hero makes me laugh. KR would puke right into their faces.
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| 16th August 2006 02:53 PM |
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this thread's days are numbered. we're talking total and complete deletion. wiped from the pages of history. like it never happened.
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| 16th August 2006 02:53 PM |
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| telecaster |
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Brainbell Jangler wrote:
Someone's simple all right. Kerry never said he only wanted to use law enforcement; George Will seems to understand that, even if you don't, telly. Light up another strawman.
Sure he did. He also called terrorism a "nuisance"
That is why the weenie lost
George Will? Since when is George Will responsible for policy? Who gives a rats ass what he says, he is a columnist for a newspaper |
